Hopson

#51
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Bassmanbruno said:
He was shooting 50% behind the arc a few games ago - although that average has dropped a bit since. Sure, he hasn't made 5 threes in a game like Tatum - but that's rare for any player.
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he's a quality shooter, regardless of Jakez' wordiness.
 
#52
#52
Bassmanbruno said:
Yes he has - just not the unrealistic ones who saw the #5 rated player next to his name on scout or rivals and assumed he'd be as great as Beasley and Durant since they were ranked right around there as well.

And - he had the flu last night - so he didn't see much time but made a few nice moves in his time in.
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Jordan and Kobe have had legendary performances with the flu. He should've dropped 40 last night. :p
 
#53
#53
Bassmanbruno said:
Yes he has - just not the unrealistic ones who saw the #5 rated player next to his name on scout or rivals and assumed he'd be as great as Beasley and Durant since they were ranked right around there as well.

And - he had the flu last night - so he didn't see much time but made a few nice moves in his time in.
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I never thought he'd be Durant or Beasley. Not once. However, I expected more. That's all. I'm not begging anyone to agree with me.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
I never thought he'd be Durant or Beasley. Not once. However, I expected more. That's all. I'm not begging anyone to agree with me.
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Durant and Beasley were thrown the ball and told the offense would run through them. Hopson hasn't had that luxury. In fact, there have been games when he got off to a hot start yet to find the bench for lengthy stretches. Pearl has been trying a rotation with too many players. He MUST get this down to 8 and maybe play another 2 guys for only a few minutes a game. Hopson is the type player that needs to play a lot of minutes in order to establish some continuity and rhythm
 
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#55
truefan said:
Durant and Beasley were thrown the ball and told the offense would run through them. Hopson hasn't had that luxury. In fact, there have been games when he got off to a hot start yet to find the bench for lengthy stretches. Pearl has been trying a rotation with too many players. He MUST get this down to 8 and maybe play another 2 guys for only a few minutes a game. Hopson is the type player that needs to play a lot of minutes in order to establish some continuity and rhythm
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Scotty's lack of defensive effort / focus has definitely had something to do with his minutes as well.
 
#56
#56
I was actually pretty impressed with Hopson's play against the Zags. He made some niced plays for being so obviously sick.

I agree that he needs more time to develop, but it still seems like he could give more effort on defense. I wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with him getting burned on defense if it looked like he was giving his all, but that's definitely not the case right now. I guess it takes awhile to break bad habits, though.
 
#57
#57
BigPapaVol said:
Scotty's lack of defensive effort / focus has definitely had something to do with his minutes as well.
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I do agree with your statement, but Durant and Beasley were both very weak defenders as well. If Scotty were getting the minutes, he would be our leading scorer and the consistent outside threat we need.
 
#58
#58
It COULD be possible that Scotty overhyped himself. I mean, he was projected to be a one and done, and now, reality has come in that he won't be. At least, I'm pretty sure he won't be (good for us though). If you're trying to be that one-and-done like everyone thought he would be, you're going to take shots, and you're going to try to be that star player, and it just hasn't worked for him. He's got the talent, and he's got the ability, but he's not playing with rhythm, and he's not letting the plays come to him. If he starts becoming a slasher, and driving to the basketball, and using the pure God-given athleticism he has, then he'll get some separation on the perimeter and can drain the three. But, right now, he's not doing jack except an occasional steal and reverse dunk which makes us ooh and ahh a little bit. He's getting better, he's getting tougher, but he's just another freshman learning the system, and learning that in an offense like Bruce Pearl's, you're not gonna be the star, you're not gonna get out in one year, and you're going to have to earn your baskets, because you've got 4 other guys capable of scoring just as much as you. He will get there, and I think as he takes more of a leadership role, we'll see his composure come out, and we'll see him become more comfortable.
 
#59
#59
BigPapaVol said:
I, too, question exactly what we focus on in practice. Our offense is a disorganized mess and defense nonexistent. Must spend our entire time defensing inbounds passes.
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This is ridiculous. Our offense is fine scheme wise. We are getting wide open shots over and over. We are not hitting them period. It is not the scheme at all not the execution as far as passing or setting up shots. They are there. We are scoring decently without hitting shots. Imagine if we actually hit more of those completely wide open shots we are entirely clanking.

