Hey coach worshippers...

[patrick]

It is now because Freak won't talk to me.

Too bad for you. I am just a poster on a chat board like the 1000's who frequent here daily.

 

[oregonvol]

And why do people keep making references to firing CBJ in this thread? The OP was speaking of criticizing a coach when criticism is or may be due. OP never said CBJ should be fired.

Wow, finally someone who can read. Thanks. I knew I'd find one eventually...

 

[oregonvol]

Michigan almost lost to Akron 2 weeks ago, and Florida almost lost to La-Lafayette last year. Chill out.

So it is your contention that both Michigan's fanbase and Florida's fanbase were happy with their coaches after those games?

Interesting...

 

[Freak]

So it is your contention that both Michigan's fanbase and Florida's fanbase were happy with their coaches after those games?

Interesting...

Is it your contention that everyone in those fan bases who didn't immediately climb out on the ledge were called out as coach worshipers?

 

[oregonvol]

Is it your contention that everyone in those fan bases who didn't immediately climb out on the ledge were called out as coach worshipers?

Where did I ask for anyone to get out on a ledge? All I ask is that the coaches be held accountable for how the team plays. It's really not that crazy if you think about it.

I don't have a problem with people who support this staff. I would hope you would support this staff, since they are going to be here awhile. I have a problem with the folks who think any criticism of this staff should be verboten. The types of people who start threads like this: For you simpletons or this: UT most irrational fan base

It's odd too that you don't have a problem with people calling everyone who criticizes coaches "simpletons" or calling them the most irrational fanbase ever, but yet you're so concerned with me calling those people "coach worshippers".

 

[AlumniChase]

If "fans" get this pissed after a win, imagine how angry they'll be after the next 3 losses...

Next 3? Lol. Try 7.

 

[Cecil Basil]

Where did I ask for anyone to get out on a ledge? All I ask is that the coaches be held accountable for how the team plays. It's really not that crazy if you think about it.

I don't have a problem with people who support this staff. I would hope you would support this staff, since they are going to be here awhile. I have a problem with the folks who think any criticism of this staff should be verboten. The types of people who start threads like this: For you simpletons or this: UT most irrational fan base

Then maybe you should quit the internet. It's not for everyone.

 

[Freak]

Where did I ask for anyone to get out on a ledge? All I ask is that the coaches be held accountable for how the team plays. It's really not that crazy if you think about it.

I don't have a problem with people who support this staff. I would hope you would support this staff, since they are going to be here awhile. I have a problem with the folks who think any criticism of this staff should be verboten. The types of people who start threads like this: For you simpletons or this: UT most irrational fan base

It's odd too that you don't have a problem with people calling everyone who criticizes coaches "simpletons" or calling them the most irrational fanbase ever, but yet you're so concerned with me calling those people "coach worshippers".

If you want to play this game, where did anyone say coaches aren't accountable for what happens on the field?

I just picked this thread because I find it ironic that you start a thread to complain about complainers. That's all. You said you were unable to post your critiques without being called names, so I was attempting to give you the floor to do so. And after all these pages I still don't know what your issue is besides you don't see improvement and coaches should be accountable, which just seems vague to me.

If you're point is simply people shouldn't be thrilled with every aspect of our play and coaching, I honestly don't see anyone lining up to disagree. At the same time, I think people realize it happens and we are happy it didn't cost us a win.

Why do you care which threads I post in? I've taken exception to plenty "true fan" threads and the abundance of constant Nick Saban comparisons. That said, I'm certain I fit your mold of a coach worshiper, which I'm happy to discuss my reasons for, but you only seem to want to point to other threads and other posters who aren't even posting in this one, all while sharing your well researched conclusion that fans of other teams aren't happy when their team squeaks by in a game which shouldn't have been close.

 

[Other_Guy]

If you want to play this game, where did anyone say coaches aren't accountable for what happens on the field?

