Here it is. Non existent antifa takes over Seattle neighborhood. No police presence

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The man bun-skinny jeans occupy Seattle folks might be in for a dose of reality sooner that they realized. Two years from now they might really hate being woke in prison at 6 am to eat some powdered eggs and oatmeal mush.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
From what I understand the current situation is that much of the area has basically become a vehicle free pedestrian zone. Sort of a block party currently, music, vendors, some free food, drinks etc. One spot has set up a medical clinic to help people.

Additionally, it sounds like government authorities and some of the people from the CHAZ area are working on solutions for the community.
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Lol
 
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BartW said:
Ok. I’m not questioning your friend, I’m just trying to get the scoop. I think I remember the OP being on twitter but I can’t track it down anymore.

The issue with the schools was that nobody asked and SWAT and national guard just showed up and set up camp there. But schools are closed, and it’s government property, so I don’t see the problem. I have a very low opinion of both Seattle public schools and SPD so won’t pick a side there. But it’s not a big issue; it barely made local news.

I will take issue though with your characterization that the police were “ran out of the station” or that protesters “took over their building”. The protesters didn’t take over the SPD’s building. SPD just packed up and left one morning.

Honestly, the neighborhood right now appears to be much more peaceful since the police have left. The SPD instigated a lot of the violence. Their entire strategy was stupid from the get-go. The SPD set up an approximately one-block perimeter around the station where they wouldn’t allow people to protest. This just so happens to be smack dab in the middle of the liveliest neighborhood of Seattle where the most protesters are concentrated, and the police station is the most obvious place to protest right around there. It is a protest against police brutality, after all.

So every day they engaged in silly turf wars where SPD would try to advance and move the barricades a few hundred feet, then retreat, then advance, then retreat for no apparent reason. The protesters on the line would refuse to move, and then the cops would start with the rubber bullets and tear gas again. Chaos ensues. Rinse repeat every evening (plus a lot of other BS). SPD and the mayor have handled the situation terribly. The mayor will likely be removed from office before she has the chance to lose reelection. The police chief (a black woman no less) is toast too.

Anyway, earlier this week the police just left. The building is locked and boarded up. Nobody has broken in. Although, there is a “plan” to turn the police station into a community center. The other night there was an armed crew defending the station from potential bad actors. The consensus seems to be that the police left hoping that the protesters would set fire to the building, thereby justifying their failed strategies. Then they can swoop in with their billy clubs and tear gas and save the day again.

These protesters really are almost entirely run-of-the-mill Seattle liberals (lunatics, yes, criminals, no). I have not seen antifa anywhere. The major criminal elements struck on day 1-2 of the protests and haven’t been back since. The CHAZ is just a big block party right now. All the police have to do to take back their precinct is walk back in from where they’re posted up enjoying coffee and doughnuts a few blocks over.
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This is from a few days ago.

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Wafflestomper said:
I believe the guy I've known for 15 years over what I hear from media and from strangers on social media. Feel free to believe what you want.
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You are telling me that your friend is a cop there under "siege" and the only means of communicating the need for help is Twitter? Have I got that right?
 
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Mick said:
That reads nothing like the anarchy that is being portrayed here. No mention of homeless people stealing food or extorting businesses for protection money.

By dusk Tuesday, a couple paced the autonomous zone’s 11th Avenue using trash-picking equipment they said they purchased for Burning Man. The streets smelled like the Fourth of July, as people seared hot dogs on curbside grills. “REGISTER TO VOTE HERE” read a poster at volunteer station.
At 11 p.m., former President Richard Nixon’s face beamed on a projector at the intersection of Pine and 12th Avenue, as a crowd of perhaps 200 gathered quietly to watch DuVernay’s film about racism and inequality, just steps from the precinct. The crowd remained calm and peaceful. About a dozen tents were pitched along streets near the intersection, nestled in for the night, and promising an interesting summer.
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My fellow earthicans.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
This is from a few days ago.

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Yet days later nobody is occupying or setting fire to the police station. The worst that’s happened is some graffiti…

There was never a siege. If the police had just stayed inside their building and let the protesters be this would have never become an issue. Set up barricades outside the station if you’re scared; don’t try to shut down entire blocks. And then don't go arbitrarily moving those barricades. They're playing Battle Royale. Maybe there was a "credible threat" on day 1-2 of the protests when Minneapolis was burning, but that threat clearly never materialized.

I personally don’t buy the Trojan Horse theory. I do think SPD realized their strategy was wrong, but I think there was actually a wise decision somewhere up the chain to change course and de-escalate. Retreat and regroup. Let the party run its course and die down, open a dialogue, and resolve this through methods other than brute force.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You on the ground reporting? Serious question.
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No, I’m at our office in the eastlake neighborhood today, which borders the capitol hill neighborhood immediately to the north. My work does take me through the area pretty regularly. I stopped there for lunch and spectated a bit last week. I drove by the CHAZ yesterday and stopped briefly to take a look. I have two site visits a few blocks over tomorrow. I should have time to take a stroll through the zone afterward. I can report :p
 
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BartW said:
No, I’m at our office in the eastlake neighborhood today, which borders the capitol hill neighborhood immediately to the north. My work does take me through the area pretty regularly. I stopped there for lunch and spectated a bit last week. I drove by the CHAZ yesterday and stopped briefly to take a look. I have two site visits a few blocks over tomorrow. I should have time to take a stroll through the zone afterward. I can report :p
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Try it with a red hat on - just for shizz and giggles.
 
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volinbham said:
I'm really talking conceptually. Personally I don't care who it is (what group/what cause); I simply can't condone or support this action. Private property? Knock yourself out. Public property? Nope.
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Oh. Well more generally, protests often block off public streets from traffic. Do you take issue with all protests that obstruct traffic, or is it the length of the protest that crosses the line? Or just that they don’t have a permit? Public streets are often closed for a variety of perfectly legitimate reasons…

I don’t necessarily disagree with you – just playing contrarian here.
 
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