I Miss BP

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I don't miss Pearl and why in the world would we just wait out the three years? Bruce screwed up and we needed to move on. We lost on the road to Georgetown by one point, it's not at all like we were run out of the gym. If we'd have won this ugly game by one the posts on here would read much differently. My biggest problem with this team and teams in past years (Pearl's included) is poor free throw shooting. If we were only 5-11 from the line (still a crappy percentage) we win that game.
 
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thagodfather said:
You can analyze Pearl's recruiting the way that you want but at the end of the day it's all about wins. Pearl's record speaks for itself. He made a dumb mistake that cost him his job but the Bruce Pearl era was fun and exciting for our program. What he done while he was here will be tough to duplicate. The Tennessee basketball program has never been a Duke/Kentucky type program but by reading some posts here insulting Pearl's accomplishments, one would think that it was. He done things at UT that has never been done, yet Coach Martin is being praised already and his first team didn't make the tournament. I'm a fan of Coach Martin and I believe that he will be successful here but to say that he's better than Pearl at this time, is ridiculous when measuring career accomplishments thus far.
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Amen.

Pearl made a dumb mistake; but it amazes me how Tennessee fans talk bad about his coaching; he was outstanding as far as I am concerned and a Tennessee legend. Heck, nobody wanted the Tennessee job when he took it. He was advised by others not to take it and he won at Tennessee from day 1.

I am a Tennessee fan and want Martin to succeed. I hope he equals and exceeds Pearl's records.
 
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LibertyVol said:
I can't remember to many times Pearl's Tennessee teams scored only 36 points in a game. Pearl was a great coach. I hope Martin succeeds, but I don't see him doing as well as Pearl at this point. He is already behind his record at Tennesse in that he did not make the NCAAs last year. If Tennessee does not get better at attacking a zone defense they may not make it this year.
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Me and my best friend have had this argument many times and here's my take even though I see both sides... Pearl had Lofton, Smith, Patterson, Stanley, CJ, and Dane to build upon his first year. He ran a system just like Arkansas does this year. Press and cause TOs like crazy and get easy points. We had unbelievable guard play. CJ, Smith, and Lofton were arguable the best guard combination we have had in 20-30 years IMO. We are talking about having one of the best of the best shooters to ever wear a Vol jersey. He single handley won us the FL game that year. He helped us beat Texas at Texas along with Smith that game and out played Durant at home and beat Texas again. This is a guy who was a machine and if he was on this team we'd be a Sweet 16 team no questions asked. Stokes would have one on one play every time down floor because everyone would have to guard Lofton. Pearl won with Wingate at C! Imagine what would happen when you put Lofton with a Stokes. Lofton simply makes offense easy.
 
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LibertyVol said:
I can't remember to many times Pearl's Tennessee teams scored only 36 points in a game. Pearl was a great coach. I hope Martin succeeds, but I don't see him doing as well as Pearl at this point. He is already behind his record at Tennesse in that he did not make the NCAAs last year. If Tennessee does not get better at attacking a zone defense they may not make it this year.
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I don't miss that liar one bit. I wish him nothing but the best but i love our defense and the way that we play. I'll support my coach. We lost to a team that took the best team in the nation to ot. Would we have seen this statement had we hit the 3 and won the game??
 
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blackflag said:
I don't miss Pearl and why in the world would we just wait out the three years? Bruce screwed up and we needed to move on. We lost on the road to Georgetown by one point, it's not at all like we were run out of the gym. If we'd have won this ugly game by one the posts on here would read much differently. My biggest problem with this team and teams in past years (Pearl's included) is poor free throw shooting. If we were only 5-11 from the line (still a crappy percentage) we win that game.
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It's simple Pearl became IMO a star gazer. Having great 5 star players is great, but most of them aren't great shooters but rather scores. There is a difference. We haven't went after pure shooters because many go under the reader such as Jenkins from Vandy etc. I hope Martin understands what is at stake here, but this year is the year he truly should be trailed on as a recruiter. Hubbs was a solid get. I love the Landry signing and Davis is our 8 ball. I hope Martin will find us a go to shooter who can knock down FT in clutch situations. One pure shooter who is nothing more then a spot up guy and hard worker on defense that can go on avg 3-7 from three a game changes this team in such a positive way.
 
