How Did Louisville Get More D Talent Than UT?

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Voldemonium said:
Not to belabor the point but Lathers can't run. He just can't! And PWag is good for an interception every now and again but he's not a shutdown corner. I'll give you A.J. and a healthy Curt Maggit.

My question is why can other teams beat UF but we perpetually wet the bed. Ole Miss has done it. Miss St did it at the peak of Tebow. USC 2yrs running, and now LV.

We need players.
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So if we had the same talent and say....Brian Kelly coaching instead of Dooley and Sal, do you think we could have beaten UF or some other teams? It's coaching.
 
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PimpVol said:
What changes from season to season is your team, and the teams you play. Trying to compare last year and this year is pointless. Louisville and UT had a common opponent. The scores were polar opposites. They won a blowout. We lost a blowout. Disgree all you like. Then watch the games and get a dose of reality. We have little to no defensive talent. Louisville has enough to throttle Florida.
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You talk about reality, then make a comment stating we have NO DEFENSIVE TALENT. That is absurd. We had depth issues, and most of the depth issues were youth issues, not talent. How come we had to beat out top SEC schools for a big part of our defensive talent? Can you answer that? If they are not talented, why did other SEC coaches want them? I'd be willing to bet you can't give a good legit ament answer because it wouldn't go with your twisted logic.

On the other hand...UF beat A&M who beat Bama who beat USCe who smashed UGA who beat UF. So the common opponent thing is not the only thing that one can look at here. Syracuse absolutely MAULED Louisville this year. I mean it was bad. Where was the Louisville all-American squad on that day?
 
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RichRollin said:
So if we had the same talent and say....Brian Kelly coaching instead of Dooley and Sal, do you think we could have beaten UF or some other teams? It's coaching.
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And on the other side, you could take this past year's staff and give them the complete Alabama roster and I would speculate that they would not be in the NCS.
 
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Voldemonium said:
. . .I tend to classify things like taking proper angles toward a ball carrier, playing the ball in the air, and wraping up when tackling as fundamentals that a D-1 ball player should bring to college with him. Kinda like I don't expect Dave Serrano to teach outfielders how to catch a pop fly correctly or how to read a players swing and shade left or right as necessary. . .
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I agree with you absolutely in principle. But, I also believe that coaches at this level are being forced to teach these "fundamental" principles more now than ever.

Living up here in St. Louis, I enjoy keeping up with the Cardinals. They have a very storied history, and a lot of great baseball players have come through here. One of the recurring themes that you hear over and over from the coaching staff is how fundamentally unprepared modern players are. They are teaching professionals how to play baseball.

I think the same problem exists in football - especially since coaches want to stick to formulas. They figure if the guy is big, fast and strong that he will be a great player. They spend more time contemplating 40 times and bench presses than whether the player has the mental capacity, emotional toughness and work ethic to become the best football player he can be.

This is the primary reason you see 4 and 5 Star guys never make it through school and at the same time walk-ons become great players and see guys from East BFE U end up starting and playing 10 years in the NFL.
 
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thebjd said:
I think Strong would take our defensive talent over his at Louisville in a heartbeat. Our players were having to think too much... QUOTE]

And they were thinking, "this guy is out running me toward the goal line. I can't catch a cold." Do people actually ever actually quit thinking when they run?
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WiseOlVol said:
Anyone notice that Driskel, Burton and Gillislee weren't running down the sidelines all night vs. the Cards?

Florida tried only 2 end arounds and bootlegs and got crunched but good.

After a few tries early, Pease realized UL had real closing speed, and UF was left with playing it straight, at which they're not very good.

Speed has no slump, and we ain't got much (do we?) on D.
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LSU and Florida were not motivated to play in the bowl game they were in...They both missed out on the BCS Championship Game.....That will make a big difference in play.......Louisville had reason to play......Florida's D did :mf_surrender:not show up !!!!!
 
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JDogInDaHouse said:
MILF Hunter...imo. :)
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Kennedy like those young tenderonies too. I watch a show last night where they were interviewing a woman who was having an affair with him at a very very very young age. But messing with that big time mobster's girlfriend is where he really messed up.
 
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RichRollin said:
Kennedy like those young tenderonies too. I watch a show last night where they were interviewing a woman who was having an affair with him at a very very very young age. But messing with that big time mobster's girlfriend is where he really messed up.
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He messed up when he defied the military industrial complex. They wanted Vietnam, he did not. Trillions of dollars were at stake for the military industrial complex.[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4[/YOUTUBE]
 
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JDogInDaHouse said:
He messed up when he defied the military industrial complex. They wanted Vietnam, he did not. Trillions of dollars were at stake for the military industrial complex.[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4[/YOUTUBE]
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I don't disagree.
 
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Voldemonium said:
Not to belabor the point but Lathers can't run. He just can't! And PWag is good for an interception every now and again but he's not a shutdown corner. I'll give you A.J. and a healthy Curt Maggit.

My question is why can other teams beat UF but we perpetually wet the bed. Ole Miss has done it. Miss St did it at the peak of Tebow. USC 2yrs running, and now LV.

