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I doubt Cersei lives through the end of the show. I'm not expecting a cliche happy end with everyone married and playing with their babies 5 years later, but I don't think they'd be that inventive.

One thing they kind of adhered to in the show, at least in the first few seasons, was a philosophy GRRM mentioned in an interview. I'm paraphrasing but.....wars are costly, often the better equipped army with more resources at their disposal wins, and sometimes the bad guys are smarter and the good guys lose. Honestly I don't think it would do the entire series justice if it's a sappy end where most of the remaining characters live through the final two episodes. But I'd guess at the end some form of "the good guys" will have won. If they do it shouldn't be a mostly painless win is all I'm saying.
 
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drvenner said:
Could be. That would tick a lot of people off in that how in the world would they know how or have time to make it. I would be disappointed if that is the case because it would be another leap in logic.
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One that should have been made prior to the battle with the NK, since he took out one dragon with a spear throw.

We know that dragons wore armor in previous generations. It's been discussed in the past.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I doubt Cersei lives through the end of the show. I'm not expecting a cliche happy end with everyone married and playing with their babies 5 years later, but I don't think they'd be that inventive.

One thing they kind of adhered to in the show, at least in the first few seasons, was a philosophy GRRM mentioned in an interview. I'm paraphrasing but.....wars are costly, often the better equipped army with more resources at their disposal wins, and sometimes the bad guys are smarter and the good guys lose. Honestly I don't think it would do the entire series justice if it's a sappy end where most of the remaining characters live through the final two episodes. But I'd guess at the end some form of "the good guys" will have won. If they do it shouldn't be a mostly painless win is all I'm saying.
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But hasn't it already been horrifically painful for most if not all of the "good guys."
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
One that should have been made prior to the battle with the NK, since he took out one dragon with a spear throw.

We know that dragons wore armor in previous generations. It's been discussed in the past.
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I said this to my wife after last episode. It makes sense and they haven't been sticking to realistic time frames for a while.
 
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drvenner said:
But hasn't it already been horrifically painful for most if not all of the "good guys."
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The journey from the beginning of the series? Absolutely. It has for the bad guys too. I just mean in the upcoming 2 episodes if they really do large scale battle with Cersei's armies.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I said this to my wife after last episode. It makes sense and they haven't been sticking to realistic time frames for a while.
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Something GoT has done...honestly for awhile is essentially toss out explaining transitions or time frames.

For example Bronn being told to go kill the Lannister brothers. If that happened when we "think" it did then his journey to get up there was ridiculously fast. But it more than likely happened the moment Cersei realize Jaime had headed to Winterfell to aid Dany.

So in a sense Bronn was at best a week or two behind Jaime. Probably arrived with a few days of the battle with the NK.
 
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I think Dany may die. But not before Cersei. I believe Cersie defeats Dany and her army initially and captures Jon to hold him prisoner so she can keep the North in check. This brings Sansa and all her secret scheming with various houses to kings landing with an army that joins up with Dorne and the Greyjoys to defeat Cersei and free Jon. Jon doesnt want the throne but is thrust into it anyway. Poetic justice to have the one guy in westeros who doesnt want to play the game end up winning.
 
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jcvols24 said:
I think Dany may die. But not before Cersei. I believe Cersie defeats Dany and her army initially and captures Jon to hold him prisoner so she can keep the North in check. This brings Sansa and all her secret scheming with various houses to kings landing with an army that joins up with Dorne and the Greyjoys to defeat Cersei and free Jon. Jon doesnt want the throne but is thrust into it anyway. Poetic justice to have the one guy in westeros who doesnt want to play the game end up winning.
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Dr. Strange with the assist to get Sansa & her gang of misfits down there to help?
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Dr. Strange with the assist to get Sansa & her gang of misfits down there to help?
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Jon left winterfell for Kings landing last episode and will be there next episode so Dr Strange can stay in MCU for the time being. Sansa has probably been using the back channels to prepare for any situation so it is doable. Now if Cersei ends up winning it all maybe Strange can bring Thanos to westeros and let him snap his fingers to his heart's content.
 
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Sansa isn't going south. She has made it clear she has no intention of leaving Winterfell again.


