Hillary Clinton Uses Personal Email for State Business

[SpaceCoastVol]

My logic is ironclad and undeniable.

And please stop with the personal insults. I'm tired of it.

You could always go back to swamp gas.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

What are GOPers trying to hide by not producing their personal computers so we can see if they sent or received work emails on personal accounts ?

deflection. Answer the quesiton

 

[37L1]

Ask him how his "investigation" is going.

 

[Grand Vol]

It's like House of Cards, or something. I'd love to know what kind of ish led up to Obama throwing her under the bus like this.

I've always been under the impression they didn't get along as it was. Or at least the rumors had it the Clintons and Obamas didn't care for each other. But the SecState job was a way of placating her without her interfering with the 2008 elections like she could have. While it likely wouldn't have cost him the election, it could have divided the DNC at a time when solidarity was essential.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Why do I have this feeling nothing will come of it?

Trust me, it will be ignored when it's convenient to do so.

Exactly. There is not a driveby news media out there that will make anything of this once she announces.

We are truly in trouble when that skank gets elected.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

People are already bored by it. Congress' approval rating is so awful that having hearings on it dooms the story to oh by the way status.

Congress always has a low approval rating. who cares about that? They certainly don't. The only approval rating that matters to them is the one that determines whether or not they get reelected. Anything else is a complete waste of time.

 

[CSpindizzy]

An interesting twist if true:

Obama adviser behind leak of Hillary Clinton

Meh. Would not put it past this being out of the Clinton playbook. Have those on your side take shots at you as well. The further to the left those attacking you are the better. Gives her the appearance of "independence" and more to the middle. She loves to be the victim of "fringes" attacking her.

 

[volinbham]

What qualifier?

The argument from the GOP is that without an inspection of her personal computer we don't know that we have all of her work emails.

She says she turned them all over for production. They say only way to know that is to search her personal computer to see if there are remnants of any not produced.

The inevitable, logical conclusion of that reasoning is that any government official turn over all personal computers because we have only their word for it they didn't send work email from there.

Not even one. Right? Please. Of course they did.

1. You still haven't answered whether your believe her "convenience" story.

2. If you don't understand the difference between using a private server and a private computer then you are either a moron or a bigger shill/troll than I imagined.

You can FOIA all the members of the GOP's personal emails right now. Unless they used a private server (which is doubtful) those emails are retrievable.

Hillary shielded hers from FOIA and the government.

 

[VolsNSkinsFan]

It's like House of Cards, or something. I'd love to know what kind of ish led up to Obama throwing her under the bus like this.

Hillary started the whole Birther thing. Also the Clintons blamed Nov14 on 0bama. Also the Clintons are center left and 0 is solid left

 

[CSpindizzy]

This is what really kills me. Rand goes and makes this claim:

“I think she clearly broke the law,” Paul, a likely 2016 GOP presidential candidate, said.

If this is truly the case, you've set the bar of what needs to happen. At minimum she should be prosecuted based on this bar being set. Why do Republicans do this? They come out with a claim, never do anything with it, and then complain about it for years. If she is truly guilty of breaking the law according to Rand, he and the rest of the GOP better darn well do their job and go after her. If nothing happens to Hillary, then they have made themselves accomplices to the crime she allegedly committed. Don't make claims unless you are willing to see that claim through.

Rand: Hillary 'Clearly Broke The Law' With Secret Email Setup

 

[lawgator1]

1. You still haven't answered whether your believe her "convenience" story.

Not exactly as she told it. I suspect that at the beginning it was a control thing, and back then, when it was set up, no one was thinking in terms of preservation of communications. And from there it was likely a matter of habit, as much as it was control.

The issue in my mind is her claim that she provided all of the work emails to State. Ideally, she would allow an independent examination to confirm that. It would be limited to key words, perhaps email addresses to and from, that are work related.

Thing is, and everyone knows this, no matter what solution she offers, the GOP will claim it isn't good enough. The play is the thing. And so in that respect I understand why she is taking the position she is.



2. If you don't understand the difference between using a private server and a private computer then you are either a moron or a bigger shill/troll than I imagined.

I understand it. So? This has been discussed. You make it sound like the point, itself, is meaningful, and it isn't.

You can FOIA all the members of the GOP's personal emails right now. Unless they used a private server (which is doubtful) those emails are retrievable.

Hillary shielded hers from FOIA and the government.

You assume she did because you do not believe her claim that she provided a copy of all of her work emails to State. I assume that all GOPers at least once used personal email for work.

Your solution -- a forensic examination of her computer -- is my solution as to the GOP claims that they preserved all emails, too.

What's good for the goose ...

 

[37L1]

You assume she did because you do not believe her claim that she provided a copy of all of her work emails to State. I assume that all GOPers at least once used personal email for work.

Your solution -- a forensic examination of her computer -- is my solution as to the GOP claims that they preserved all emails, too.

What's good for the goose ...

So float that suggestion to your sister Nancy Pelosi. Let's see if that nutbag agrees with your astute assessment.

How's your FOIA requests going?

 

[37L1]

This is what really kills me. Rand goes and makes this claim:



If this is truly the case, you've set the bar of what needs to happen. At minimum she should be prosecuted based on this bar being set. Why do Republicans do this? They come out with a claim, never do anything with it, and then complain about it for years. If she is truly guilty of breaking the law according to Rand, he and the rest of the GOP better darn well do their job and go after her. If nothing happens to Hillary, then they have made themselves accomplices to the crime she allegedly committed. Don't make claims unless you are willing to see that claim through.

