If There Is Indeed Mutual Interest Between Frank and UT...

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Funny, because in either college or pros, when you are on salary, it is every waking minute. Sure, they try to give you time off, but if they need you to do something, everything else better be to the way side, save a family emergency or something.
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Wonder how Doc Rivers has time to come down and watch many of his daughter's volleyball games at UF?
 
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iuvol2012 said:
Byrd is a good coach, but people are glorifying the guy as the best hire simply because of his ties to UT. How did hiring Sidney Lowe work out for NC State?
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I don't care about his ties to UT. I care that he's a stable hire, that teaches fundamental basketball, and won't keep the magnifying glass of the 'AA, on the ant hill of a program we have right now.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Wonder how Doc Rivers has time to come down and watch many of his daughter's volleyball games at UF?
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Because he's the freaking HC, not an assistant. When your the HC, you get to do things like that, because you hire people to help you run the show while your gone. Your also talking about professional players, most with families, who aren't going to do many stupid things while your gone. Much more of a support environment in the pros, versus the college level.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I don't care about his ties to UT. I care that he's a stable hire, that teaches fundamental basketball, and won't keep the magnifying glass of the 'AA, on the ant hill of a program we have right now.
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Recruiting would be a far bigger question mark with Byrd than coaching, IMO.
 
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Bballvol said:
Your right....coaches in the NBA have little work to do....they just throw a ball out on the court and drink coffee. Really?? are you wanting Frank so bad that you have lost touch with reality?

Except for be here assembling staff...preparing for next year, etc... You do realize this isnt a part time job?
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I never said they had little work to do. But you act like they work so hard they have no time for anything else and that's ridiculous. He could do a lot while on a Boston staff and for you to say otherwise is being clueless. I do want Frank bad. Don't you? He's a far better coach than Byrd and Pearl.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
But I'm willing to bet that Frank could probably recruit better from his cell phone 3,000 feet up in a plane than Byrd could with in home visits standing face to face. Still, his staff could recruit until the playoffs are over.
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Yep.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Because he's the freaking HC, not an assistant. When your the HC, you get to do things like that, because you hire people to help you run the show while your gone. Your also talking about professional players, most with families, who aren't going to do many stupid things while your gone. Much more of a support environment in the pros, versus the college level.
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You're kidding yourself, Eric. He could easily put a staff together and a good one at that. Far better than what Byrd could ever think about putting together.
 
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hatvol96 said:
He's a little busy coaching Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, but he'll talk to them as soon as he's done.
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These are 17-18 year old kids hat, you think they give two damns about players that their coach is coaching elsewhere?? What if they don't get along with him?? Your just setting yourself up for two pissed off kids with the scenario being laid out.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
We have two kids right now that need to spend time with their new HC, before they make a decision on whether or not to use their "Get out" clause in their LOI. If that doesn't happen in the next few weeks, our roster is going to suck something fierce without them. Losing Jones and Ware would set us back, and with the looming 'AA sanctions, we can't afford too many setbacks.
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They "need to spend time with their new HC?" This isn't an episode of Oprah.
 
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#241
:eek:k: He would be my first pick because he has some past ties with UT and tremendous experience list.:dance::good!:
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
These are 17-18 year old kids hat, you think they give two damns about players that their coach is coaching elsewhere?? What if they don't get along with him?? Your just setting yourself up for two pissed off kids with the scenario being laid out.
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You should stop now. That post just broke the stupid meter.
 
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LawVol13 said:
You're kidding yourself, Eric. He could easily put a staff together and a good one at that. Far better than what Byrd could ever think about putting together.
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So, you think Frank would take possible 3.5 million less than Doc is making right now to come here??
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
These are 17-18 year old kids hat, you think they give two damns about players that their coach is coaching elsewhere?? What if they don't get along with him?? Your just setting yourself up for two pissed off kids with the scenario being laid out.
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This is just beyond ludicrous.
 
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#245
Now really - other than Brad Stevens - who do you really think can upgrade the roster year after year and get the Vols into the Seet Sixteen consistently with the occasional Final Four run at an NC. Byrd? Marshall? Smart? Turgeon? Joe Sh** the Ragman?

