If Trump doesn't win in 2020, the church leaders will be murdered.

[Persian Vol]

I read as much as I need to his 40+ years in office say it all

I wholeheartedly disagree.

 

[FLVOL69]

I wholeheartedly disagree.

Shocker

 

[Orangeslice13]

Bernie Sanders in a nutshell.

Write a book about how socialism is the way to go.
Sell lots of books and become rich.
Hope morons buying books don’t realize that he’s actually just used capitalism to make himself rich telling them things he doesn’t actually believe but knows that’s what they want to hear.

Repeat

 

[DC_Vol]

What has Bernie ever accomplished?

I am not a fan of having to throwing links around but here you go. Unlike most elected officials, he’s been one of the most active members of Congress for decades. To say otherwise is either ignorance or a complete lie.

Bernie has been exposed. Guy is a fraud. Cannot believe you are still spooning up his b******t.

 

[Persian Vol]

Bernie Sanders in a nutshell.

Write a book about how socialism is the way to go.
Sell lots of books and become rich.
Hope morons buying books don’t realize that he’s actually just used capitalism to make himself rich telling them things he doesn’t actually believe but knows that’s what they want to hear.

Repeat

Terrible logic. It’s analogous to calling an anti government ideologue a hypocrite for using government resources like public school or medicare despite preaching how the government should have no involvement in our lives. Should we condemn every individual who ideologically believes in anti government policy when they use any government resources? No that would be ridiculous. But yet people expect Bernie Sanders to be the embodiment of socialism by boycotting all forms of capitalism to set a proper example. Preposterous.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Terrible logic. It’s analogous to calling an anti government ideologue a hypocrite for using government resources like public school or medicare despite preaching how the government should have no involvement in our lives. Should we condemn every individual who ideologically believes in anti government policy when they use any government resources? No that would be ridiculous. But yet people expect Bernie Sanders to be the embodiment of socialism by boycotting all forms of capitalism to set a proper example. Preposterous.

As preposterous as having 3 houses and a net worth in the multi millions and having to be sued to provide a wage that he wants to force on everyone else. Still didn’t provide health care and cut his workers hours to pay for the wage increase.

Just another example of the fraud that is Sanders.

 

[Persian Vol]

How much propaganda must be fed for people to genuinely believe its more likely that someone would devote their life to fighting for beliefs consistently for decades and clamoring for reform while taking little to no donations from corporate interest to advance their political power, to simply hope to explode into the spotlight and monetize off a book in their mid 70s, than it is to simply just believe that they do in fact believe in what they are talking about.

 

[37L1]

How much propaganda must be fed for people to genuinely believe its more likely that someone would devote their life to fighting for beliefs consistently for decades and clamoring for reform while taking little to no donations from corporate interest to advance their political power, to simply hope to explode into the spotlight and monetize off a book in their mid 70s, than it is to simply just believe that they do in fact believe in what they are talking about.

If he truly believed in what he was talking about he wouldn't have a problem paying his employees $15/hr. without cutting back on their hours, he would be far more generous with his charitable contributions, wouldn't be driving a freakin expensive sports car and own three homes.

He might have had a better understanding about what it takes to make a living if he ever really worked a real job in his life.

 

[Persian Vol]

As preposterous as having 3 houses and a net worth in the multi millions and having to be sued to provide a wage that he wants to force on everyone else. Still didn’t provide health care and cut his workers hours to pay for the wage increase.

Just another example of the fraud that is Sanders.

Please tell me exactly where these three homes are exactly. I’m aware of the one in Vermont and the one in DC. Which is common for most congressmen. And to your “Multi Millions” comment. His 2.5 million net worth is hardly that impressive compared to most congressmen. His yearly 174,000 salary is modest compared to the average ~500,000 salary for most members of Congress. Is he poor? No. But to claim he is this absurdly rich individual who is playing the American people for suckers is just nonsensical. And convenient for you to ignore the fact that his campaign even has a union, unlike all other campaigns.