Rand: Hillary 'Clearly Broke The Law' With Secret Email Setup

Prosecution for those "crimes" rests with the Department of Justice.

What do you think Holder or his predecessor are likely to do?

 

[CSpindizzy]

Prosecution for those "crimes" rests with the Department of Justice.

What do you think Holder or his predecessor are likely to do?

So you are saying Congress has no ability to do anything at all? Then shut down all the Issa and Gowdy investigations. And all the others. Either back up the claims or just shut up. To put this solely in the lap of Holder or his successor is weak as well.

 

[lawgator1]

So you are saying Congress has no ability to do anything at all? Then shut down all the Issa and Gowdy investigations. And all the others. Either back up the claims or just shut up. To put this solely in the lap of Holder or his successor is weak as well.

Don't you see? He can whine about exactly that and keep those checks coming in from the screeecher base.

 

[utvolpj]

I understand it. So? This has been discussed. You make it sound like the point, itself, is meaningful, and it isn't.

Your solution -- a forensic examination of her computer -- is my solution as to the GOP claims that they preserved all emails, too.

What's good for the goose ...

These 2 statements show you absolutely do not understand it as you claim. You don't have a clue what you're asking for

 

[hog88]

So you are saying Congress has no ability to do anything at all? Then shut down all the Issa and Gowdy investigations. And all the others. Either back up the claims or just shut up. To put this solely in the lap of Holder or his successor is weak as well.

How is it not solely in the DOJs lap? The most congress can do is hold her in contempt and turn it over to the DOJ, like they did Louis Learner. I've missed it if it's happened but I don't recall seeing her being arrested.

 

[CSpindizzy]

How is it not solely in the DOJs lap? The most congress can do is hold her in contempt and turn it over to the DOJ, like they did Louis Learner. I've missed it if it's happened but I don't recall seeing her being arrested.

Again, are you saying Congress has no oversight and investigative abilities? If not, then shut down all the hearings. If they have no power why all the Issa and Gowdy puffery? I think they have the ability to dig and to even use the public as a means of changing polls and opinions. You're acting as if Congress is neutered. If it is, then have the usual suspects shut up and get on with the public business. If it is not, then do everything at its disposal to see this is addressed. It's just like Boehner coming out and whining about something and then just rolling over. The only purpose this serves is to save face among the base and dump some change in the campaign coffers. Self serving. But if Paul & Co. truly cared this would be about more than just a statement. There would be some worthwhile action tied to it. Frankly, I think these guys are just content with rallying the base they keep losing and the "sign my petition to stop Hillary now" nonsense of capturing emails for their own use to fundraise and to sell to vendors for a quick buck.

 

[lawgator1]

This has zero to do with impropriety. 100 % to do with the appearance of impropriety. They don't want any answers. Never have, about Benghazi or otherwise. They just hope that by asking questions they make it appear as though there's something amiss.

If has become their go to play. It's their Tebow off center.

 

[hog88]

Again, are you saying Congress has no oversight and investigative abilities? If not, then shut down all the hearings. If they have no power why all the Issa and Gowdy puffery? I think they have the ability to dig and to even use the public as a means of changing polls and opinions. You're acting as if Congress is neutered. If it is, then have the usual suspects shut up and get on with the public business. If it is not, then do everything at its disposal to see this is addressed. It's just like Boehner coming out and whining about something and then just rolling over. The only purpose this serves is to save face among the base and dump some change in the campaign coffers. Self serving. But if Paul & Co. truly cared this would be about more than just a statement. There would be some worthwhile action tied to it. Frankly, I think these guys are just content with rallying the base they keep losing and the "sign my petition to stop Hillary now" nonsense of capturing emails for their own use to fundraise and to sell to vendors for a quick buck.

Just what do you suggest they do? Congress doesn't have arrest or prosecutorial powers. If the DOJ will not do their job, congress has their hands tied.

I guess they could defund the DOJ, now that would be fun.

 

[hog88]

This has zero to do with impropriety. 100 % to do with the appearance of impropriety. They don't want any answers. Never have, about Benghazi or otherwise. They just hope that by asking questions they make it appear as though there's something amiss.

If has become their go to play. It's their Tebow off center.

If nothing is amiss, why try so hard to hide?

 

[lawgator1]

If nothing is amiss, why try so hard to hide?

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[hog88]

thank you for proving my point.

whut?

 

[CSpindizzy]

Just what do you suggest they do? Congress doesn't have arrest or prosecutorial powers. If the DOJ will not do their job, congress has their hands tied.

I guess they could defund the DOJ, now that would be fun.

Not sure if you are intentionally missing what I am saying or not. I'll go one more round of saying if they admit there is nothing they can do then shut down all the hearings by which are pointless (if you are correct). They should shut up and move on to actually doing the people's business. If hands are truly tied on doing anything then why bother? Issa's made a career out of proving his hands aren't tied...or hands tied meaning nothing to him.

 

[hog88]

Not sure if you are intentionally missing what I am saying or not. I'll go one more round of saying if they admit there is nothing they can do then shut down all the hearings by which are pointless (if you are correct). They should shut up and move on to actually doing the people's business. If hands are truly tied on doing anything then why bother? Issa's made a career out of proving his hands aren't tied...or hands tied meaning nothing to him.

I guess you are missing my point.