if a&m joins who will join the east

Me too, but with the SEC dominating NC's for over the past half decade, and an ambitious Pac 12 looking for glory, I don't see how this won't become a reality.

True I just think that it will make it 10x harder for us to win a NC if this happends. Were already in the SEC that's hard enough.

I don't know just whatever helps I guess, I really don't see a reason in it though.
 
If Texas A&M joins who else is most likely to join the east to even it out??

As for me... would love to see Ga Tech back in the SEC .. prob not going to happen, but would give us the Atlanta area, as well as Texas for recruiting
 
For an SEC profile, they should look at FSU or Clemson. For television markets, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Missouri, and Maryland might make sense. Don't jump on me about Maryland, either. It helps attract the DC and Baltimore television markets and dollar signs mean the most here.
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well if oklahoma is in then geographically speaking auburn would be the one shifts to the east
 
If we went to 4 divisions of 4, geographically we could be grouped with Kentucky, Vandy and VaTech. Sign me up for that contest please.
 
Rumors are the SEC wants Oklahoma. If that happens, two current west teams will shift to the east to make room for TAMU and OU. Not really a big fan of this idea, we're the SouthEasternConference. If we're going to expand, I favor looking at teams in the region. JMO

I thought Texas was in The South???? :unsure:
 
As for me... would love to see Ga Tech back in the SEC .. prob not going to happen, but would give us the Atlanta area, as well as Texas for recruiting

Where do you live? The SEC already owns Atlanta. When you consider the UGA fans and the transplants from other areas of the South, GT becomes kind of like the Vandy of the state of Georgia, except with winning seasons.
 
What about this for 14 teams? Go to a North and South instead of east and west if OU and A&M come in. I would rather leave Oklahoma out and add a Clemson or V Tech.

The North will be Arkansas, Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma

The South will be Alabama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, MSU, Ole Miss and A&M.

This will not happen. The south would dominate. If A&M and an Oklahoma or Missouri would join the SEC, one of those two teams would be in the west. Bama and Auburn would join the East, IMO.
 
If the SEC expands(and they will), I hope they go for the 16 team, 4 division model with a playoff. If we go any other route, we would be mere followers of the other expansions.

In 1992, the SEC ushered in the modern era of football with the creation of the SEC championship game. I think an argument can be made that the exposure and interest this created has attributed to the current success of the SEC.

If the SEC expands, they need to be innovative, just as they were in
1992. A new format and mini playoff would generate plenty of buzz, and leave the other conferences behind the curve again.

Assuming the SEC adds A&M, Oklahoma, Clemson or Va Tech, and Florida State, the divisions could look like this:

Oklahoma, Arkansas, A&M, LSU;
Miss, Miss.St., Alabama, Auburn;
FSU, UF, Vandy, USC;
TN, UGA, Clemson/Va. Tech, KY

Since you only have 3 mandatory divisional games, the traditional rivalries such as UT/Alabama, Vandy, etc... could be preserved. I am not sure a simple addition of teams without a change in format would be that exciting to me. If we do this, we need to go big, just like we did in 1992.
 
Middle Tennessee state university

Positive- MTSU has played some SEC teams close in the past. WE DID IT!!!! (MTSU's 1st SEC Victory).....wouldn't mind some feedback.....please - Operation Sports Forums

Negative- That tiny stadium doesn't produce much revenue. Solution - Make MTSU play games at the Titan stadium until they build a bigger one in Murfreesboro.

Negative- Memphis recruits may opt to enroll at MTSU due to easier entry and being closer to home than Knoxville. Then MTSU becomes a more serious SEC threat and the UT sees it's status downgraded.

Positive- Chances a Tennessee team could end up being SEC champs and more with two potential powerhouses (based on the negative directly above) knocking at the door on a consistent basis.
 
i dont see east teams wanting to travel to OU and A&M on a regular basis....they need 9 of 12 to make this happen...I say add A&M & GT then call it a day.

Georgia can get over it.

Tennessee has: UTK & Vandy
Alabama has: Bama & Auburn

Two SEC states are the norm now...
 
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For an SEC profile, they should look at FSU or Clemson. For television markets, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Missouri, and Maryland might make sense. Don't jump on me about Maryland, either. It helps attract the DC and Baltimore television markets and dollar signs mean the most here.
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I've been told the Baltimore area very rarely actually tunes into maryland's games; that it's much, much more of a pro city
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As for who i want to add. my thing is i would like teams that have current Rivalry games they play regurly anyways. Why not make them count towards conference record. For instance any of the following. S.Carolina and Clemson, Florida and Florida State, Georgia and Georgia tech. Any of those 3 opponents of current SEC schools would be what I would like to see add. As for Clemson and LSU it would be odd to have 2 stadiums called "Death Valley" in the same conference. however the basketball side of me would like to see us get some bball schools but i understand this is football driven which is the cash cow.
 
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Take A&M. I hear the argument that A&M isn't exactly in the Southeast, but neither is Arkansas. Texas is southern, was in the Confederacy, and has many cultural similarities to the current SEC states. A&M has had rivalries with some current SEC West schools, especially LSU and Arkansas. I don't think adding A&M makes the conference too inappropriately named or drastically changes the cultural identity of the conference.
 
No reason to keep a geoprahic breakdown for divisions. It made sense in the early 90's, because the power breakdown worked out just as well with roughly geographic divisions, which moderately benefits the non-revenue generating sports. That's true with a sub-division old WAC style breadown, or with a Big X* style non-geographic divisons.

The WAC style Pod breakdown is probably the best suggestion, but even that's unnecessary to do geographically.

For example:

UT / Bama / Auburn / Vandy

Florida / FSU / UGA /Kentucky

MSU / Ole Miss / aTm / Ark

OK / Osu / SC / LSU

Each one would have a single strong team, and their strongest traditional in state rivals. And the two biggest out of States are also preserved - Cocktail Party, Third Saturday. The biggest traditional rivalries of the past are restored as well, UT-Auburn and aTm-Arkansas.

Your teams without strong in-states and really big rivalry games (or in Kentucky's case - competitive) are LSU, Ark, Kentucky, UGA, LSU, Atm fill out the rest.

Then you could optionally take an out of sub-division rival.

UT - FL or KY; Auburn - GA; Ark - LSU; etc. That preserves the other games that aren't on the same historic tier as the big rivalries, but are still big games.

The balance of power is close within the sub-division and across the subdivision. This puts you at 4 games permanently scheduled. From here, you play through round-robin without regard to Sub-Divisions in a stable rotation. The only problem here is the rotation is tough if you have 4 school sub-divisions with a an out of Sub-division rival, but its not impossible.

If its not OK, OSU, FSU, and aTM (which is the most likely outcome) it doesn't take much swapping to get similar results.

* Note the X in Big X could mean roman numeral 10, or it could mean an algebraic X of who in good name knows how many teams you have in your league becuase you don't have the good sense to change the number after your name.
 

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