I Think We Get Left OUT of Playoffs- Regardless

[JMSqb11]

I'm getting 2 tattoos today just to prevent anymore confusion

- "11-1 Tennessee is a lock for CFP"

- "11-2 LSU needs a TCU loss to make CFP"

 

[2EastTnVols]

We blew out LSU on their own field, and then they nearly lost to a 5-5 arky team playing their 3 qb. My head says no way the committee puts LSU in over us, but my bvs is trying to bubble to the surface. Must....fight...it

 

[volfan102455]

The first week, the committee used the strength of schedule and who you have beat and how to determine the top 4. That is why TN was 1 and UGA was 3 and Bama was above TCU.

The committed CAVED to the media pressure the second week and moved away from that to push TCU and Oregon. The media is going to hold on to and push TCU, now USC until they can't because of a loss.

The question is when it comes down to the final week - will the committee pick the best 4 teams based on the schedule, who they have played, or will the committee cave to what the media is pushing? Their job is supposed to be to select the 4 best teams NOT to select the 4 best conference champions.

Vols need to win out. UGA needs to win out. LSU needs to win out losing only to UGA in the title game. Bama need to win out. Pitt needs to continue its winning ways etc.

 

[Behr]

I don't believe that for one second. TCU going 13-0 is why LSU gets left at the alter.

LSU absolutely has to have TCU lose a game to have any shot... If TCU keeps hoe humming in the final 2 games and Tennessee puts up two more 60 pointer games, we will be the #3 seed going into final weekend where we have no game sadly due to loss to UGA.

I do not believe the CFP would put a 11-2 LSU in over 13-0 TCU who has virtually played nobody. I sure as hell don't believe the CFP would put an 11-2 LSU in over 11-1 Tennessee given the mismatch in the head to head. LSU has to have TCU drop a game.

Sorry, I stopped at "I don't believe that for 1 second".

It's a fact. Book it. Oh wait....it's a lock!

If they put LSU in, which I still don't believe they will, but for conversation purposes...

They put LSU in they ain't putting us in over Georgia.

LSU and Georgia in they will not put a third SEC team in. Period. Ain't happening.

They'll put an ACC champion 1 loss Clemson in over 3 SEC teams with a collective 4 losses. Gtfo. Lol.

 

[JMSqb11]

Get ready for the scenario of "3 SEC teams making the playoff" stories and tweets to start.... Media is souring on TCU... Everyone saw that any team with an offense would have beat them by 2-3 scores last night.

Regardless, doesn't impact Tennessee at all.

 

[JRich]

Championship game wins over 2 loss teams hold less clout. Oregon losing helps UT, even if USC beats O in PAC12 CG, UT could still be ranked higher. Michigan’s SOS is abysmal and will likely lose to OSU anyway. Best chance for UT to get in is UT and UGA winning out (duh). Could end up #3 at the end if TCU slips up.

 

[GrizzlyVol]

We blew out LSU on their own field, and then they nearly lost to a 5-5 arky team playing their 3 qb. My head says no way the committee puts LSU in over us, but my bvs is trying to bubble to the surface. Must....fight...it

If they were to put a 2 loss LSU team (assuming you're saying they beat GA in SEC title game) over us who kicked their ass at their own home, **** would go down and fast

 

[Behr]

I'm getting 2 tattoos today just to prevent anymore confusion

- "11-1 Tennessee is a lock for CFP"

- "11-2 LSU needs a TCU loss to make CFP"

Nobody is arguing LSU needs a TCU loss to get in. It's irrelevant.

But since you keep pushing it, you're wrong.

Again. IF LSU beats Georgia in the SECCG and the committee decides to place them in the playoffs...it won't have anything to do with wtf happened with TCU.

 

[DawgBite]

LSU's road did get easier. However, they have some problems.
1) Georgia is in.
2) The OSU/Michigan winner is in.
3) TCU is in if they win out.
4) Tennessee is in if we win out.
5) Even the loser of OSU/Michigan may stay ahead of a 2-loss LSU team.
Much less likely, but a 1-loss USC could get selected too as the rankings collapse with teams losing and move USC higher.

hillsborovol is accurate.

There is no way a 2nd Big Ten team gets in over a 1-loss Vols team. (strength of schedule)

A two-loss LSU team isn't getting in, win or lose. Do you really think they are beating Georgia in Atlanta anyway?

1. Georgia
2. OSU/Michigan winner
3. Tennessee
4. TCU

National Championship = Georgia vs Tennessee

Dawgs are your repeat National Champions!

 

[JMSqb11]

Sorry, I stopped at "I don't believe that for 1 second".

It's a fact. Book it. Oh wait....it's a lock!

If they put LSU in, which I still don't believe they will, but for conversation purposes...