We need players.
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Right there with you on Florida (living in Tampa can be a pain). It just seems there are some teams that another team finds hard to beat. Michigan has troubles with Ohio State. And, our talent is 'below' upper-echelon SEC schools. But, I don't believe it is below UL.

A fair amount of it is mental going back to the Payton years and before. But your right, we've just got to get all the pieces together. Better coaching and better recruiting. I'm optimistic with Jones. But, if we have a year 'next year' like this past season? We're in a lot of trouble.
 
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RichRollin said:
You talk about reality, then make a comment stating we have NO DEFENSIVE TALENT. That is absurd. We had depth issues, and most of the depth issues were youth issues, not talent. How come we had to beat out top SEC schools for a big part of our defensive talent? Can you answer that? If they are not talented, why did other SEC coaches want them? I'd be willing to bet you can't give a good legit ament answer because it wouldn't go with your twisted logic.

On the other hand...UF beat A&M who beat Bama who beat USCe who smashed UGA who beat UF. So the common opponent thing is not the only thing that one can look at here. Syracuse absolutely MAULED Louisville this year. I mean it was bad. Where was the Louisville all-American squad on that day?
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Ok. Who do you want from UT's 2012 defensive roster to start a team with? I'll wait.....
Now, look at who the top schools recruited (LSU, UA, UGA &UF) in the past three years. Who did we get that they wanted? Who did they get that we wanted? Exactly. I would take their defensive roster over ours anyday. Because they have more talent than we do currently.
 
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PimpVol said:
Ok. Who do you want from UT's 2012 defensive roster to start a team with? I'll wait.....
Now, look at who the top schools recruited (LSU, UA, UGA &UF) in the past three years. Who did we get that they wanted? Who did they get that we wanted? Exactly. I would take their defensive roster over ours anyday. Because they have more talent than we do currently.
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Who on Lousville's d-line would you take for McCullers, Sentimore, Couch or even J Smith? Which linebacker from their team would you trade for AJ or Curt? I think all of these were recruited by the big boys. Byron Moore is another one I think can be very good next year that was highly recruited.
 
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PimpVol said:
Ok. Who do you want from UT's 2012 defensive roster to start a team with? I'll wait.....
Now, look at who the top schools recruited (LSU, UA, UGA &UF) in the past three years. Who did we get that they wanted? Who did they get that we wanted? Exactly. I would take their defensive roster over ours anyday. Because they have more talent than we do currently.
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Give me a few minutes to finish what I'm doing and I'll answer your question for you. But I just named a bunch of guys who were highly recruited by the big boys. But I'll go further in depth, but it's gonna take a few minutes.

Oh yeah, by the way....the question was if Louisville had more talent than UT, not Bama, UF, LSU.

Better yet, why waste my time when you can look it up yourself. Many of our defensive players were highly recruited by the big boys. Look it up and you will see. No way ALL of these players were busts. Don't happen that way. The coaches SUCKED! Simple and plain.
 
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When you have 36 kids from the state of Florida that are comprising your roster---and a big time QB like Bridgewater (who spurned some major schools to go to Louisville) then it's easy to see why they won. If anything it tells me that once again we had an excellent chance to beat Florida and it further emphasizes the awfulness of the Sunseri hire. Florida's offense wasn't as great as their defense. We were truly putrid on defense.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
Anyone notice that Driskel, Burton and Gillislee weren't running down the sidelines all night vs. the Cards?

Florida tried only 2 end arounds and bootlegs and got crunched but good.

After a few tries early, Pease realized UL had real closing speed, and UF was left with playing it straight, at which they're not very good.

Speed has no slump, and we ain't got much (do we?) on D.
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Defensive recruits Hate us.....
 
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thebjd said:
Who on Lousville's d-line would you take for McCullers, Sentimore, Couch or even J Smith? Which linebacker from their team would you trade for AJ or Curt? I think all of these were recruited by the big boys. Byron Moore is another one I think can be very good next year that was highly recruited.
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AJ is vastly overrated. Curt is legit. Sentimore and Couch are decent, but not bigtime. Big Dan is a keeper. Byron Moore blew more picks than he made this year. Overall, I will take Louisville's defensive effort over ours against Florida.
 
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RichRollin said:
Give me a few minutes to finish what I'm doing and I'll answer your question for you. But I just named a bunch of guys who were highly recruited by the big boys. But I'll go further in depth, but it's gonna take a few minutes.

Oh yeah, by the way....the question was if Louisville had more talent than UT, not Bama, UF, LSU.

Better yet, why waste my time when you can look it up yourself. Many of our defensive players were highly recruited by the big boys. Look it up and you will see. No way ALL of these players were busts. Don't happen that way. The coaches SUCKED! Simple and plain.
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Don't waste your time. UT is not a talented defense. Has not been for awhile. No hitters. No cover guys. Just a bland, average defense. One that is bottom half of this league.
 
#99
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We are on par with Louisville's talent but haven't done a good job of developing our talent. CBJ will change that!
 
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TNV said:
Not taking up for Sal at all because he was horrible but you cannot coach SPEED and we lack it
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Sal had more size, strength, and speed on his defense than Wilcox had the previous two years.

Evidently Wilcox can coach SPEED and Sal can uncoach SPEED.
 
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