 

[Persian Vol]

If he truly believed in what he was talking about he wouldn't have a problem paying his employees $15/hr. without cutting back on their hours, he would be far more generous with his charitable contributions, wouldn't be driving a freakin expensive sports car and own three homes.

He might have had a better understanding about what it takes to make a living if he ever really worked a real job in his life.

Lol. You are aware that is a completely debunked myth right? His employees were paid 15 dollars an hour but worked longer hours than anticipated, so it ended up equating to roughly 13 an hour. Lets not ignore that they came to an agreement with the union.

 

[37L1]

Please tell me exactly where these three homes are exactly. I’m aware of the one in Vermont and the one in DC. Which is common for most congressmen. And to your “Multi Millions” comment. His 2.5 million net worth is hardly that impressive compared to most congressmen. His yearly 174,000 salary is modest compared to the average ~500,000 salary for most members of Congress. Is he poor? No. But to claim he is this absurdly rich individual who is playing the American people for suckers is just nonsensical. And convenient for you to ignore the fact that his campaign even has a union, unlike all other campaigns.

Bernie Sanders Buys His Third House

Vermont magazine Seven Days reported Tuesday that the 74-year-old senator and his wife, Jane Sanders, have purchased a four-bedroom house on the shore of Lake Champlain for roughly $600,000. Jane told Seven Days that they had recently sold a house in Maine that had belonged to her family since the 1900s, and used the proceeds to purchase the new property, which is located in North Hero (population 803, as of the 2010 census). With this purchase, Sanders now owns at least three houses, the others being in Burlington, VT, and Capitol Hill in D.C.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Please tell me exactly where these three homes are exactly. I’m aware of the one in Vermont and the one in DC. Which is common for most congressmen. And to your “Multi Millions” comment. His 2.5 million net worth is hardly that impressive compared to most congressmen. His yearly 174,000 salary is modest compared to the average ~500,000 salary for most members of Congress. Is he poor? No. But to claim he is this absurdly rich individual who is playing the American people for suckers is just nonsensical. And convenient for you to ignore the fact that his campaign even has a union, unlike all other campaigns.

He's just not going to win the election to become President this next go-round. It's NOT in the cards.
Fine go vote for ole Bernie and waste the vote. His freaking policies are nuts & nobody can tell you otherwise.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Please tell me exactly where these three homes are exactly. I’m aware of the one in Vermont and the one in DC. Which is common for most congressmen. And to your “Multi Millions” comment. His 2.5 million net worth is hardly that impressive compared to most congressmen. His yearly 174,000 salary is modest compared to the average ~500,000 salary for most members of Congress. Is he poor? No. But to claim he is this absurdly rich individual who is playing the American people for suckers is just nonsensical. And convenient for you to ignore the fact that his campaign even has a union, unlike all other campaigns.

The union that formed against his unfair treatment and sued for better wages? That union?

You make a good point that he and the rest of congress are grossly overpaid.

You never hear him speaking out about that injustice either. I’m sure he thinks in his warped mind he’s earned that in his “service” to the people.

Term limits would help protect the people from his “service”. What we need is fewer Bernie’s fleecing the American people for decades.
Because he’s never been in the real world and has no idea how it really works.

 

[Orangeslice13]

“2.5 million is hardly impressive”


Are all Bernie supporters this disconnected from reality?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

“2.5 million is hardly impressive”


Are all Bernie supporters this disconnected from reality?

Must be something in the water they drink or the food they eat.

 

[Persian Vol]

Bernie Sanders Buys His Third House

Vermont magazine Seven Days reported Tuesday that the 74-year-old senator and his wife, Jane Sanders, have purchased a four-bedroom house on the shore of Lake Champlain for roughly $600,000. Jane told Seven Days that they had recently sold a house in Maine that had belonged to her family since the 1900s, and used the proceeds to purchase the new property, which is located in North Hero (population 803, as of the 2010 census). With this purchase, Sanders now owns at least three houses, the others being in Burlington, VT, and Capitol Hill in D.C.