They put LSU in they ain't putting us in over Georgia.

LSU and Georgia in they will not put a third SEC team in. Period. Ain't happening.

They'll put an ACC champion 1 loss Clemson in over 3 SEC teams with a collective 4 losses. Gtfo. Lol.

I haven't had coffee yet. But two things haven't changed.

11-1 Tennessee will go to the playoff

LSU has to have TCU drop a game to make the playoff. They will not get in over us due to head to head.

And I will play along with you cause I haven't had a good ole debate with Ole Behr in a while.

Go into the final week and say TCU drops a game since i'm vehemently believe they have to lose for LSU to have any shot.


11-2 LSU means 12-1 UGA. Since we believe OSU/Michigan winner goes on to win Big Ten, that means the following:

1 seed - 13-0 OSU/Michigan Winner
2 seed or 3 seed - 12-1 UGA. Seeding doesn't really matter at 2 or 3 it is the same semi game
3 seed - 11-1 Tennessee (#3 TCU dropping a game plus Ohio State/Michigan loser both move out of Top 4 and Tenn would move up from #5 to #3)

Now for the 4 seed, you have essentially 3 teams if USC was to go on and be 12-1 Pac 12 Champ
11-2 LSU SEC conference champ
11-1 Ohio State/Michigan Loser (Don't think the loser of a 2 vs 3 matchup drops out of Top 5)
12-1 USC

If, AND ONLY IF, TCU drops a game, the CFP will have a conversation to make between an 11-2 SEC Champ (that conference title carries more weight than a 1 point loss first week of season to a team that will finish season in top 25), a 11-1 Big Ten runner up with a poor SOS, and 12-1 PAC 12 Champ....

This is why I said it was very interesting that LSU got #7 last week. Now with Oregon losing, there is no reason they should stay put and USC jumps them as the "remaining 1 loss PAC12" team.....

If the final spot comes down to an 11-2 LSU vs a 12-1 USC, I find it silly to think the 1 loss PAC 12 champ carries more weight than an 11-2 LSU with one loss to a team ranked directly in front of them.

 

[Fightmaker]

There is no scenario where LSU goes 11-2 and gets in the playoff without Tennessee and Georgia also being in the playoff.

Only way LSU (with 11-1 Tennessee) makes it is with 3 SEC teams in the playoff. TCU dropping a game makes LSU playing for the 4th and final playoff spot in Atlanta vs Georgia.

USC is not a threat regardless of where they finish.

LSU will not be 11-2. Brian Kelly will feel like he’s back at Notre Dame after getting beat by 45 by an SEC team in a championship game.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

1. Georgia
2. OSU/Michigan winner
3. Tennessee
4. TCU
National Championship = Georgia vs Tennessee
Dawgs are your repeat National Champions!

You'd have been Nostradamus if you'd left out that last sentence.

But, sorry, you're just Nostradumbass instead.

Go Vols!

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

It’s not about accuracy, it’s about trust and clout. You’ve got to earn respect or your opinions can be easily dismissed

lmao

 

[JMSqb11]

Nobody is arguing LSU needs a TCU loss to get in. It's irrelevant.

But since you keep pushing it, you're wrong.

Again. IF LSU beats Georgia in the SECCG and the committee decides to place them in the playoffs...it won't have anything to do with wtf happened with TCU.

LSU can't get in the playoff without TCU losing a game as LSU at 11-2 would get the final playoff seed at #4. Since Tennessee is a lock for the playoff, they'd be the #3 seed. I'm very clear in my belief and assertion that Tennessee at 11-1 will end up the 3 seed if UGA finishes undefeated as CFP will avoid all SEC semifinal. Regardless of TCU being 13-0, we are in the 3 seed.

 

[savannahfan]

Nah. The Big 10 sucks. The loser of that game will have no quality wins and we have a couple

Suck or not - - big conference following and huge money, big fan area of country - huge press love,,, sorry one or maybe two will get in. Strange year in the SEC....

 

[JMSqb11]

LSU will not be 11-2. Brian Kelly will feel like he’s back at Notre Dame after getting beat by 45 by an SEC team in a championship game.

I do not think LSU beats Georgia in Atlanta.... However, the whispers and emerging media talks about LSU's playoff chances started with them beating Bama, magnified with them getting put at the #7 rank on Tuesday, and are exploding because Oregon lost last night....

Also the fact that LSU will be in the Top 6 if they are 10-2 going into Atlanta with a matchup vs #1....

That narrative should grow since I don't think anyone thinks LSU will drop a game to UAB or A&M....

 

[JMSqb11]

Suck or not - - big conference following and huge money, big fan area of country - huge press love,,, sorry one or maybe two will get in. Strange year in the SEC....

