Hey coach worshippers...

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Freak said:
Are you implying they are at fault for not recruiting guys who would be ready to start by week five, or are you just legitimately asking? Just trying to clarify.
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Im saying that they recruited these guys. One is dual threat and the other is drop back passer. But yes I question why they can't get either ready to play. Other staffs around the country have frosh qb's ready and it has happened at UT in the past. Maybe though neither is good enough to play and if that is the case, then why aren't they chasing more qb recruits?
 
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oregonvol said:
I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.
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Michigan almost lost to Akron 2 weeks ago, and Florida almost lost to La-Lafayette last year. Chill out.
 
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patrick said:
Im saying that they recruited these guys. One is dual threat and the other is drop back passer. But yes I question why they can't get either ready to play. Other staffs around the country have frosh qb's ready and it has happened at UT in the past. Maybe though neither is good enough to play and if that is the case, then why aren't they chasing more qb recruits?
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I think both of the freshmen are talented. Trent Dilfer said both are BCS caliber quarterbacks. But I think a freshman starting in the SEC is the exception not the rule, especially if they weren't in the two deep coming out of fall practice.

Tennessee has one redshirt freshman and two true freshman QBs on the roster, do you really want another one, and could you recruit one that could come in and start next season?
 
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lincolncovol said:
If I really have to explain why I'm not ready to fire a coaching staff after 5 frecking games, with a roster that's been ruined by bad coaching and one change after another, it would do no good. You oblivious wouldn't understand .
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The roster isn't the issue with this team. The offensive players were brought here when an I form. was used. Let me preface this by saying I like Butch, but, him not wanting to change the offense around a little to help shows either his stubborness or inability to adapt. I have only seen one decent half of football out of Worley and that was the second half of Fl. and anybody would have looked decent after the first half. I am losing confidence in the best staff in America each Sat.. and am pretty sure some of our recruits are thinking the same thing.
 
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mccrackb said:
The roster isn't the issue with this team. The offensive players were brought here when an I form. was used. Let me preface this by saying I like Butch, but, him not wanting to change the offense around a little to help shows either his stubborness or inability to adapt. I have only seen one decent half of football out of Worley and that was the second half of Fl. and anybody would have looked decent after the first half. I am losing confidence in the best staff in America each Sat.. and am pretty sure some of our recruits are thinking the same thing.
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You don't think there's a roster issue, at all?

How should he change the offense to adapt?
 
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sjt18 said:
I think he's growing. I see many people here going nuts but I was actually encouraged by the game UT and he played today. Lots of things went wrong. It could have been one of those embarrassing upsets. It SHOULD have been a 3 or 4 TD win. But it was ultimately a win.

If I were really going to be disappointed with something... it would be the D at times. If this had been a 31-14 win... then some here wouldn't be engaged in so much handwringing.
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The 3 and outs aren't helping the defense at all. When our defense does struggle it's typically after multiple 3 and outs, which most defenses would crack under. Worley has a tough job. But any of his mistakes are effecting multiple areas of the team. From reciever confidence, to run game effectiveness, to defensive rest.

He's making progress however and he's adequate enough to beat the USA's of the world.

At this juncture I doubt that would be enough to beat Auburn, Vandy, or Mizzou though. Just my 2 cents.
 
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DD4ME said:
The 3 and outs aren't helping the defense at all. When our defense does struggle it's typically after multiple 3 and outs, which most defenses would crack under. Worley has a tough job. But any of his mistakes are effecting multiple areas of the team. From reciever confidence, to run game effectiveness, to defensive rest.

He's making progress however and he's adequate enough to beat the USA's of the world.

At this juncture I doubt that would be enough to beat Auburn, Vandy, or Mizzou though. Just my 2 cents.
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I watched our receivers a lot yesterday and I just can't figure out how they seem to be getting a pass from so many people.
 
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Freak said:
I watched our receivers a lot yesterday and I just can't figure out how they seem to be getting a pass from so many people.
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I'm certainly not. They are a very weak link but with Worley being the veteran of that crew, he's got to lead and make some connections with some of these guys more consistently. He should have his #1 regardless who the coaches #1 is. They're also young and going to have drops him compounding that with bad throws is what's really killing us. I'm overly tough on Worley I'll admit but it'd be nice if as the veteran he'd lead them and deliver for us more consistently.
 
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Last year I heard a ton about Bray and recievers working on timing putting in extra minutes. JH, DR, and Bray were very tight. Tell me who is Worley tight with?
 
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DD4ME said:
I'm certainly not. They are a very weak link but with Worley being the veteran of that crew, he's got to lead and make some connections with some of these guys more consistently. He should have his #1 regardless who the coaches #1 is. They're also young and going to have drops him compounding that with bad throws is what's really killing us. I'm overly tough on Worley I'll admit but it'd be nice if as the veteran he'd lead them and deliver for us more consistently.
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I'm not sure anyone has proven enough to solidify that no. 1 receiver spot, though. It would have been nice for Howard to play that role but it just hasn't happened. Josh Smith has made a lot of strides as a true freshman but he's dropped some balls you would like to see him catch.

There can't be a less experienced group of receivers in Tennessee football history.
 
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DD4ME said:
Last year I heard a ton about Bray and recievers working on timing putting in extra minutes. JH, DR, and Bray were very tight. Tell me who is Worley tight with?
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See my post above, but who would you suggest? I think among the freshmen he's put a lot of confidence in Smith. Croom finally stepped up yesterday.
 
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Since Alabama lost to Louisiana Monroe in year 1 under Saban and UT beat South Alabama...I wonder what some of you but jobs think about Saban.

Should they have fired him? Does his offense not work in the SEC? Is he incapable of gettin the most out of his players?
 
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#220
Did you post anything when we stopped Air Force on a 2 point conversion to win the game? Or how about when we needed OT to beat UAB? What about when we gave up 2000 yards of Offense to Troy?

Things happen. Parity in college football is at an all time high. Just ask the Gamecocks.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Since Alabama lost to Louisiana Monroe in year 1 under Saban and UT beat South Alabama...I wonder what some of you but jobs think about Saban.

Should they have fired him? Does his offense not work in the SEC? Is he incapable of gettin the most out of his players?
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I'm not part of the "Fire Butch" group, but the two situations aren't similar. Saban was already a proven SEC coach.
 
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oregonvol said:
I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.
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You're right. We should fire Butch today and start over again. Good call.
 
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Freak said:
See my post above, but who would you suggest? I think among the freshmen he's put a lot of confidence in Smith. Croom finally stepped up yesterday.
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I don't know who Worley trusts, maybe none of them. He doesn't seem to have a chemistry with any of them in all honesty. North or Croom would make the most sense to me because they have the frames to go up and battle for the ball. Croom did have a breakout game.

I think if you could get Worley and at least one reciever to get on the same page the others will fall in for now I compare it to the 2010 Oline. No one in charge. No team belief and so despite talent being available we aren't capitalizing. Add in below average QB play and it gets ugly quick.
 
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volmanbill said:
I'm not part of the "Fire Butch" group, but the two situations aren't similar. Saban was already a proven SEC coach.
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So because Saban had coached in the SEC before it was cool for him to lose to a much lesser team, but it's an issue if Jones beats a lesser team?
 
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Vol8188 said:
So because Saban had coached in the SEC before it was cool for him to lose to a much lesser team, but it's an issue if Jones beats a lesser team?
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Where did I say that? I'm just saying there's nothing comparable to Saban at Bama and CBJ at Tennessee. Nothing.
 
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