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MoCo_Vol said:
So my biggest let down of last night was the writers not asking the most important question "why?"

Why did the dragon melt the throne? The only good answer is because Bran's in a wheelchair and he won't be able to sit on it...but that's also a really dumb reason for the dragon to melt the throne.


I honestly think that was pointless, I get Drogon showing up and being upset...have him belch some fire in the air and still take Dany off. Just think the throne being burnt was a pointless addition that the writer's overthought would be foreshadowing and "poetic"
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there were definitely some "made for TV" moments. the scene with Dany walking down the stairs and Drogon spread his wings...visually, pretty cool. also kinda corny.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm wondering why Bronn was even in this season at all. Was he contractually obligated and the writers had no idea what to do with him?
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another big gap....he's conspicuously absent...makes a surprise appearance at winterfel, then is on the small council.

agree with the other poster about the obligation for lannisters to always pay their debts.....but there's another little story that could have used a little more to it. i mean, where the heck was Bronn, and how did he arrive at KL?

anywho............
 
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jakez4ut said:
sensible as defined by what we knew about westeros before Dany, or after?

ultimately, she accomplished her goal of breaking the wheel. it doesn't get any more broke than Bran the Broken..................elected by the leftover lords of westeros...........it's just not what so many had built up in their minds to be.....people have it in their heads who deserved what.....and that's not how anything worked in this story. it was the exception, not the rule, that people got what they deserved....
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More sensible in that it made sense in Brans character. It doesnt. He dismisses the politics and takes on a higher being who is not interested or destined to be involved in ruling. Then all of a sudden that's changed. There was zero suggestion that he was remotely interested in potentially ruling and becoming a king even if it was to make the world a better place or to station himself in a spot to save man from a future threat.

If there was a new night king, then hed still have that macro purpose but now, in the grand scheme of things, it's back to micro.
 
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eVOLve said:
Oh.. and we all know Tyrian is the real king even if he doesnt have the title. Bran will just find a tree to sit under.
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Actually, last night just confirmed who the real king of shows still is:

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utvols88 said:
More sensible in that it made sense in Brans character. It doesnt. He dismisses the politics and takes on a higher being who is not interested or destined to be involved in ruling. Then all of a sudden that's changed. There was zero suggestion that he was remotely interested in potentially ruling and becoming a king even if it was to make the world a better place or to station himself in a spot to save man from a future threat.

If there was a new night king, then hed still have that macro purpose but now, in the grand scheme of things, it's back to micro.
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i'm not really disagreeing with you. he makes the least amount of sense for a lot of reasons. but from a story standpoint of "breaking the wheel", i get it. you have basically none of the leaders of the houses we've gotten to know over 8 seasons left to make any decisiosns. some "new" houses have been formed or pushed in to positions of leadership............and they did the most "non GOT" thing ever by electing a king.

they could have elected Gendry, and it still would have accomplished the same goal. so on that front, i get what you're saying.

but, they went all in on breaking the wheel with placing Bran.

and it's a feel good moment for all things house stark. ned's boy rules the 6 kingdoms, and his girl gets the 7th. #starkswinning lol.

siap, it was a "tidy" ending. not great, not bad....imo.
 
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It seemed a bit out of character for faceless Arya to set off on her explorations on a Stark ship (have we seen one before?). Not discreet at all.

Seemed more like the beginning of victory lap set up by her new agent intending to capitalize on her fame and build the brand.

Maybe a few arena appearances with Tony Robbins and others talking about the power within each of us.
 
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I only watched the first 4 seasons (I may get around to watching the rest) but it should have ended with Jon and the Free Folk finding evidence of new White Walker activity and a snow storm forming in the distance and than cut to black. That would have been the only thing that would have made sense about sending Jon back to the Night's Watch/The Wall.
 
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jakez4ut said:
another big gap....he's conspicuously absent...makes a surprise appearance at winterfel, then is on the small council.

agree with the other poster about the obligation for lannisters to always pay their debts.....but there's another little story that could have used a little more to it. i mean, where the heck was Bronn, and how did he arrive at KL?

anywho............
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I'm sticking with my theory. He was contractually obligated to be in Season 8 and they didn't know what to do with him.