How convenient for you to leave this excerpt out...

“Sanders, an outspoken advocate for the working class who spent his 2016 presidential primary campaign railing against income inequality, remains one of the poorer members of Congress, and his net worth is among the lowest in the Senate. His 2014 tax returns revealed that he and Jane made $205,617 that year, the bulk of which came from Sanders’s $174,000 Senate salary. (Jane, who previously made about $160,000 a year as the president of Burlington College, retired in 2011.)”

He has a home in Vermont. Makes sense. Has a home in DC. Makes sense. And a (600,000) lake house in Vermont. I mean it seemed like he had estates in Miami from the way people acted about this.

 

[Persian Vol]

“2.5 million is hardly impressive”


Are all Bernie supporters this disconnected from reality?

So are you just going to completely ignore the second part of my sentence? My god you bad at this.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So are you just going to completely ignore the second part of my sentence? My god you bad at this.

I address the second part of your sentence.
I agreed with you pointing out that he was grossly overpaid for decades just like the rest of Congress.

You should learn to read and understand what you’re reading. Saying it’s ok that he’s only got 2.5 million for a carrier of fleecing the American people, doesn’t make it less wrong just because he’s not as skilled with money as the rest. If anything his poor financial skills with the overpaid decades is another knock against his ability to head the government.

You don’t appear to be top notch either.
You might want to work on that if you’re gonna be a DR. Reading and understanding a chart might be important

 

[Persian Vol]

I address the second part of your sentence.
I agreed with you pointing out that he was grossly overpaid for decades just like the rest of Congress.

You should learn to read and understand what you’re reading. Saying it’s ok that he’s only got 2.5 million for a carrier of fleecing the American people, doesn’t make it less wrong just because he’s not as skilled with money as the rest. If anything his poor financial skills with the overpaid decades is another knock against his ability to head the government.

You don’t appear to be top notch either.
You might want to work on that if you’re gonna be a DR. Reading and understanding a chart might be important

It seems that you clearly think that his views are wrong. What specifically do you not agree with? And why?

 

[LouderVol]

Please tell me exactly where these three homes are exactly. I’m aware of the one in Vermont and the one in DC. Which is common for most congressmen. And to your “Multi Millions” comment. His 2.5 million net worth is hardly that impressive compared to most congressmen. His yearly 174,000 salary is modest compared to the average ~500,000 salary for most members of Congress. Is he poor? No. But to claim he is this absurdly rich individual who is playing the American people for suckers is just nonsensical. And convenient for you to ignore the fact that his campaign even has a union, unlike all other campaigns.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f2ec40cd81c_story.html?utm_term=.8ec52106c089

him and his wife earned more than 500,000 in 2018. that puts in them in the top 1% of the nation (and vermont). can't compare him to the rest of the trash in Congress, they are all 1%ers. Its funny that you even want to do that, make a comparison from Bernie to those guys. but but but hes not a .1%, or a .01%, those are the really rich guys right. 1% is poor ole Bernie.

Here's how much you have to earn to be in the top 1% in every US state

Tax Returns - Bernie Sanders

he is part of the political elite. has been for 40 years. 40 years of living off the people, getting rich.

just look at him selling out to Clinton in '16 if you want to argue he isn't part of the machine.

 

[Orange_Crush]

How convenient for you to leave this excerpt out...

“Sanders, an outspoken advocate for the working class who spent his 2016 presidential primary campaign railing against income inequality, remains one of the poorer members of Congress, and his net worth is among the lowest in the Senate. His 2014 tax returns revealed that he and Jane made $205,617 that year, the bulk of which came from Sanders’s $174,000 Senate salary. (Jane, who previously made about $160,000 a year as the president of Burlington College, retired in 2011.)”

He has a home in Vermont. Makes sense. Has a home in DC. Makes sense. And a (600,000) lake house in Vermont. I mean it seemed like he had estates in Miami from the way people acted about this.