On defense we are undisciplined I agree. But the veterans are playing well so that works against your Pearl argument. It is the Fresh and Soph players that did not play last year that are all over the place and out of position. Prince's D is fine as is Smith's. Hopson is dreadful on D right now. Woolridge and Negedu are giving a lot of energy but are thinking too much which is normal when you are learning.

So do you want to get rid of Pearl? Go back to being a nothing program in Men's Basketball. Because your arguments are not based in fact in my eyes. You are intelligent and I am sure will come back with something that diverts the main issue. You have some kind of issue with Pearl beyond his coaching ability.
 
#60
#60
Jewbaccah said:
This is ridiculous. Our offense is fine scheme wise. We are getting wide open shots over and over. We are not hitting them period. It is not the scheme at all not the execution as far as passing or setting up shots. They are there. We are scoring decently without hitting shots. Imagine if we actually hit more of those completely wide open shots we are entirely clanking.

On defense we are undisciplined I agree. But the veterans are playing well so that works against your Pearl argument. It is the Fresh and Soph players that did not play last year that are all over the place and out of position. Prince's D is fine as is Smith's. Hopson is dreadful on D right now. Woolridge and Negedu are giving a lot of energy but are thinking too much which is normal when you are learning.

So do you want to get rid of Pearl? Go back to being a nothing program in Men's Basketball. Because your arguments are not based in fact in my eyes. You are intelligent and I am sure will come back with something that diverts the main issue. You have some kind of issue with Pearl beyond his coaching ability.
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Prince's defense is so "fine" that it made Matt Bouldin look like Larry Bird.
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#61
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hatvol96 said:
Prince's defense is so "fine" that it made Matt Bouldin look like Larry Bird.
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First, I never said his D was great. I totally agree our main problem is on D. Although, it would be less noticed if we hit some shots whereas we would out score anyone in the SEC.

Second, we play zone and different people pick up people on the perimeter. Bouldin had like 4 threes I think. That is where our D struggles the most and at the point. A good PG is killing us right now. Prince makes mental mistakes but generally his Defense is sound he is certainly not the main problem on D.

Tabb is not a lockdown guy IMO and Maze needs to focus on his D as well. That is where it all starts. Negedu and Woolridge show flashes of what they are going to be on D but get out of position too often. Hopson is non existent on D he is truly ready for the NBA. He is the one player on the team whose attitude need adjustment. He is young. And I think he was hoping to be an automatic stud and then go pro. Now he is wondering how good he really is. We need to get him his mojo back hopefully he breaks out soon.

The players are neurotic on D. They are thinking and not playing. Clearly it is the focus of practice right now. I think it is related to the shooting problem as well. If we can start to play D better the shooting will follow and this team has a very high maximum potential.

My point is that the rag on Pearl thing I have seen on here is outrageous. :hi:
 
#63
#63
Jewbaccah said:
This is ridiculous. Our offense is fine scheme wise. We are getting wide open shots over and over. We are not hitting them period. It is not the scheme at all not the execution as far as passing or setting up shots. They are there. We are scoring decently without hitting shots. Imagine if we actually hit more of those completely wide open shots we are entirely clanking.

On defense we are undisciplined I agree. But the veterans are playing well so that works against your Pearl argument. It is the Fresh and Soph players that did not play last year that are all over the place and out of position. Prince's D is fine as is Smith's. Hopson is dreadful on D right now. Woolridge and Negedu are giving a lot of energy but are thinking too much which is normal when you are learning.

So do you want to get rid of Pearl? Go back to being a nothing program in Men's Basketball. Because your arguments are not based in fact in my eyes. You are intelligent and I am sure will come back with something that diverts the main issue. You have some kind of issue with Pearl beyond his coaching ability.
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I want Pearl to make it work, but we clearly have some issues there.

If we aren't running with the ball, our offense is lost and outside of the press, we play little D.

Our base man offense appears to be a flex, out of which we screen poorly, cut lazily and endup awaiting a bomb that we make at about 10% clip or an individual move to the hole. Against a zone, we appear to have no offense. You mentioned our open looks, but they're all threes and it just isn't very hard to get an open look at a 3 when you're known to be poor shooters. If we didn't offensive board and put back, we really would be putting up some awful scores. When the running stopped against UGA, they trounced us for 25 minutes.

