Homosexuals in the military demand special privileges

[volmaverick]

You do know that the "incest creates certain illnesses" argument is absolutely false according to modern genetics, right?

All that incest does is concentrate the gene pool; thus, if one is already a carrier for a certain disease/genetic trait, incest magnifies the chances that such a trait will be manifested in the offspring.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wizzzzzzzzzz

Thank God that makes it better...LOL

 

[n_huffhines]

Why would it be? Is it covered in some document somewhere that I haven't seen?

A "right" by definition is a legal guarantee. Straights have a legal guarantee that they can marry. Gays do not. So yes we straights enjoy rights that gays do not enjoy.

 

[n_huffhines]

Incest!!!!

Who will pay for the treatment of the sick kids they have?

They don't have to be married to have children. The law doesn't necessarily change anything in that regard.

Also, with a small government that does not interfere with marriage we are more likely to have a society where individuals carry their own burdens, so the parents will pay for the treatments.

 

[therealUT]

consenting adults????

Thats the key with you people no matter how sick the act is!

That is the key. Freedom, have you heard of it?

Read it; you might learn something.

 

[milohimself]

The point that seems to be lost on that with some in this thread is that marriage = contracts and property, eg things nearly everybody here would likely agree should fall within the purview of government.

 

[n_huffhines]

The point that seems to be lost on that with some in this thread is that marriage = contracts and property, eg things nearly everybody here would likely agree should fall within the purview of government.

Nearly everyone . I prefer private arbitration handle these things. Getting a divorce in Utah, and you're a man?....the government judges will favor your wife. You pretty much have to prove abuse to get equal/more custody.

 

[milohimself]

Nearly everyone . I prefer private arbitration handle these things. Getting a divorce in Utah, and you're a man?....the government judges will favor your wife. You pretty much have to prove abuse to get equal/more custody.

But then who enforces the terms of a contract?

 

[BearCat204]

consenting adults????

Thats the key with you people no matter how sick the act is!

Its called incest and you support it!

You are OK with Mom and Son next to u with their little retarded kids in yard from incest sex...wow u need help

I don't support incest nor do I support a homosexual lifestyle.. I do support a persons right to make that choice for themselves and the freedom to do so.

 

[BearCat204]

Nearly everyone . I prefer private arbitration handle these things. Getting a divorce in Utah, and you're a man?....the government judges will favor your wife. You pretty much have to prove abuse to get equal/more custody.

You have just sent a beacon to Ras

 

[utvolpj]

consenting adults????

Thats the key with you people no matter how sick the act is!

why do you think it's the government's role to limit the rights of its citizens?

 

[82_VOL_83]

You, because you are a heterosexual male, have property and contractual rights that homosexuals do not.

That's BS and you know it. There is absolutely NOTHING that gays don't have now. Just because you want to call a civil union something other than a civil union gay rights are infringed upon.

Here is a bold prediction for you. Barry will manage to get a Supreme Court ruling that marriage can be between same sex couples. A group in California will sue a church because a pastor or priest refuses to "marry" them. Bingo, there goes tax exemption status for churches in this country that refuse to ACCEPT homosexuality and with that the dissolution of many places of worship. Yeah, far fetched I know, but when I was a kid I couldn't imagine a day when the Pledge of Allegiance would be BANNED from schools and public places or that someone would make a case against a prayer before a football game asking God to keep the kids safe. But you know how that turned out. Remember what I have posted many times here. The government already legislates tolerance, the current socialist regime is just waiting for ways to legislate acceptance.

 

[milohimself]

That's BS and you know it. There is absolutely NOTHING that gays don't have now. Just because you want to call a civil union something other than a civil union gay rights are infringed upon.

Federal law explicitly states that only heterosexual couples are allowed to enter into the contractual/legal arrangement that constitutes marriage.

I don't know where you're getting the BS from. Straight people are privy to property and legal rights that gay people are not. This is a matter of fact.

