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rekinhavoc said:
I'm pretty sure we could keep it open.
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Show me. When we open up the Bab al-Mendeb, come back at me. In the meantime, goatherders in one of the poorest countries in the Middle East is on our list right now.

rekinhavoc said:
We don't need troops. Destroy their navy and nothing gets in or out by sea. They can't sell oil and they can't smuggle weapons.
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And again, you can destroy their navy and they would stil shutdown Strait of Hormuz. Now who does that hurt more: Iran or the Europeans?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Show me. When we open up the Bab al-Mendeb, come back at me. In the meantime, goatherders in one of the poorest countries in the Middle East is on our list right now.


And again, you can destroy their navy and they would stil shutdown Strait of Hormuz. Now who does that hurt more: Iran or the Europeans?
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An naval blockade would bring Iran to it's knees in weeks.

Who do you think is getting the "goatherders" weapons?
 
#578
#578
rekinhavoc said:
An naval blockade would bring Iran to it's knees in weeks.

Who do you think is getting the "goatherders" weapons?
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The US navy won't be able to blockade anything. Let's start from there first. The Iranians have missiles that can wipe them out long before they get anywhere near Hormuz.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
All of our equipment is superior.
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Debatable... especially based on what we have seen thus far in Ukraine and the Middle East in the past few months.

But let's say for the sake of argument that you are correct. We may have quality, but what about quantity? In other words, how sustainable would any attack be with our current weapons systems?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That is just a marketing term at this point. And again, if goatherders in Afghanistan and Yemen and rice farmers in SE Asia have beaten us, what makes you think it will be any different wth a real and professional army like the IRGC?


They have more than enough to make a war with Iran a fool's erand.


Our only advantage against Iran would be nukes. We don't have the troops and our navy and logistics would not be able to set up shop. Plus, what Iran lacks in certain areas, they make up in missile tech and air defense. There is no way the US can/will put the necessary boots on the ground to threaten Iran. At best, all we can do is harass them with air strikes on occasion. That won't be effective with their air defense and with our limited supply of missiles.
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Please name the major battles that the United States has lost against said goat herders......ever.

Our advantages against Iran are: Air Force, Navy, technology, gunships.....I can keep going. They don't do anything even remotely better than us and you know it.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
All of our equipment is superior.
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I will say this, we certainly do spend a lot of money on our equipment... that doesn't mean it is better or suitable for real combat situations. We've already seen that US?NATO equpment isn't sustainable or suitable for long combat missions in Eastern Europe. And we have not ever fought a serious army in the ME that had close to peer air defense or military.... and yes, I am including Iraq. That was 20-30 years ago. The world has caught up to us and spent their resources and time on air defense and missile technology while we have spent over $800 billion per year on fantasmo widgets and gadgetry like the F-35 and Sentinel (ballistic) missiles.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I will say this, we certainly do spend a lot of money on our equipment... that doesn't mean it is better or suitable for real combat situations. We've already seen that US?NATO equpment isn't sustainable or suitable for long combat missions in Eastern Europe. And we have not ever fought a serious army in the ME that had close to peer air defense or military.... and yes, I am including Iraq. That was 20-30 years ago. The world has caught up to us and spent their resources and time on air defense and missile technology while we have spent over $800 billion per year on fantasmo widgets and gadgetry like the F-35 and Sentinel (ballistic) missiles.
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There you go again..you dont know what you are talking about.
 
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norrislakevol said:
With the U.S. Army of course. Still by far the deadliest armed forces in the world.
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You are delusional. Just from a logistics and staging stand point, we can't come close to repeating what we did in Desert Storm in 2024. We don't have the men and we don't have the logistics. Period.

And from what I've seen in my lifetime, we are proven to be deadly when it comes to killing civilians (Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Angola, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Gaza, Donbas, etc.), but we cannot kill soldiers on the battlefield.
 
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Orangeburst said:
There you go again..you dont know what you are talking about.
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And here you go again... popping smack, but not proving a single thing I said wrong.

I consider(ed?) you to be one of the smarter ones in here. Look at what we have done in the past 20+ years since 9/11 and tell me I'm a liar or propagandist.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Debatable... especially based on what we have seen thus far in Ukraine and the Middle East in the past few months.

