Hey alleged Christians ....

I am a Christian (Presbyterian, to be exact) and I do consider some of my politics to be informed by that. Although I fall far short in my faith (as we all do), when it comes to voting I do place significant value on a candidate's level of compassion for the poor and the disadvantaged. Indeed, part of my, generally speaking, liberal views on things like spending and taxation, education, and welfare policies in general are driven by my faith and view of Christianity.

So when I see people who look down on me because I'm a liberal, who proclaim superiority based on their Christian values, but then who either run for office or vote for others based on policies that outright promote wealth accumulation and cutting off services to the poor, I guess it just rubs me the wrong way.

My view on the needy is no different yours, other than maybe who can take care of themselves but won't.

How to help, and the manner in which it is carried out is the difference.

My money is better spent towards the needy when not filtered through politicians pockets and that includes the "alleged" christians in office or running.
 
Am I supposed to believe politicians really put God first? A politician putting someone else first is news to me.
 
I am a Christian (Presbyterian, to be exact) and I do consider some of my politics to be informed by that. Although I fall far short in my faith (as we all do), when it comes to voting I do place significant value on a candidate's level of compassion for the poor and the disadvantaged. Indeed, part of my, generally speaking, liberal views on things like spending and taxation, education, and welfare policies in general are driven by my faith and view of Christianity.

words vs deeds - again I think the fundamental disconnect is your view that conservative policies are less compassionate than liberal ones. It is a matter of how best to address the problem, not whether or not the problem is important. Obama is constantly talking about helping the disadvantaged but his actions don't match - he's dolling out the best to his political allies and under his policies, the plight of the poor has worsened.

So when I see people who look down on me because I'm a liberal, who proclaim superiority based on their Christian values, but then who either run for office or vote for others based on policies that outright promote wealth accumulation and cutting off services to the poor, I guess it just rubs me the wrong way.

Let's take Bachmann. I'm not a fan but I would guess just via her foster child actions she's done more to help the unfortunate (and in a very real, direct way) than most of us here. I just don't think it's accurate to suggest her policies are motivated by a desire to help the rich at the expense of the poor and in fact, I bet she believes her policies will do MORE to help the poor than those of the current administration.

You may disagree with the policy's ability to have this impact but you are completely guessing at the motivation behind the policy.
 
Let's take Bachmann. I'm not a fan but I would guess just via her foster child actions she's done more to help the unfortunate (and in a very real, direct way) than most of us here. I just don't think it's accurate to suggest her policies are motivated by a desire to help the rich at the expense of the poor and in fact, I bet she believes her policies will do MORE to help the poor than those of the current administration.

You may disagree with the policy's ability to have this impact but you are completely guessing at the motivation behind the policy.

She is white and has $$$$.....all the proof I need
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presbyterian - can you explain what the denomination to me, pls.


Four our purposes here today, its basically the same as any major Protestant church, just like Methodists, for example. Just a difference in governance.

Plus I like the colors.
 
Four our purposes here today, its basically the same as any major Protestant church, just like Methodists, for example. Just a difference in governance.

Plus I like the colors.

I'm United. Let me explain. We believe in God - Women can be pastors - and we only show up to church on Christmas Eve. Is this similar to your experience?
 
I'm United. Let me explain. We believe in God - Women can be pastors - and we only show up to church on Christmas Eve. Is this similar to your experience?


Women can be pastors in Presbyterian church, as well. I go about once a month, maybe every six weeks. My favorite service is Maundy Thursday twilight service. Christmas and Easter = too many rug rats.
 
Women can be pastors in Presbyterian church, as well. I go about once a month, maybe every six weeks. My favorite service is Maundy Thursday twilight service. Christmas and Easter = too many rug rats.

Hates kids...........especially if they r white
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What's even better? I show up once a year and the whole service is one big song. I don't remember a single reading from the Bible.
 
So odysseus equals jesus.....any takers....both carpenters....both had a last supper.....both visited hell.......
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