Frank. If you can't get Stevens, and maybe even if you can, you go after Frank. He will fill the seats in TBA, will connect your better players with the NBA, and will outscheme and coach virtually everybody in the conference. He has been scouting for young talent for the draft for years. Please remember that until recently high schoolers were getting drafted along with all of the one and doners that still are.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
These are 17-18 year old kids hat, you think they give two damns about players that their coach is coaching elsewhere?? What if they don't get along with him?? Your just setting yourself up for two pissed off kids with the scenario being laid out.
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If you are really playing devil's advocate, then Satan's buddy must go by Corky
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
1. Phil Jackson
2. Pat Riley
3. Jeff Van Gundy

:crazy:
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Awesome

Lawrence Frank took over a team that under Byron Scott had won two Eastern Conference Championships in a row. He never got them back to one. They had Jason Kidd, Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson for a good portion of his tenure.

1. Phil Jackson.

In 1989 he took over an NBA franchise in the Chicago Bulls that had Michael Jordan but that also needed to grow somewhat. Doug Collins best year, they lost in the Eastern Finals. The team that Jackson took over had experienced less success in the preceding years than the team that Frank inherited. Phil focused on installing a new offense, and with his development, the dynasty in Chicago that made Jordan move from best dunker to best ever in the minds of many became a reality.

2. Pat Riley
He inherited the Lakers as his first NBA head job. They had Magic and Jabbar. The two years before, Magic Johnson won the NBA finals, and the next year Moses Malone bounced them while Magic was hurt. This roster was CLEARLY the best roster inherited by a coach in NBA history. Riley is a hall of fame coach however because he won and won and won with them, and took them to new heights.

3. Jeff Van Gundy
Ewing, Harper, Mason, Starks and Hubert Davis? That is not a more talented roster than the one that was taken over by Frank. I think you are confused because the next year they upgraded the talent level by adding Allan Houston and Larry Johnson the next year.

They were coming off a season where they got bounced by the Pacers, and the year before they had reached the Finals, where they lost because Riley loved Starks despite the fact that Starks couldnt hit the ocean.

So you gave two of the greatest NBA coaches of all time as examples, and we see how they took good rosters to greatness with their coaching.

You also give an example of a guy who kept par for the course for the knicks, getting them back to the conference finals but never breaking through. He was a more successful coach than Frank though in the NBA, and though he is not my first choice, I would rather have him if we are dead set on a short bald coach who was fired in the NBA.


Lawrence Frank as head coach presided over the Nets regressing. He has never shown he can recruit in college. Being a former NBA coach DOES NOT mean you automatically get recruits, ask Tim Floyd amongst others.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
I never said they had little work to do. But you act like they work so hard they have no time for anything else and that's ridiculous. He could do a lot while on a Boston staff and for you to say otherwise is being clueless. I do want Frank bad. Don't you? He's a far better coach than Byrd and Pearl.
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I doubt very seriously you ever watched the Nets while he was coaching and really know what kind of coach he is. With that said though, I would take him over Byrd anyday of the week. However, Byrd will be your next coach.....
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
These are 17-18 year old kids hat, you think they give two damns about players that their coach is coaching elsewhere?? What if they don't get along with him?? Your just setting yourself up for two pissed off kids with the scenario being laid out.
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yeah, these are 17-18 year old kids who have grown up idolizing Garnett, Allen and Pierce and have watched them win multiple championships. Then you tell them if they stay at Tennessee they will be coached by a guy who coached them. Yeah, they're going to be so pissed. So pissed, they probably literally will piss their pants.
 
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hatvol96 said:
You should stop now. That post just broke the stupid meter.
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Yeah, cause high profile recruits who demand attention is something that we should take lightly. I don't think that Frank would want to babysit up on the hill, which is what every coach in college has to do to a degree. Frank has professional athletes working with him on a daily basis, why would he want to work with kids who are concerned about all the ass on campus their freshman year??
 
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