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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Martin hates fans, and his whole schtick is building expectations and then subverting those fair expectations. He loves sticking it to whatever you want to call the people who have invested vast amounts of time in following this.

He is the ultimate troll.
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Then I definitely wouldn't spend any time feeding the troll lol
 
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If Bran was built up as having demigod abilities, a big picture outlook and sacrifice for the rest of his days as the 3ER, I'd be ok with this. If he was built up as a dude who has these powers... ok fine. Nothing supports this ending. at all. its stupid. All I ask for is support not Twitter trendy hot take guy type ish.
 
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utvols88 said:
If Bran was built up as having demigod abilities, a big picture outlook and sacrifice for the rest of his days as the 3ER, I'd be ok with this. If he was built up as a dude who has these powers... ok fine. Nothing supports this ending. at all. its stupid. All I ask for is support not Twitter trendy hot take guy type ish.
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It's like if Frodo carried the ring all the way to mt doom and Merry comes out of no where takes the ring and throws it into the mountain
 
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i don't get the notion about who "deserved" what...some of hte greatest stories ever are complete tragedies.....Jon didn't even want the throne. he never wanted glory. i think in the end, he probably got what he wanted, to some degree. Sansa and Ayra definitely got what they wanted. Tyrian got what he wanted.

cerci and dany got what they deserved, they just didn't get it the way some wanted it.

all the bad guys lost. drogon and ghost are fine.

the only issue with the season is the lack of depth and development of some of the plot points.

i am glad they didn't drag things out to just fill time like TWD has done. but there's a balance. you don't wnat to do what TWD did, but they came up short on some things in this season.

still have no issues with any of the resolutions we got.
 
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I'm in camp 1. I just wanted it to make more sense and that would have taken more time to get there. King Bran is totally out of left field. Most of the people on that council know very little about him or have even met him, but they're so ready to elect him king based on Tyrion's speech?
volinbham said:
Seems there are a couple "not happy" camps.

1. No real problem with the outcome, just the rush and the loss of the depth
2. Wanted a different outcome for the characters.

I lean towards 1. but not 2. in any way.

Oh yeah and

3. Still complaining Lady Stoneheart wasn't in the show...
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Godfatha said:
I'm in camp 1. I just wanted it to make more sense and that would have taken more time to get there. King Bran is totally out of left field. Most of the people on that council know very little about him or have even met him, but they're so ready to elect him king based on Tyrion's speech?
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i think that's part of the "gaps" that were left this season. they really could have done another 4 episodes for this season...easy.

at least one more to help get folks there as far as Dany turning.....and maybe a little more scope to the long night? still hard to believe that the great war was only 1 battle (i loved the episode though).

and you could have done at least two episodes on the aftermath of Dany's seige...and the politics of assembling that council, they're motives etc....

but....that allows time for more conspiracy to be inserted. doing it the way they did, it's easier to digest that they could take Jon prisoner, not execute him and summarily decide he should take the black, and elect a new king.

just juding from the reaction from yara, if you devote more time to it, you lend yourself to a not so tidy wrap up.

which is why people felt the whole thing was rushed....and it was....by GOT's standards.

still....i think each character's ending was good. we should feel really good for the stark girls and all the small council characters....even if you're not entirely happy about how we got there. jmo.
 
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Thought there might be a scene at the very end to show one of Craster’s babies as a white walker just to kind of restart the story so to speak.
 
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jakez4ut said:
that was in a couple of the spoilers...i'm really glad they didn't do that.
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Didn’t read the spoilers. After the return to normalcy at the small council meeting I thought it might be appropriate to show that, kind of continuing that aspect of Jon’s journey. Didn’t need it though, just a thought.
 
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ATC_VOL said:
Didn’t read the spoilers. After the return to normalcy at the small council meeting I thought it might be appropriate to show that, kind of continuing that aspect of Jon’s journey. Didn’t need it though, just a thought.
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i was thinking they might, for the same reason...as they rode off in to the woods, i was just waiting for some sign the WW's were still around. still, glad they didn't.
 
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utvols88 said:
That would have made Bran being king sensible, at least.
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sensible as defined by what we knew about westeros before Dany, or after?

ultimately, she accomplished her goal of breaking the wheel. it doesn't get any more broke than Bran the Broken..................elected by the leftover lords of westeros...........it's just not what so many had built up in their minds to be.....people have it in their heads who deserved what.....and that's not how anything worked in this story. it was the exception, not the rule, that people got what they deserved....
 
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volinbham said:
Bran basically set Jon free to go live with his other family - the Night Watch has no real purpose any more other than helping wildlings out but Grey Worm don't know that.
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If Jon honors his vows on the Night Watch better than last time, his banishment means the end of the Targaryen line. At least that particular spoke of the Wheel will be broken.
 
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