Here is a bold prediction for you. Barry will manage to get a Supreme Court ruling that marriage can be between same sex couples. A group in California will sue a church because a pastor or priest refuses to "marry" them. Bingo, there goes tax exemption status for churches in this country that refuse to ACCEPT homosexuality and with that the dissolution of many places of worship. Yeah, far fetched I know, but when I was a kid I couldn't imagine a day when the Pledge of Allegiance would be BANNED from schools and public places or that someone would make a case against a prayer before a football game asking God to keep the kids safe. But you know how that turned out. Remember what I have posted many times here. The government already legislates tolerance, the current socialist regime is just waiting for ways to legislate acceptance.

You've been reading too many gsvol posts.

I'll be over here in the land of reason and reasonableness. Come visit sometime.

 

[VOLatile]

Allowing GAYS to MARRY will DESTROY the UNITED STATES! We can't let that happen people! If the mooslim Obama forces the Supreme Court to allow gays to marry, then they will certainly abolish STRAIGHT marriage and the Mexicans will then invade. CAN YOU SPEAK SPANISH?!

 

[therealUT]

That's BS and you know it. There is absolutely NOTHING that gays don't have now. Just because you want to call a civil union something other than a civil union gay rights are infringed upon.

You should read the Amendment that just passed in North Carolina.

Here is a bold prediction for you. Barry will manage to get a Supreme Court ruling that marriage can be between same sex couples. A group in California will sue a church because a pastor or priest refuses to "marry" them. Bingo, there goes tax exemption status for churches in this country that refuse to ACCEPT homosexuality and with that the dissolution of many places of worship.

Churches should pay taxes.

Yeah, far fetched I know, but when I was a kid I couldn't imagine a day when the Pledge of Allegiance would be BANNED from schools and public places or that someone would make a case against a prayer before a football game asking God to keep the kids safe.

Pledge should be banned, and my stance has nothing to do with the fact that "God" was added to it in the 1950s. The pledge should be banned because we should not be forcing our children to pledge blind loyalty to anything.

But you know how that turned out. Remember what I have posted many times here. The government already legislates tolerance, the current socialist regime is just waiting for ways to legislate acceptance.

Wrong.

 

[Danl]

You should read the Amendment that just passed in North Carolina.



Churches should pay taxes.



Pledge should be banned, and my stance has nothing to do with the fact that "God" was added to it in the 1950s. The pledge should be banned because we should not be forcing our children to pledge blind loyalty to anything.



Wrong.

This +1,000,000

 

[PKT_VOL]

That's BS and you know it. There is absolutely NOTHING that gays don't have now. Just because you want to call a civil union something other than a civil union gay rights are infringed upon.

Here is a bold prediction for you. Barry will manage to get a Supreme Court ruling that marriage can be between same sex couples. A group in California will sue a church because a pastor or priest refuses to "marry" them. Bingo, there goes tax exemption status for churches in this country that refuse to ACCEPT homosexuality and with that the dissolution of many places of worship. Yeah, far fetched I know, but when I was a kid I couldn't imagine a day when the Pledge of Allegiance would be BANNED from schools and public places or that someone would make a case against a prayer before a football game asking God to keep the kids safe. But you know how that turned out. Remember what I have posted many times here. The government already legislates tolerance, the current socialist regime is just waiting for ways to legislate acceptance.

There is so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to start.

I guess I'll just write it off as a Glen having a bit to much to drink before the UGA game.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I think it is perfectly okay for the state to sanction the actions of consenting adults. If a son and his mother want to marry each other, who are you to say that they should be stopped?

Nice example for trying to prove your point and the legitimacy of your relationship

 

[Carl Pickens]

You do know that the "incest creates certain illnesses" argument is absolutely false according to modern genetics, right?

All that incest does is concentrate the gene pool; thus, if one is already a carrier for a certain disease/genetic trait, incest magnifies the chances that such a trait will be manifested in the offspring.

