"I'm Voting For _________ Because"

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#105
hog88 said:
You like the parliamentary system like England.
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Think we would get a better leader if they didn't have to raise millions and travel the country for 2-3 years....letting Governors appoint Senators keeps some power at state level and having multiple party forces them to work in coalitions limiting power
 
#106
#106
GordonC said:
Nope, not really. Just pointing out that the grass isn't always greener.
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The grass isn't always greener because this one time in Germany a psychopathic murderous monster became Der Fuhrer? Multiple political parties were the culprit, and not widespread propaganda, sweeping toxic nationalism, and oppressive fascism coupled by appeasement from the European powers at be, which is arguably the worst diplomatic policy in history? Yeah man, I guess I can see your point.
 
#107
#107
volfan4lyfe said:
The grass isn't always greener because this one time in Germany, a psychopathic murderous monster became Der Fuhrer? Multiple political parties were the culprit, and not widespread propaganda, sweeping toxic nationalism, and oppressive fascism coupled by appeasement from the European powers at be, which is arguably the worst diplomatic policy in history? Yeah man, I guess I can see your point.
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Yes. It was appeasement in 1932.
So well played.
Edit: bolded part unique to Weimar Germany?
 
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GordonC said:
Yes. It was appeasement in 1932.
So well played.
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Absent appeasement, Nazi Germany may have been quelled sooner than it was. Even taking appeasement out of this, you still see my point right? That it's an non-sequitur that multiple political parties inevitably lead to Hitler. So much more went into Hitler's rise to power than just the existence of multiple political parties in Germany at the time.
 
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#111
GAVol said:
Biden may not be a radical, but what he would be is a rubber stamp. If we've learned one thing from Obama and Trump, it's the radical difference between letting government agencies run wild with regulations vs. what happens when you take them away.
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A more clear and more recent contrast would be the DNC governors vs the GOP governors during lock downs.
 
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#113
#113
utvolpj said:
You know trump isn't exactly leading us away from that cliff? The fire is starting to smolder and he's pretty much nowhere to be found. We desperately need an actual leader
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I've been saying this for years, esp. leading up to 2016. Hillary was going to drive us over the cliff at 88mph and whoever the GOP candidate was going to be would drive at 45mph, maybe stop for gas and a sandwich, and then drive us over the cliff. Either way, their leading us in the same direction.
 
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volfan4lyfe said:
(1) Absent appeasement, Nazi Germany may have been quelled sooner than it was. (2) Even taking appeasement out of this, you still see my point right? That it's an non-sequitur that multiple political parties inevitably lead to Hitler. (3) So much more went into Hitler's rise to power than just the existence of multiple political parties in Germany at the time.
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(1) hard to know with nations preoccupied with the damn going on and memories of WWI's destruction still alive
(2) never heard anyone say it was "inevitable"...clearly we have problems that need to be fixed in our system...but people throwing out multi-party as a "will fix it" (which I hear a lot) may not fix it
(3) of course. See (1) and ToV, tradition of anti-Semitism, militarism, lack of dem tradition, lots of factors
 
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GordonC said:
(1) hard to know with nations preoccupied with the damn going on and memories of WWI's destruction still alive
(2) never heard anyone say it was "inevitable"...clearly we have problems that need to be fixed in our system...but people throwing out multi-party as a "will fix it" (which I hear a lot) may not fix it
(3) of course. See (1) and ToV, tradition of anti-Semitism, militarism, lack of dem tradition, lots of factors
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I think we are in agreement with (1) and (3) for sure. I was merely trying to point out that Hitler being elected Chancellor via the vote of a multi-party system is a weak rebuttal to someone who is pointing out the deficits in the two-party system.
 
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#120
VolnJC said:
Think we would get a better leader if they didn't have to raise millions and travel the country for 2-3 years....letting Governors appoint Senators keeps some power at state level and having multiple party forces them to work in coalitions limiting power
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I’m 100% in support of repealing the 17th amendment but not taking the people out of the presidential vote.
 
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#121
CagleMtnVol said:
Trump, because the other choice is lawlessness and insane chaos that is propped up by groups with strongly anti-American sentiments!
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Given this is a political forum, I'm assuming the above was meant as sarcasm, so I took the sarcasm out for you.

Biden, because the other choice is lawlessness and insane chaos that is propped up by groups with strongly anti-American sentiments!
 
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#123
Voting for Trump, because I don’t want a NWO, and chipped, and the anti christ for us to die. He’ll keep us out of that crap.You people voting for Biden, he will get us right in it very quickly, and we will all die!
 
#124
#124
VolnJC said:
I see alot from both sides saying they are voting against Trump or Biden, this thread is to tell us why you are voting for your candidate, no mentioning of other candidates.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 but plan to this time and while disappointed in his failure to drain the swamp, I like that he will call out the media and I don't think he will put our soldiers in wars that we have no place being in and I feel he is the best choice for me and my families financial future.
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You asked for too much. In this thread, you will be hard pressed to find too many people that actually gave a reason why they were voting "for" one guy or the other. It was mainly people more concerned about voting "against" one candidate.

Your thread failed. :(
 
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