It wouldn't be a big deal if his shtick wasn't income equality. Heck, so is yours... As you comment on pictures of homelessness while carrying water for Bernie and his third house--the $600,000 one on the lake.is

You expect his detractors not to point out the delta?his

And I noticed you never replied to the posts asking if you are going to share equal pay with your nurses and orderlies. It's easy to force ideals on others before exemplifying it by cutting into your own quick.

 

[DC_Vol]

“2.5 million is hardly impressive”


Are all Bernie supporters this disconnected from reality?

He’s counting on a lot of Persia Vols.

 

[Persian Vol]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f2ec40cd81c_story.html?utm_term=.8ec52106c089

him and his wife earned more than 500,000 in 2018. that puts in them in the top 1% of the nation (and vermont). can't compare him to the rest of the trash in Congress, they are all 1%ers. Its funny that you even want to do that, make a comparison from Bernie to those guys. but but but hes not a .1%, or a .01%, those are the really rich guys right. 1% is poor ole Bernie.

Here's how much you have to earn to be in the top 1% in every US state

Tax Returns - Bernie Sanders

he is part of the political elite. has been for 40 years. 40 years of living off the people, getting rich.

just look at him selling out to Clinton in '16 if you want to argue he isn't part of the machine.

I see this more as cynicism than reality. And as opposed to having his base boycott Clinton in favor of a Trump presidency?

 

[Orangeslice13]

It seems that you clearly think that his views are wrong. What specifically do you not agree with? And why?

Single payer health care run by the government. -the V A is all the proof we need this is a bad idea.

Living wage- the minimum wage isn’t supposed to support people it’s an absolute base. The market should drive wages. We have employees at start at 12 dollars an hour as nobody would work for less. As people become more valuable they make more money. Bumping to 15 an hour would result in 2 layoffs from my company until the business stabilized. (We’ve already done the math) those jobs likely would not return for a few years. Even Bern cut hours when his people called him on his BS.

Income taxes on the rich.
The top 1% don’t have income. They made money on dividends and other non-taxable revenue sources. They know this. The rich democrats know this. That’s why most are unconcerned with the taxation talk.

A serious lack of fiscal discipline and a desire to spend money on free cheeses.
That’s everyone up there though.

I could continue but there’s literally nothing that Bernie says that I agree with.


It would be easier if you presented a Bernie issue you’d think I’d agree with and I’ll tell you why it’s crap.

 

[Persian Vol]

It wouldn't be a big deal if his shtick wasn't income equality. Heck, so is yours... As you comment on pictures of homelessness while carrying water for Bernie and his third house--the $600,000 one on the lake.is

You expect his detractors not to point out the delta?his

And I noticed you never replied to the posts asking if you are going to share equal pay with your nurses and orderlies. It's easy to force ideals on others before exemplifying it by cutting into your own quick.

I didn’t want to entertain an idiotic statement. But it seems that I must respond now.

Let’s be clear. Donating money to charity, as considerate as it is, will not resolve the systemic issue that exists. Me “setting an example” by splitting my wealth with nurses will certainly not fix the issue, and goes against what I believe in. As shockingly enough, I believe in most aspects of capitalism, and I nor anyone else support a structure in which hard work is not rewarded. These ludicrous statements that any progressive must donate all their money to set an example is utterly ridiculous, and paints this false picture that socialism is guided on purely economic equality for all. This is utterly false. The purpose of socialism, from its origin was to serve as a critique of capitalism and address the flaws. I am not an advocate for outright socialism, nor do I believe any democratic candidate is, despite all of the candidates being labeled socialists (many of whom are far from a socialist ideologically). There is a systemic issue in which unregulated capitalism can lead to exploitation from the wealthy, and that our country has been dominated by corporate interests for decades. But unfortunately we live in a country in which individuals who want an objective conversation and who have a critique on capitalism are quickly labeled as “socialist extremist” or “Venezuela lovers”.