Really? Disagreeing with you is a statement about my "football IQ"? I am not even sure how to challenge such an idiotic comment except to say that I consistently point to facts and logic when making my arguments. You haven't.
Correct, you are using logic. Logic that I would expect from a fan, but not from someone who evaluates players and schemes.
Nope. Players and schemes come down to coaching. The change from Chaney's version of the west coast to Jones' version of the spread with west coast elements isn't like going from the run and shoot to the wishbone. The players he inherits on D are actually better suited for the 4-3 base than the 3-4 base.
FWIW, you look at his recruiting and he's taking commits from OL's that are pretty similar to what was left to him minus 4 years of S&C.
Hince, is why I said, you appear to have a low football IQ.
Disagreeing with you O Wise One does not prove someone lacks any kind of IQ. Do you realize how absolutely arrogant and vain your insenuation is?
Anyone who is pre-judging a first year coach based SOLEY on wins and losses fits into this category IMO.
And.... I am not. I am holding him to a standard. If I were judging solely on wins and losses then the expectations I express would be HIGHER. IF he coaches this team to its ability and IF he is the X's and O's guy we hope he is and IF he knows how to get a team ready to play then there are 6 teams on this schedule that he SHOULD beat. Then.... if he's the elite coach UT needs there should be a game where UT wins BECAUSE HE OUTCOACHES the other guy.
Unless, as I said before, Jones totally stinks it up (Let's say 4-8 because you obviously want me to throw out a number).
Not really. I want your number for year two... and year three. If six is "great" this year with a team loaded with talented veterans who WERE in a O system nowhere near as different from Jones' system as Brian Kelly's was from Weis'... then what's acceptable next year when he will depend on far more new players?
Bama is not built for a Chip Kelly style offense and their QB, OL, and running backs would stink it up.
Ummmmm, neither was ND built for Brian Kelly. In fact, that's a fairly similar comparison to Chip Kelly and Bama's roster.
B Kelly vs a difficult schedule with a team that was not recruited to run his system went 8-5 with a bowl win. I'd see that as a good sign if Jones accomplished it this fall. In fact, the team he just took to the NC game still relied on many of those players.
You can also look at Sumlin. His system is VERY different from Sherman's... He had big holes to fill notably at WR outside of Swope.
He would fail in his first year,,, but make personel adjustments and get better with each year. Also by your logic, Gene Chezic should still be at Auburn looking to win his third national championship.
Ummm, no. That makes absolutely no sense at all and bears no relationship to anything I've written.
I hope this helps explain why I think your logic is off just a tad. If not, I guess I would make a pretty poor teacher. BTW, I just want to end this argument by saying. I am sorry for using the words "Low footbal IQ"... and I love you.:biggrin:
Love you too. In the end... its all just banter over opinions of what we think will happen. My "low football IQ" accurately predicted that Dooley had much less than 50% chance of surviving longer than 3 years even if he were a very good coach. The challenges were too big even for a great coach to do much the first two years.
Jones first year roster is miles ahead of what Dooley's was... and Dooley, who can't coach, won 6 games against a schedule that was just as tough. SO.... better coach+better roster+equal schedule... should equal more than 6 games won. I personally do not like the coaching carousel. I would love to see Jones be "the guy". I don't want to suffer through another period like we had during the last few years of Fulmer and then under Dooley. But refusing to see what "better" looks like from Jones won't help us avoid it if all the current excitement does not turn into wins.