It is very likely that the loser of Ohio State and Michigan will drop to #6 behind Tennessee, TCU, and LSU.....

 

[Fightmaker]

I do not think LSU beats Georgia in Atlanta.... However, the whispers and emerging media talks about LSU's playoff chances started with them beating Bama, magnified with them getting put at the #7 rank on Tuesday, and are exploding because Oregon lost last night....

Also the fact that LSU will be in the Top 6 if they are 10-2 going into Atlanta with a matchup vs #1....

That narrative should grow since I don't think anyone thinks LSU will drop a game to UAB or A&M....

Even Reece Davis said that LSU is blocked by Tennessee.

 

[volfan102455]

Interesting all but one of the ESPN folks have both OSU and Michigan in the playoffs when all is said and done .. one has TN. None of them have USC or LSU.

 

[JMSqb11]

Even Reece Davis said that LSU is blocked by Tennessee.

I think Rece Davis thinks there is no scenario where the SEC gets 3 teams in the playoff.... Oregon losing means 3 SEC teams will be in the Top 6 now... A TCU loss means 3 SEC teams will be in the Top 5... Michigan and Ohio State play each other and will have a winner and loser that should drop out of the top 4 which means 3 SEC teams will be in the Top 4 going into final weekend with 2 of them set to play each other.

People want to talk about a 12-1 USC team, but LSU is ranked ahead and sort of blocks them out from any playoff talk.. Say TCU goes 13-0, LSU goes 11-2, and USC goes 12-1... USC ain't jumping an 11-2 LSU. USC's chances at the playoff improve if LSU drops the game in Atlanta.

Regardless, I don't think guys like Rece and gulag gang are expecting TCU to lose a game. TCU losing a game would inject chaos into the CFP and football world.

 

[Behr]

LSU can't get in the playoff without TCU losing a game as LSU at 11-2 would get the final playoff seed at #4. Since Tennessee is a lock for the playoff, they'd be the #3 seed. I'm very clear in my belief and assertion that Tennessee at 11-1 will end up the 3 seed if UGA finishes undefeated as CFP will avoid all SEC semifinal. Regardless of TCU being 13-0, we are in the 3 seed.

Tennessee is not a "lock."

 

[Starchief13VFL]

Win out, there is no way the committee can keep us out. What they can do is put us at 4 instead of 3 (where we would deserve to be) so there are not 2 SEC teams in the final

 

[JMSqb11]

Tennessee is not a "lock."

Tennessee goes 11-1 and we are in the playoff full send.....

LSU can NOT go to the playoff with an 11-2 SEC Title with a 13-0 TCU and an 11-1 Tennessee with a head to head blowout loss.

See you on Tuesday... I need to row the boat these next few hours.

 

[Behr]

hillsborovol is accurate.

There is no way a 2nd Big Ten team gets in over a 1-loss Vols team. (strength of schedule)

A two-loss LSU team isn't getting in, win or lose. Do you really think they are beating Georgia in Atlanta anyway?

1. Georgia
2. OSU/Michigan winner
3. Tennessee
4. TCU

National Championship = Georgia vs Tennessee

Dawgs are your repeat National Champions!

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We're talking about what ifs. I would ask you what you thought if certain things happen that could happen, but to be honest, I care more about what Rosie O'Donnell thinks of women's sanitary napkins.

 

[onevol74]

The only way the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs is if the loser of the Mich/OSU game gets blown out or it's a non-competitive game.

I think the committee will give the Big 10 the same benefit of the doubt that they gave the SEC last year. Bama was 11-1 but went to the SECCG and won, and UGA was undefeated going into the game but was #1 for most of the CFP rankings. The same can be said back in 2017, Bama did not play in the SEC title game but got in with UGA. Bama was beaten by an 11-1 Auburn who was beaten by an 11-1 UGA in the SEC title game. Our biggest wins come against teams with 2 losses and our remaining schedule does not have a top-20 team left. In other words, if Mich/OSU goes into their game undefeated and plays like they did last year where the winner won by less than 10, then the loser will get the same benefit of the doubt. Let's hope the Mich/OSU game is a blowout one way or the other. I think the 4th team will be either TCU or the PAC 12 winner with 0 or 1 loss. Also, we need TCU to slip up. Baylor did not look like a world-beater today. The playoff committee would like nothing more than to have teams representing 4 out of the 5 power conferences. It's all about the money. Take your emotions out of it. Do you think they will pick us over USC and risk losing the west coast or Texas/ Southwest viewership?

OSU (#3 Mich)
UGA (#7 LSU)
Mich (#2 OSU)
USC/TCU (USC would play #9 UCLA)

btw- I think TA&M will beat LSU- Jimbo will be playing for a lot.

UCLA will not be #9.