I don't suppose you consider chromosomal abnormalities constitute illness

 

[PKT_VOL]

Nice example for trying to prove your point and the legitimacy of your relationship

lulz @ your attempts to outwit TRUT.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I don't suppose you consider chromosomal abnormalities constitute illness

That is only after a number of insist encounters. One random incest encounter would not have any statistical increase in homozygous recessive genes unless it was already heavily in the family.

 

[Carl Pickens]

That is only after a number of insist encounters. One random incest encounter would not have any statistical increase in homozygous recessive genes unless it was already heavily in the family.

So are you trying to say you're NOT retarded?

 

[82_VOL_83]

You should read the Amendment that just passed in North Carolina.

I am for civil unions. Marriage has two parts. Legal and that established by the church. Unfortunately, that has never been spelled out before because I guess we never thought that it would get to this. Civil Unions are fine, just don't call them marriage.

Churches should pay taxes.

Why? People with your beliefs (or lack thereof) believe in the separation of church and state. Via that set of beliefs, churches should be outside the purview of the government.

Pledge should be banned, and my stance has nothing to do with the fact that "God" was added to it in the 1950s. The pledge should be banned because we should not be forcing our children to pledge blind loyalty to anything.

Sorry, but if you aren't loyal to the U.S. and what it stands for (or used to stand for before it didn't stand for anything), you really should consider a major relocation. French Canada or France would love to have you.

Wrong.

Really? Barry has been trying to legislate acceptance of homosexuality since he has been in office. The removal of don't ask don't tell in the military is a fine example. Why is it important in the military to be able to proclaim to the world that you are gay? Being able to stand up and say I am gay and proud somehow makes you a better soldier? I think not. Don't ask Don't tell was tolerance, removal is legislating acceptance.

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[DinkinFlicka]

So are you trying to say you're NOT retarded?

Someone's bitter about the way his ma and pa/uncle procreated.

Also, have another drink Glen. A couple more bourbons and even you will start buying into that logic of yours.

 

[therealUT]

I am for civil unions. Marriage has two parts. Legal and that established by the church. Unfortunately, that has never been spelled out before because I guess we never thought that it would get to this. Civil Unions are fine, just don't call them marriage.

Two problems with this:
1. Same-sex Civil Unions are prohibited in some of the states.
2. Your history of the word 'marriage' is most likely false. I suggest you read into the history of marriage, across both cultures and time, before you state that 'marriage' as a term belongs to the church or any church.

This is a good book to start:
Marriage,a History: From Obedience to Intimacy,or How Love Conquered Marriage: Stephanie Coontz: 9780670034079: Amazon.com: Books

Why? People with your beliefs (or lack thereof) believe in the separation of church and state. Via that set of beliefs, churches should be outside the purview of the government.

Negative. One, you randomly assign me to some category. Two, the Constitution clearly states, in the First Amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Making a law that explicitly excludes religious organizations from paying taxes is a law "respecting an establishment of religion". Moreover, one can freely exercise their religion without purchasing property. If property is taxed and the religious want to purchase property, their property should be taxed.

Sorry, but if you aren't loyal to the U.S. and what it stands for (or used to stand for before it didn't stand for anything), you really should consider a major relocation. French Canada or France would love to have you.

I am not loyal to a flag or to a government; nor am I blindly loyal to the Republic. If it so happens that the vast majority of Americans decide to embrace enslaving and oppressing and entire race of persons, I should be loyal to that Republic? That is absolute nonsense.

Really? Barry has been trying to legislate acceptance of homosexuality since he has been in office. The removal of don't ask don't tell in the military is a fine example. Why is it important in the military to be able to proclaim to the world that you are gay? Being able to stand up and say I am gay and proud somehow makes you a better soldier? I think not. Don't ask Don't tell was tolerance, removal is legislating acceptance.

This is so full of malarkey. The repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell is the removal of barriers to entry; that is a far cry from legislating acceptance.

 

[PKT_VOL]

So are you trying to say you're NOT retarded?

Are you going to dispute facts or are you going to double down on your unfounded conjecture?