‘23 IL WR Carnell Tate (Ohio State commit)

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sjt18 said:
LOL... and here we are again. One, you parsed that list pretty good to avoid being wrong. You're still wrong. Granted Saban has signed MORE highly talented guys. FWIW, Cooper, Ruggs, Waddle, and maybe others were 4*.

No one has found and signed more talent than Saban. That's no one's argument. But UT has had, and squandered, talented players due to poor coaching.
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and he listed NFL players so I listed a few as well. Carnell projects as one of those elite guys by nearly everyone that scouts including multiple top programs across the country. Hopefully we can land him. Would be a phenomenal boost undoubtably!
 
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VolNash17 said:
Of course we have squandered talent. Didn’t say we never have. That’s what happens when you have poor recruiters/coaching/evaluators running your program for 15 years. Looking good so far with Heupel on that side of the ball
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It was the coaching... not poor recruiting or evaluating per se. That factored as well but much more often than not and particularly since Jones was hired... UT underperformed the talent on the roster.
 
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VolNash17 said:
and he listed NFL players so I listed a few as well. Carnell projects as one of those elite guys by nearly everyone that scouts including multiple top programs across the country. Hopefully we can land him. Would be a phenomenal boost undoubtably!
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You improve your odds when a guy has a high rating and is being pursued by top programs. But having recently watched his highlights, I think Mizzell and Kasper look better on the public videos. Just an opinion.
 
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sjt18 said:
You improve your odds when a guy has a high rating and is being pursued by top programs. But having recently watched his highlights, I think Mizzell and Kasper look better on the public videos. Just an opinion.
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Fair enough. They certainly could end up being better
 
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Vol8188 said:
No one thinks those times are real. This just so happened to be the fastest class at every position in nfl history….or there was an error
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They are actually real..it was the official time at the official nfl combine..dumb dumb comment
 
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VolNash17 said:
With respect to Callaway, Jennings and those guys. Except Alvin. They aren’t the caliber of Jerry Jeudy, Jaylen waddle, Calvin Ridley, Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Najee Harris, Derrick Henry, Zeke, Terry McLaurin, Michael Thomas. That’s obvious to anyone and everyone with clear shade glasses on. Which is why we need Carnell. Get Carnell and that type of talent back here at UT and we’ll claim share of game breakers that will dominate the NFL draft
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I am saying that had Velus Jones Jr went to Bama, been ingrained from day 1 in that program, like the guys you just mentioned, he's absolutely the caliber player of those guys. He has the speed, the size, athleticism, the build, the versatility, the make-up of those guys. I believe Velus is elite, and can be even more so.

With that said, I don't believe Cedric Tillman is "elite". Ced is VERY GOOD!!!, but not what I'd consider elite...he doesnt seem to have the speed and versatility, the quickness, the elusiveness. I believe you can line Velus up at RB/anywhere, and hand it off to him, like CP...he's that special, imo.
 
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SugarCC said:
I am saying that had Velus Jones Jr went to Bama, been ingrained from day 1 in that program, like the guys you just mentioned, he's absolutely the caliber player of those guys. He has the speed, the size, athleticism, the build, the versatility, the make-up of those guys. I believe Velus is elite, and can be even more so.

With that said, I don't believe Cedric Tillman is "elite". Ced is VERY GOOD!!!, but not what I'd consider elite...he doesnt seem to have the speed and versatility, the quickness, the elusiveness. I believe you can line Velus up at RB/anywhere, and hand it off to him, like CP...he's that special, imo.
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fair enough
 
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Devo182 said:
Yes 32 separate NFL teams and their billions can't differentiate...

I'm confused. Do you really believe Velus is a 1-2nd round guy that's going to get gipped?

Tillman had a better season and even decided to return...

Velus was 9th just in the SEC in receiving yards.

Jmo but some of y'all are making a lot out of his seaon. The NFL sees a 25 year old with 1 good season under his belt...but he was also under Hype's offense. They know that too ofc.



None of this to take away from Velus's season
...just saying, this offense creates studs. But a raw legit 5* type talent would absolutely kill it here.
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This. It’s absurd to think that NFL front office personnel, whose jobs are to scout talent and acquire it for their teams, are biased towards Bama or any other school. They are trained to evaluate talent, they are paid handsomely to do so, and if they do so poorly, they are unemployed.

In other words, these folks are the absolute best on the planet at evaluating football talent. But some of y’all wanna act like they’re just homers for certain college teams, while simultaneously believing that the dweebs running Internet recruiting sites are football talent scientists.
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
For the love of all things big orange, please change your screen name to marcusluvzvolz!
It’ll be epic!
😎
GBO!!
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Look at the big brain on CobbWebb!!! Thanks broseph.

While i admit that I now feel a little embarrassed and almost hypocritical for not practicing what i preached...i did pick my screen handle in a rushed moment a decade ago after my 1st 2 choices were already take n. Thank you for pointing out my seemingly obvious oversight. Lol.

Sadly, i believe the only way one can change their callsign is by special permission from the Grand Poobah himself...Freak. Or maybe that changed when he overhauled VN a while back? In all honesty.. i know how to use very few features here bc I am lazy and have been known to let the red numbers up there ^^^ next to the bell on mobile get up to several thousand haha.

I post rarely but nearly always leave walls of text in my wake with zero regard for punctuation or brevity. Furiously thumbing about 60 words per minute like a texting 13yo girl... i have 1 of those for reference and the resemblance is uncanny. She is likely the most expensive thing I own...other than her Mom anyway.

Go VOLS!
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Look at the big brain on CobbWebb!!! Thanks broseph.

While i admit that I now feel a little embarrassed and almost hypocritical for not practicing what i preached...i did pick my screen handle in a rushed moment a decade ago after my 1st 2 choices were already take n. Thank you for pointing out my seemingly obvious oversight. Lol.

Sadly, i believe the only way one can change their callsign is by special permission from the Grand Poobah himself...Freak. Or maybe that changed when he overhauled VN a while back? In all honesty.. i know how to use very few features here bc I am lazy and have been known to let the red numbers up there ^^^ next to the bell on mobile get up to several thousand haha.

I post rarely but nearly always leave walls of text in my wake with zero regard for punctuation or brevity. Furiously thumbing about 60 words per minute like a texting 13yo girl... i have 1 of those for reference and the resemblance is uncanny. She is likely the most expensive thing I own...other than her Mom anyway.

Go VOLS!
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I have 4 of those expensive things.🤦‍♂️
GBO!!
 
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