HBO's "Game of Thrones"

[Weezer]

This is how I picture @Ulysees E. McGill tonight,

 

[Grand Vol]

I had a thought that we were being mislead-- Dany was not going to be the mad queen, but still going to die with the last dragon,-- and we'd see hunky guy like in her vision (which was ash instead of snow, I guess) This may still happen, but I don't want a happy little scene for her now. I wanted Jaime to strangle Cersei. Varys turned too quickly, and Tyrion ratting him out didn't feel right. The hound/Mountain was a good scene, but Hound was one of my favorites. I knew it was coming though.

I have this funny feeling Tyrion is plotting behind the scenes. For seven seasons he's been one of the masters of manipulating things his way. While he likely hated seeing his friend go, the death very well could serve the greater good.

Now, the most important part nobody is talking about? The raven scrolls Varys was sending out...

 

[drvenner]

They were setting up for the Mad Queen and definitely not hiding that. I was surprised at the carnage she dealt though.

I see a lot of issue with “predictability” this season and I just disagree.

It’s not been “Red wedding” like but this show was always going to end up in battle; there’s no way to make that premise unpredictable.

There's a lot of other ways the battle could have gone. I'm not saying I wanted sunshine and rainbows but I feel like I should have quit watching after episode 3.

 

[LotteryPick]

Out of all the things Dany is not, she’s never been a liar. She gave her word to Tyrion she wouldn’t blow up the city if the bells range. When the bells sounded, I expected it to be over. And instead she torched it.

Where did she say she wouldn’t blow up the city? I saw her give a look but that was it. That’s open to interpretation.

She also said she would “break the wheel” ... did she lie?

 

[Paper_Towel]

Also like how they spent episodes 1-3 fighting death, only to end up killing more people than the Night King probably ever did. In one day, at that.

 

[zjcvols]

Where did she say she wouldn’t blow up the city? I saw her give a look but that was it. That’s open to interpretation.

She also said she would “break the wheel” ... did she lie?

When she nodded her to Greyworm after Tyrion pleaded to the city and Tyrion mentioned it multiple times to Greyworm and Jon before the battle.

 

[zjcvols]

I have this funny feeling Tyrion is plotting behind the scenes. For seven seasons he's been one of the masters of manipulating things his way. While he likely hated seeing his friend go, the death very well could serve the greater good.

Now, the most important part nobody is talking about? The raven scrolls Varys was sending out...

I’m sure hearing the capital is in ashes and there’s actually a true heir to the throne isn’t going to get anyone to love Dany.

 

[LotteryPick]

There's a lot of other ways the battle could have gone. I'm not saying I wanted sunshine and rainbows but I feel like I should have quit watching after episode 3.

Go ahead and stop now then, my friend. No one is forcing you.

 

[LotteryPick]

When she nodded her to Greyworm after Tyrion pleaded to the city and Tyrion mentioned it multiple times to Greyworm and Jon before the battle.

Never mentioned though.

 

[zjcvols]

Never mentioned though.

It was heavily implied. At best she wasn’t totally honest with Tyrion lol

 

[Weezer]

If you really think about it, they have dropped hints from the very beginning that Dany could lose her mind. People are mistaking thinking she just turned evil with the truth she just fell into madness. They didn't change the character we all grew to love. She still did all those good things, when she was in her right mind. But all the losses, finding out she's not the true heir, it was all too much. The pressure broke her.

 

[zjcvols]

If I make a request, and someone nods their head yes to me, I assume that my request is being granted lol

 

[Paper_Towel]

I expected Dany was always going to burn the Red Keep. Did not expect her to burn the whole city and a quarter of her damn army.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Dany isn’t a good person, and they rushed to force it down our throats that she was going mad. Lost all her people, in a foreign land, dragons getting killed...

Still she sacked how many cities on the way to freeing all those slaves and never once killed anyone who didn’t have it coming.

Now she lights up all these innocent people and it’s all “well she totally got off on her brother dying”


No duh, he was an abusive, evil man who tried to barter his sister for an army.

 

[LotteryPick]

It was heavily implied. At best she wasn’t totally honest with Tyrion lol

Regardless, she’s not who she was. Her never lying in the past has zero to do with the person she is now. She isn’t the rightful heir despite thinking this she was her entire life and has now done what many targs have done in the past and gone absolutely crazy.

 

[zjcvols]

If you really think about it, they have dropped hints from the very beginning that Dany could lose her mind. People are mistaking thinking she just turned evil with the truth she just fell into madness. They didn't change the character we all grew to love. She still did all those good things, when she was in her right mind. But all the losses, finding out she's not the true heir, it was all too much. The pressure broke her.

Non wrestling fans won’t get this, but it’s like when Stone Cold turned at WM17 in 2001. Like you saw all the signs but still couldn’t believe at the end how heel they turned (Dany burning it all, stone cold siding with Vince).

 

[drvenner]

For my own curiosity, what would have been creative? Dany wins a close battle?

What outcome here couldn’t be predicted?

I don't know. Maybe I'm being unreasonable but I wanted some surprises I guess. All we got was a dragon better at dodging and Jaime killing Euron. It would have been better if maybe Dany starts to accept the surrender and Cersei has a plan that almost saves the throne but dies trying. I am not sure.

 

[drvenner]

She has always been dark. She has always had that in her. Her brother was an ass but she enjoyed his murder. She has no issue burning anyone she doesn't like. We just liked who she was opposing. Now she gets dark on some innocents and she is suddenly different?

She freed lots of slaves in Essos. She is fire but not necessarily dark.

 

[zjcvols]

Regardless, she’s not who she was. Her never lying in the past has zero to do with the person she is now. She isn’t the rightful heir despite thinking this she was her entire life and has now done what many targs have done in the past and gone absolutely crazy.

I’m not sure what we are exactly arguing?

My arguing was that it was still (to me) a pretty surprising moment she went that mad and burned it all down, especially after telling Tyrion she would spare the city if the bells tolled

 

[drvenner]

Go ahead and stop now then, my friend. No one is forcing you.

You asked a question and I answered. That's a pretty belittling tone. No need for that.

 

[Plano Vol]

Pam is going to wake up and walk in the bathroom only to be shocked by Bobby walking out of the shower. Bobby will say..."You've been dreaming about those damned dragons again, haven't you?".

 

[Grand Vol]

 

[Weezer]

I think some of the disappointment at this point is many of us think we have better ideas on how this should go than the writers. Combine that with weak storytelling this season and many fans are left thinking two years for this? WTF?

 

[JCP201]

If you really think about it, they have dropped hints from the very beginning that Dany could lose her mind. People are mistaking thinking she just turned evil with the truth she just fell into madness. They didn't change the character we all grew to love. She still did all those good things, when she was in her right mind. But all the losses, finding out she's not the true heir, it was all too much. The pressure broke her.

In the after show, they mentioned how she wasn't too broken up about the horrible way her brother died-- granted he was horrible, but still it was her brother.

 

[drvenner]

I will say that Bran may have a final say. Not sure what it will be.