I just picked this thread because I find it ironic that you start a thread to complain about complainers. That's all. You said you were unable to post your critiques without being called names, so I was attempting to give you the floor to do so. And after all these pages I still don't know what your issue is besides you don't see improvement and coaches should be accountable, which just seems vague to me.

If you're point is simply people shouldn't be thrilled with every aspect of our play and coaching, I honestly don't see anyone lining up to disagree. At the same time, I think people realize it happens and we are happy it didn't cost us a win.

Why do you care which threads I post in? I've taken exception to plenty "true fan" threads and the abundance of constant Nick Saban comparisons. That said, I'm certain I fit your mold of a coach worshiper, which I'm happy to discuss my reasons for, but you choose to point to other threads and other posters who aren't even posting in this one, all while sharing your well researched conclusion that fans of other teams aren't happy when their team squeaks by in a game which shouldn't have been close.

Great post Freak. I also just noticed... why aren't we allowed to report you?

 

[Other_Guy]

Nevermind for a second it didn't show up as an option to report... must've been a mobile glitch.

 

[Freak]

Great post Freak. I also just noticed... why aren't we allowed to report you?

I don't know, maybe because you would report me to me.

Feel free to call me out if I need to be reported. I'll gladly put myself in timeout. :lol:

 

[Sudden Impact]

If you want to play this game, where did anyone say coaches aren't accountable for what happens on the field?

I just picked this thread because I find it ironic that you start a thread to complain about complainers. That's all. You said you were unable to post your critiques without being called names, so I was attempting to give you the floor to do so. And after all these pages I still don't know what your issue is besides you don't see improvement and coaches should be accountable, which just seems vague to me.

If you're point is simply people shouldn't be thrilled with every aspect of our play and coaching, I honestly don't see anyone lining up to disagree. At the same time, I think people realize it happens and we are happy it didn't cost us a win.

Why do you care which threads I post in? I've taken exception to plenty "true fan" threads and the abundance of constant Nick Saban comparisons. That said, I'm certain I fit your mold of a coach worshiper, which I'm happy to discuss my reasons for, but you only seem to want to point to other threads and other posters who aren't even posting in this one, all while sharing your well researched conclusion that fans of other teams aren't happy when their team squeaks by in a game which shouldn't have been close.

Ok I get it...you were giving him enough rope to hang himself...

Well said.

I admit it, I am a Vol Fan and a Vol Coach Worshipper. My addiction started in 1963. Many Vol teams and coaches enabled me. I don't think I will ever break my addiction nor do I have any desire to. Season ticket holder, also.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

Hater!

Did you see the commercial where Jim Harbaugh is trying to coach pee wee football team? We are somewhere between that and your blame it all on the coach tirade.

Considering our talent and having the toughest schedule in the country, we are doing ok. The frustration is we are close to moving up a knotch on performance, but little things are holding us back (QB-WR play, turnovers, depth, injuries).

Be patient my friend! We are going to make sombody cry in the next three weeks.

 

[landscapingvol]

I think we need to go ahead and change coaches 5 games into the season. Let's try to make this the longest rebuilding job in all of college football that way no one with an IQ above a sandwich would want to come and then criticize whoever is dumb enough to come. Some of you need to punch yourself in the face for being that stupid.

 

[DD4ME]

Usually the most ill conceived threads get the most posts. This thread may have one of the largest freak post counts this side of the hot dog thread.

 

[oregonvol]

If you want to play this game, where did anyone say coaches aren't accountable for what happens on the field?

here and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here

...I can keep going...

I just picked this thread because I find it ironic that you start a thread to complain about complainers. That's all. You said you were unable to post your critiques without being called names, so I was attempting to give you the floor to do so. And after all these pages I still don't know what your issue is besides you don't see improvement and coaches should be accountable, which just seems vague to me.

The point of this thread was not to dissect the coaching strategy. Where would you get that idea from the OP? The point was to ask for clarity from all those who maintain that it is ridiculous to ever criticize coaches.