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SCowlsVOL said:
I don't miss that liar one bit. I wish him nothing but the best but i love our defense and the way that we play. I'll support my coach. We lost to a team that took the best team in the nation to ot. Would we have seen this statement had we hit the 3 and won the game??
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Probably not. But Mr. Martin better kick it in gear or his butt needs to go back where it came from. Whether you like the liar or not he has set the standard. I have not seen all the SEC teams play, but the league is obviously not very strong. You are probably only looking at 4 maybe 5 teams from the SEC making the tournament. Kentucky, Florida and probably Missouri are in. If Tennessee does not win these type games then there is a strong possibility they will not get in.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Probably not. But Mr. Martin better kick it in gear or his butt needs to go back where it came from. Whether you like the liar or not he has set the standard. I have not seen all the SEC teams play, but the league is obviously not very strong. You are probably only looking at 4 maybe 5 teams from the SEC making the tournament. Kentucky, Florida and probably Missouri are in. If Tennessee does not win these type games then there is a strong possibility they will not get in.
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Has our bubble already burst??You're acting like we are on the bubble already. You also are acting like Georgetown is a walk in the park as well. Considering we held them to the lowest score that they have had in yrs, then i feel pretty good. Also considering we are doing this without Maymon i think we'll be fine. He did a great job last yr considering where we were predicted to be. We haven't even gotten to conference play and you are already worrying. I'll worry when it gets time if it gets to that point.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
What?? Where were you when the Pearl was coach? You missed a lot of good offense.
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If you put Chris Lofton and JaJuan Smith -- two guys Pearl inherited -- on this year's UT team, there would be some offense too. Pearl's teams were helpless in the half court once those two guys graduated.
 
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LibertyVol said:
I can't remember to many times Pearl's Tennessee teams scored only 36 points in a game. Pearl was a great coach. I hope Martin succeeds, but I don't see him doing as well as Pearl at this point. He is already behind his record at Tennesse in that he did not make the NCAAs last year. If Tennessee does not get better at attacking a zone defense they may not make it this year.
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Pearl inherited a much better roster from Buzz Peterson than Martin inherited from Pearl. Considering that Pearl had a reputation as a good recruiter, that's pretty pathetic.
 
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SCowlsVOL said:
Has our bubble already burst??You're acting like we are on the bubble already. You also are acting like Georgetown is a walk in the park as well. Considering we held them to the lowest score that they have had in yrs, then i feel pretty good. Also considering we are doing this without Maymon i think we'll be fine. He did a great job last yr considering where we were predicted to be. We haven't even gotten to conference play and you are already worrying. I'll worry when it gets time if it gets to that point.
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It does not matter if Georgetown is a great team or not. Tennessee lost and whether you lost by one or twenty makes no difference come NCAA time. I am worried to some extent because even if Tennessee has a great conference season (and I do think they will) it may not be enough considering the weakness of the league. I don't think Maymon is going to play this year and if he does he is not going to be effective until later in the year.
 
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LibertyVol said:
It does not matter if Georgetown is a great team or not. Tennessee lost and whether you lost by one or twenty makes no difference come NCAA time. I am worried to some extent because even if Tennessee has a great conference season (and I do think they will) it may not be enough considering the weakness of the league. I don't think Maymon is going to play this year and if he does he is not going to be effective until later in the year.
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Actually, I think it does make a difference.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If you put Chris Lofton and JaJuan Smith -- two guys Pearl inherited -- on this year's UT team, there would be some offense too. Pearl's teams were helpless in the half court once those two guys graduated.
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What an uninformed post. We were so helpless in the half court Pearl almost made the Elite Eight without those great guards.

If you put Goins on this team they win. If you put Chism on this team, they win.

If Pearl coached this team they win. Pearl was a better coach hands down. I hope we get him back before someone else in the SEC gets him. He will coach again and successfully. Zo does not gameplan well at all....so far.
 
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CM will be fine, we have some good recruits coming in (hubbs etc...), we are also currently without Maymon, a pretty decent scorer inside. With Maymon we would have had better offense down low tonight and would have won the game.