Of course, that could be said about a lot of characters this season...
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm sticking with my theory. He was contractually obligated to be in Season 8 and they didn't know what to do with him.

Of course, that could be said about a lot of characters this season...
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that's probably the case. still just found it odd, and it's something they could have done something with, with more time.

it is what it is. it didn't need a whole episode or anything lol. but he was a good character....

i think the biggest sin they committed for this season was cramming it in to 6 shows.
 
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Here's the best way to sum up the last 2 seasons of writing on GoT.


Writers were focused on trying to be unpredictable, just like GRRM's story is early on. But they did it for the sake of doing it, where GRRM has always driven the story and the rest happens more naturally.
 
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jakez4ut said:
that's probably the case. still just found it odd, and it's something they could have done something with, with more time.

it is what it is. it didn't need a whole episode or anything lol. but he was a good character....

i think the biggest sin they committed for this season was cramming it in to 6 shows.
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I think there was a lot of time wasted in the Episodes they had. Not specifically 3 or 5, but the others had too many "filler" moments.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think there was a lot of time wasted in the Episodes they had. Not specifically 3 or 5, but the others had too many "filler" moments.
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i felt that way as Tyrain was just walking around KL in the same spot we already saw last week with Ayra.

to me, there was some greatness in the 1st episode, and that "goodbye" episode before the long night. i think that was really the big payoff in the end, you got all these characters in the same place for a common goal. some things got addressed, others didn't, but you at least got to see some interaction finally. it had been a long long time since many of these folks had been on screen together. so that was pretty cool. dragons in winterfel...cool. some pretty epic battle sequences.....LSS, there was a lot to like too.

i really liked the interactions between Dany and Sansa.

anyway, yeah, i see your point. but they didn't approach filler quota like TWD has the past 2 or 3 seasons. i swear, they could have done those three seasons in 1, easy.

there's a balance. this season, it was rushed for the most part, there's a lot of context that we didn't get. we still get to the same place....but we're just used to it building a lot more.
 
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jakez4ut said:
we kinda talked about that last week. Jon, as he watched what Dany was doing pretty much lost faith in all of it. and no way he would be king at that point....would be easy to see him head North and not look back, assuming at the time that he lived while taking out Dany.....there were only two ways for Jon to go out at that point, imo, he dies or he leaves it all behind. now some of the choice was taken away from him by being forced to take the black, but i don't know that he'd of stuck around if it was up to him anyway.

i was a little surprised at how steadfast they made him in his loyalty to Dany this episode, but i think it was pretty obvious he was in a state of denial.....Good thing Tyrian and him had that talk probably.
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One of the articles I read suggested he is so duty bound he felt it was his duty to stop Dany but realizes it makes him a traitor. His move beyond the Wall is his way of exiling himself to deal with his conscious. In his mind he's not welcome in the "realm" because of his crime.
 
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volinbham said:
One of the articles I read suggested he is so duty bound he felt it was his duty to stop Dany but realizes it makes him a traitor. His move beyond the Wall is his way of exiling himself to deal with his conscious. In his mind he's not welcome in the "realm" because of his crime.
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So, after the Unsullied are gone, what's to stop them from bringing him back?

They shoulda hired me to write Episode 6. It would have been glorious.
 
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jakez4ut said:
there were definitely some "made for TV" moments. the scene with Dany walking down the stairs and Drogon spread his wings...visually, pretty cool. also kinda corny.
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I liked it. Was just wondering where she got the outfit. Are some Unsullied carrying a big wardrobe for her?
 
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volinbham said:
One of the articles I read suggested he is so duty bound he felt it was his duty to stop Dany but realizes it makes him a traitor. His move beyond the Wall is his way of exiling himself to deal with his conscious. In his mind he's not welcome in the "realm" because of his crime.
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the opposite of Jamie Lannister. and Jamie actually saved the millions of people. Jon just avenged them, begrudgenly.....sort of. so i can see that.
 
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