The defense has been covered ad nauseum.
 
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#64
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From all the hype and pressure you would think Hopson was the 2nd coming of Bernard King the way he was portrayed in the media...He's STILL a kid with a lot of growing to do, don't be so quick to pass judgment on him...He's averaging almost double digits in scoring as it is, Give the kid a break and let him grow and stop acting like spoiled brat Kentucky fans.
 
#65
#65
VOLnMiami said:
From all the hype and pressure you would think Hopson was the 2nd coming of Bernard King the way he was portrayed in the media...He's STILL a kid with a lot of growing to do, don't be so quick to pass judgment on him...He's averaging almost double digits in scoring as it is, Give the kid a break and let him grow and stop acting like spoiled brat Kentucky fans.
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I never saw that much hype from the media - just from some of the dumb posters on here. I expected him to average 12-14 ppg.. he's obviously not quite there yet - but I could see it by the end of the year.
 
#66
#66
Jewbaccah said:
First, I never said his D was great. I totally agree our main problem is on D. Although, it would be less noticed if we hit some shots whereas we would out score anyone in the SEC.

Second, we play zone and different people pick up people on the perimeter. Bouldin had like 4 threes I think. That is where our D struggles the most and at the point. A good PG is killing us right now. Prince makes mental mistakes but generally his Defense is sound he is certainly not the main problem on D.

Tabb is not a lockdown guy IMO and Maze needs to focus on his D as well. That is where it all starts. Negedu and Woolridge show flashes of what they are going to be on D but get out of position too often. Hopson is non existent on D he is truly ready for the NBA. He is the one player on the team whose attitude need adjustment. He is young. And I think he was hoping to be an automatic stud and then go pro. Now he is wondering how good he really is. We need to get him his mojo back hopefully he breaks out soon.

The players are neurotic on D. They are thinking and not playing. Clearly it is the focus of practice right now. I think it is related to the shooting problem as well. If we can start to play D better the shooting will follow and this team has a very high maximum potential.

My point is that the rag on Pearl thing I have seen on here is outrageous. :hi:
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This post made very little sense, especially the piece about the shooting will come with better D.
 
#67
#67
BigPapaVol said:
This post made very little sense, especially the piece about the shooting will come with better D.
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I'm still confused about us playing zone extensively in the half-court, and that being the reason we can't guard the guards. I've missed some games, but that isn't what I have seen.
 
#68
#68
when hopson tries to score, hes great. hes got too much of a conscience, everytime he misses a shot, he gives up trying to score for a while and starts passing the ball right back as soon as it is passed to him.
 
#70
#70
BigPapaVol said:
This post made very little sense, especially the piece about the shooting will come with better D.
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Well it does. Do not know what to tell you that is how it works. When a team is playing in a rhythm all things come easier. You can just play and not think. You cannot think and shoot very well. If you are worried and unsure of what to do on D or if you are going to be out of position again on D then you are not playing in a rhythm. We are very choppy right now as a team. The source from my eyes is what is going on on the D side. Confidence is low swagger is not there. Your thought process on Pearl makes little sense to me. So maybe we are speaking different languages. Nanu Nanu
 
#71
#71
I'm getting so tired of Scotty Hopson. I try to stay out of the basketball talk but he's just making me angry watching him. He wants a pat on the back everytime he plays any type of defense. He also looks like he is trying to look like he's playing hard so he won't be placed on the bench. If he would play hard and go to the rim he would be outstanding for us. But until this happens he will be an enigma.
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#72
#72
Lockdown1 said:
I'm getting so tired of Scotty Hopson. I try to stay out of the basketball talk but he's just making me angry watching him. He wants a pat on the back everytime he plays any type of defense. He also looks like he is trying to look like he's playing hard so he won't be placed on the bench. If he would play hard and go to the rim he would be outstanding for us. But until this happens he will be an enigma.
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Who you going to bench him for Cameron Tatum? Lol. One of the only 2 defenders Hopson is better than?
 
#73
#73
I think Hopson will end up being a very good player, but he's clearly a bit overwhelmed by the college game right now. Some people adjust quicker than others though so you can't blame him for that.

He is the basketball equivalent of Robert Meachem at this point. Without the injuries.
 
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