Get off Zo's back damn.....I know its bad in Volnation right now with the football program in the tank etc....but we are a good team with some decent young talent and more on the way.

We lost on the road by one point....yea so what we only scored 36, they only scored 37. bid effing deal. Our defense was great, just need to hit FT's and take better % shots from the floor, (not so many 3's IMO). We will be fine and give many teams in the SEC fits this season. just be patient guys c'mon. GBO VFL.
 
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LibertyVol said:
It does not matter if Georgetown is a great team or not. Tennessee lost and whether you lost by one or twenty makes no difference come NCAA time. I am worried to some extent because even if Tennessee has a great conference season (and I do think they will) it may not be enough considering the weakness of the league. I don't think Maymon is going to play this year and if he does he is not going to be effective until later in the year.
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Wow. Umm yeh it matters how good a team is that we lost to come NCAA time. It matters whether we got blown out or lost by one to certain teams. If you don't think it does then thats laughable. I think 5 teams make the tournament from the sec. Without maymon we may be a bubble team but i'm not going to worry about it till it comes time to worry about it especially since we are only 6 games into the season and you've hit the panic button.
 
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Cuonzo rides his players hard the whole game when we're on defense and that is great.

His managment of the offense leaves a lot to be desired. Especially in the waning seconds of either half.
 
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I can't remember to many times Pearl's Tennessee teams scored only 36 points in a game. Pearl was a great coach.

Pearl inherited Chris Lofton and Jujuan Jones, 2 outstanding 3 point shooters. He was never able to recruit any great perimeter shooters of his own. Hopson was the closest, but he never lived up to the billing.

I hope Martin succeeds, but I don't see him doing as well as Pearl at this point. He is already behind his record at Tennesse in that he did not make the NCAAs last year.

Pearl made the NCAA the first season mainly because of Lofton and Jones. Pearl didn't leave any offense for Martin. Cam Newton, bless his soul, was good for offense about 1 out of every 4 games. Maymon, Golden, and McRae rarely saw the floor Pearl's last season, so were not developed when Coach Zo took over. And McBee is just not a consistent shooter. I thought Martin did an excellent job of molding those Pearl players, who had not been taught a lick of defense under the previous regime, into a pretty good defensive unit, which allowed them to win a lot of games down the stretch despite the fact they were not a good offensive team.
 
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Problem is, we've gone through two recruiting cycles, unless you want to consider the first one as year zero.
 
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#119
You can in retrospect say that Pearl "inherited" a couple of good players. But at the time it was a fairly ragtag collection that most SEC people didn't even know. They became a team because of Pearl. I miss Bruce as well. But, since that is behind us, go Zo!
 
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upsmandlvr said:
You can in retrospect say that Pearl "inherited" a couple of good players. But at the time it was a fairly ragtag collection that most SEC people didn't even know. They became a team because of Pearl. I miss Bruce as well. But, since that is behind us, go Zo!
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A lot of people forget this. Lofton was a player too slow for Kentucky to even consider. He had done nothing to disprove that evaluation until Pearl got here. JuJuan the same. Bradshaw was consider a wasted scholarship. Pitiful bunch until coaching arrived.
 
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kbowersjr said:
First off let me say I really think Conzo is a decent coach, however, this boring style of basketball is painful to watch, I really miss Bruce and the days of high flying offense, we should have waited out the three years, this basketball makes me want to take a nap.
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Go find him and quit whinning like a three year old needing a nap!!!!!
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
A lot of people forget this. Lofton was a player too slow for Kentucky to even consider. He had done nothing to disprove that evaluation until Pearl got here. JuJuan the same. Bradshaw was consider a wasted scholarship. Pitiful bunch until coaching arrived.
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ditto
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Pearl inherited a much better roster from Buzz Peterson than Martin inherited from Pearl. Considering that Pearl had a reputation as a good recruiter, that's pretty pathetic.
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The team that Pearl inherited from Peterson was made up of mostly overachievers. Originally, they were not suppose to be as good as they turned out to be. Had Tobias Harris not opted to turn pro, Martin would have inherited a much better team.
 
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