If you're point is simply people shouldn't be thrilled with every aspect of our play and coaching, I honestly don't see anyone lining up to disagree.

Once again, I'll direct you to here and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here

Why do you care which threads I post in? I've taken exception to plenty "true fan" threads and the abundance of constant Nick Saban comparisons. That said, I'm certain I fit your mold of a coach worshiper, which I'm happy to discuss my reasons for, but you only seem to want to point to other threads and other posters who aren't even posting in this one, all while sharing your well researched conclusion that fans of other teams aren't happy when their team squeaks by in a game which shouldn't have been close.

The whole point of this thread was a response to the many many threads on the board saying how this is the most irrational fanbase ever because people are upset with barely beating S. Alabama. I just wanted someone to tell me what other major program's fanbase would have been happy with a performance like we had yesterday.

But 17+ pages later, my question still remains unanswered. I'd be happy to discuss particulars of the coaching and the fact that we can't seem to make any improvements in the passing game with you, but that wasn't my question.

 

[northknoxvol]

Errybody around here lately gives the coach a free pass......dont you dare say anything negative about the Head Coach........you better blame it all on the players!

 

[tennrich1]

I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.

I don't know about that but this one thing I do know you may be the biggest.....nah.... I'll just save it..... Hey Volnation we knew this would happen it just really seems REALLY stupid when I see it in print.... Oh wait he's from Oregon....never mind!!!! This is fun!!!!

 

[Other_Guy]

here and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here

...I can keep going...



The point of this thread was not to dissect the coaching strategy. Where would you get that idea from the OP? The point was to ask for clarity from all those who maintain that it is ridiculous to ever criticize coaches.



Once again, I'll direct you to here and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here



The whole point of this thread was a response to the many many threads on the board saying how this is the most irrational fanbase ever because people are upset with barely beating S. Alabama. I just wanted someone to tell me what other major program's fanbase would have been happy with a performance like we had yesterday.

But 17+ pages later, my question still remains unanswered. I'd be happy to discuss particulars of the coaching and the fact that we can't seem to make any improvements in the passing game with you, but that wasn't my question.

Who is happy with yesterday's performance? Everyone knows this is unacceptable for the program. The expectations are very high for the University of Tennessee. However, you can't have high expectations for this current group because they aren't very good. You can't blame the coaches for bad players not executing simple plays. Did that answer your question? If not, I don't see how anyone can.

 

[gwlyles214]

No. It does not answer my question. Please read my first post. My question was, what other fanbase of a major college program would be happy with their coaching staff after narrowly beating South Alabama?

I didn't ask how the coaching staff feels about it.

Most of the posts on here are whining about anyone being upset about the game or having a single negative thought about our coach. I was wondering what other fanbases meet these people's lofty standards for how to react (or rather how to just blame the players) when your team looks inept.



Aside from the secondary (which has made some impressive strides), no I don't.

kentucky fans maybe??

 

[Freak]

here and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here

...I can keep going...



The point of this thread was not to dissect the coaching strategy. Where would you get that idea from the OP? The point was to ask for clarity from all those who maintain that it is ridiculous to ever criticize coaches.



Once again, I'll direct you to here and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here



The whole point of this thread was a response to the many many threads on the board saying how this is the most irrational fanbase ever because people are upset with barely beating S. Alabama. I just wanted someone to tell me what other major program's fanbase would have been happy with a performance like we had yesterday.

But 17+ pages later, my question still remains unanswered. I'd be happy to discuss particulars of the coaching and the fact that we can't seem to make any improvements in the passing game with you, but that wasn't my question.

Did you actually read the OP in any of those threads you linked? I clicked on the first three of those links and nowhere did I see anyone say "coaches aren't accountable for what happens on the field". I'm not going to bother clicking on the rest but feel free to paste a quote if you can find one. Also, please post a couple for me that say it's "ridiculous to ever criticize coaches" because I'd like to jump in that discussion also.