But let's say for the sake of argument that you are correct. We may have quality, but what about quantity? In other words, how sustainable would any attack be with our current weapons systems?
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You think we are sending anyone our top shelf weaponry?

One carrier group is all that is needed.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And here you go again... popping smack, but not proving a single thing I said wrong.

I consider(ed?) you to be one of the smarter ones in here. Look at what we have done in the past 20+ years since 9/11 and tell me I'm a liar or propagandist.
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I am speaking strictly in the sense of a conflict..nobody is better at blowing up ****, never said anything about fixing what we blew up or issues with political meddling.
I gave you plenty of examples of capabilities, but not my job to educate you with a white paper.

And I say that as someone who‘s knowledge is less than some on this forum.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You are delusional. Just from a logistics and staging stand point, we can't come close to repeating what we did in Desert Storm in 2024. We don't have the men and we don't have the logistics. Period.

And from what I've seen in my lifetime, we are proven to be deadly when it comes to killing civilians (Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Angola, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Gaza, Donbas, etc.), but we cannot kill soldiers on the battlefield.
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Man, Ras' world is certainly a different dimension. It must be fun there for you there. A world of cheap eggs and vodka. A world where 5 is a larger number than 10 and silver is worth more than gold. You genuinely baffle me at times sir.
 
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#591
It is not easy to destroy Yemeni military capabilities, rebuilt and strengthened over years of harsh war.

Instead of escalation and igniting a new front in the region, America and Britain should submit to international public opinion demanding end to aggression on Gaza.

The aggressive air raids, whether on Yemen or on Iraq and Syria, will solidify people's anger and unite them against American imperialism in the region - Abdel Salam.

t.me

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Houthi spokesman and diplomat Mohamed Abdel Salam (pictured) slams U.S./U.K strikes, vowing it will fail to achieve their goal - and will only strengthen Yemen's resolve to act for Gaza. It is not easy to destroy Yemeni military capabilities, rebuilt and strengthened over years of harsh war...
t.me t.me

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rekinhavoc said:
You think we are sending anyone our top shelf weaponry?

One carrier group is all that is needed.
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Even our top shelf stuff didn't do s#!t in Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan. If it did, then the Taliban, Bashar Assad and the Iraqi Shia govts wouldn't be running things right now.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Man, Ras' world is certainly a different dimension. It must be fun there for you there. A world of cheap eggs and vodka. A world where 5 is a larger number than 10 and silver is worth more than gold. You genuinely baffle me at times sir.
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Keep living in your Land of Make-Believe... Your commentary would have been right 20-30 years ago. Not true in 2024.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I will say this, we certainly do spend a lot of money on our equipment... that doesn't mean it is better or suitable for real combat situations. We've already seen that US?NATO equpment isn't sustainable or suitable for long combat missions in Eastern Europe. And we have not ever fought a serious army in the ME that had close to peer air defense or military.... and yes, I am including Iraq. That was 20-30 years ago. The world has caught up to us and spent their resources and time on air defense and missile technology while we have spent over $800 billion per year on fantasmo widgets and gadgetry like the F-35 and Sentinel (ballistic) missiles.
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Bro did you see what the US did to Iraq in the first Gulf War?
Iran and Iraq fought for years without either gaining much of an advantage.
Do you think Iran has dramatically upgraded their defense systems?
 
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#597
Carl Pickens said:
Bro did you see what the US did to Iraq in the first Gulf War?
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Yep, I sure did. Iraq was a 2nd rate military 30 years ago. What does that have to do with today?

Carl Pickens said:
Iran and Iraq fought for years without either gaining much of an advantage.
Do you think Iran has dramatically upgraded their defense systems?
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They are at least on par with the Taliban, Houthis and Hezbollah. The US hasn't shown they are capable of beating any of them.
 
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#599
Carl Pickens said:
This comes to mind after reading your post
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Rodney Dangerfield summed it up best at the end... he seems to care... about what I have no idea.

The US pushed past the 38th parallel and then were pushed back below it by Chinese that didn't have boots or winter gear.
 
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#600
Carl Pickens said:
It’s simply because they’re afraid of the war of public opinion.
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Again, I've been hearing the same arguments my entire life. "We didn't go in hard enough..." Blah blah blah... Outside of nukes, what more could you have wanted in any of these conflicts?
 
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