What if Jon dies fighting Cersei, Dany wins and then Sansa won't bend the knee so she (Dany) heads north to force it by Arya takes her out. Leaving Gendry with the throne?!?!
 
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jcvols24 said:
This brings Sansa and all her secret scheming with various houses to kings landing with an army that joins up with Dorne and the Greyjoys to defeat Cersei and free Jon.
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What I wonder about is the impromptu Stark Family Council where Jon reveals his secret. They cut away before the actual reveal by Bran. It could be that quite a bit of planning could have happened at that meeting, especially if Bran is used to provide intel on the current setup in King’s Landing.

After that we get Arya heading down to Kings Landing, presumably to finish her list. What if instead she is heading down to carry out her role in the Sansa Strategy?

Arya did mention that Sansa is the smartest person she knows.

More than once the Stark women have felt neglected when it comes to ‘military’ planning and perhaps Jon is ready to trust Sansa’s Plan now.
 
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I also was wondering that...my thought is Sansa may head to the Iron Islands. Could Arya be heading to Dorne?

Is there anything Bran would know from the history the show has shown us that he could use to help assist with King's Landing though?

Not sure there's any of the wildfire left, pretty sure Cersei used all of it to take out the Sparrow.

I seriously doubt we don't see a return of Asha Greyjoy to avenge Euron murdering her father.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I don't know if "Sloppy" is the word I would use. I just think they are all about subverting expectations ala Rian Johnson at this point...and all they are doing is pissing everybody off to varying degrees.
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If Rian Johnson was involved, we would have had cattle being freed and stampeding through the streets of King's Landing or something stupid by now.

Thank God he is NOT involved.
 
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drvenner said:
But hasn't it already been horrifically painful for most if not all of the "good guys."
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Hasn't it also been tremendously unfair? I mean, the "good guys" could have easily wiped out the Lannister army and the Greyjoy fleet when they had 3 dragons plus the Unsullied and Dothraki at full capacity.

Also, this season has dedicated precious little time to Cersei and Euron... They have been treated like an insignificant back story. I think that is pretty telling about how episode 5 is going to go down. It would be strange for them to end up "winning" considering how little the writers have cared about them up until this point in the season. The writers are not invested in those characters anymore.
 
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VolNExile said:
Even in the real Middle Ages, life was horrifically painful for most people.
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I understand this very well. My point was that some people want to see more deaths because, in their opinion, that makes it closer to real life. I read and go to movies to escape from my reality, sometimes. Not that mine is bad; it is just enjoyable to get away for awhile. Life still has many sad and difficult times. I feel like that the "good guys" have earned their good ending. Not that anyone truly "earns" anything of this nature. It simply means that will all the suffering that they have endured, I am hopeful it was not all for naught and they get some kind of good outcome in the end.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I doubt Cersei lives through the end of the show. I'm not expecting a cliche happy end with everyone married and playing with their babies 5 years later, but I don't think they'd be that inventive.

One thing they kind of adhered to in the show, at least in the first few seasons, was a philosophy GRRM mentioned in an interview. I'm paraphrasing but.....wars are costly, often the better equipped army with more resources at their disposal wins, and sometimes the bad guys are smarter and the good guys lose. Honestly I don't think it would do the entire series justice if it's a sappy end where most of the remaining characters live through the final two episodes. But I'd guess at the end some form of "the good guys" will have won. If they do it shouldn't be a mostly painless win is all I'm saying.
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It's already going to be a painful win for anybody..Dany has lost two of her dragon children, her two best friends, most of her army and who knows how much else in the next episode.
 
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drvenner said:
I understand this very well. My point was that some people want to see more deaths because, in their opinion, that makes it closer to real life. I read and go to movies to escape from my reality, sometimes. Not that mine is bad; it is just enjoyable to get away for awhile. Life still has many sad and difficult times. I feel like that the "good guys" have earned their good ending. Not that anyone truly "earns" anything of this nature. It simply means that will all the suffering that they have endured, I am hopeful it was not all for naught and they get some kind of good outcome in the end.
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Exactly how I feel. The other side will not be satisfied with anything less than a resounding defeat of the "good guys"...that would be "shocking" enough for them.
 
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