And just to be clear, I don't agree with any threads which state coaches aren't accountable and shouldn't be critiqued any more than I agree with silly call out threads like yours.

You keep referring to your point in the OP, and I'm not sure what the point of the thread is, that's why I've asked you numerous times now. It's obviously my fault for assuming you had a point aside from asking Vol fans to speak on behalf of every other fan base in the country.

Based on this post I thought maybe you wanted to discuss some of your concerns, but again, my fault for assuming. This is strictly a coach worshipper call out thread so let's stay on track. I get it.

So, now that I realize your question wasn't rhetorical, would you like a full list of every Division I team whose fan bases would be pleased, or are we just talking BCS teams? Because if you want legitimate answer then, by all means, let's make a list. Better yet, you give us your list and we will let you know whether or not we agree. That seems fair. It would surely get the specific answer to your OP that you are so desperately yearning for.

Once you post your list, as a full-fledged coach worshipper, I will be sure to respond, since that's the intent of the thread and all.

 

[patrick]

I don't know, maybe because you would report me to me.

Feel free to call me out if I need to be reported. I'll gladly put myself in timeout. :lol:

Where do I file my report?

 

[JAEvans24]

Did you actually read the OP in any of those threads you linked? I clicked on the first three of those links and no where did I see anyone say "coaches aren't accountable for what happens on the field". I'm not going to bother clicking on the rest but feel free to paste a quote if you can find one. Also, please post a couple for me that say it's "ridiculous to ever criticize coaches" because I'd like to jump in that discussion also.

And just to be clear, I don't agree with any threads which state coaches aren't accountable and shouldn't be critiqued any more than I agree with silly call out threads like yours.

You keep referring to your point in the OP, and I'm not sure what the point of the thread is, that's why I've asked you numerous times now. It's obviously my fault for assuming you had a point aside from asking Vol fans to speak on behalf of every other fan base in the country.

Based on this post I thought maybe you wanted to discuss some of your concerns, but again, my fault for assuming. This is strictly a coach worshipper call out thread so let's stay on track. I get it.

So, now that I realize your question wasn't rhetorical, would you like a full list of every Division I team whose fan bases would be pleased, or are we just talking BCS teams? Because if you want legitimate answer then, by all means, let's make a list. Better yet, you give us your list and we will let you know whether or not we agree. That seems fair. It would surely get the specific answer to your OP that you are so desperately yearning for.

Once you post your list, as a full-fledged coach worshipper I will be sure to respond, since that's the intent of the thread and all.

:yes:

 

[BanditVol]

Saban lost to La Tech at HOMECOMING in his first year, after suspending a player for the game and then letting him play in the second half in an act of desperation....and STILL losing!

Are bammer fans happy with Saban?

 

[92volalum]

The problem with a shotgun based offense/when you have a running football team is that you have very basic runs and don't add diversity.

Under center, you add different formations, different motions, different shifts, etc. You also have iso's, dives, power plays, stretches, tosses, sweeps, counters, etc.

In a shotgun offense, you basically have the read option, inside zone, outside zone, a counter play and that's it. It's also harder to get double teams in the shotgun offense. I'm not sure why, it just is. When you don't have a running QB, it makes it more difficult because the zone read becomes close to obsolete. When you have an above average offensive line, and not a great one, you are in trouble no matter what system you run. Then UT doesn't have a running back that can't make one cut and get to the second level for a huge run either (despite what we saw today).

Also, you give away which way you run with what side the TE is, especially since UT runs one TE sets almost all the time. This means no balanced line. Without a balanced line, the front seven can shift to the side with the TE without much trouble.

This n if we know u know sec def coaches know it.. thus we will continue to have issues..

Im not a fan of the read option formation at all. I believe u have to make the def alignment change thus putting the off at an advantage n our current scheme is high school level vs semi pro def n sec.