Is Pruitt unwilling to give an OC control?

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volfannbama said:
It's so weird...we hire Pruitt and instantly:

Tennessee is competent at hiring coaches and deserves no scrutiny in doing so
Tennessee has zero talent and every service misevaluated every Tennessee signee for the last 4 years.
Noine in the media know anything, at all....none of then.
Noone knows what type of coach Pruitt is...noone.

Insane.

Opps forgot one...

Coaches are great before they coach their first game.
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One of the dumbest posts you have ever posted.
 
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Whether it's reasonable to assume that CJP is simply taking his sweet time, dotting all his i's and crossing all his t's, it does tend to leave a perception that either he can't make up his mind in 40 days, or that every name that's been even mentioned in passing has flat turned him down. Neither is a good look for him or UT. Now he could name someone from the AL or Clemson staffs after that NC game, and we all say oh now we understand. Or we could all still be scratching our heads. However I feel at this point that any announcement will be made next week after the NC game and no later than next weekend, whether or not anyone from either staff is involved. He's got to fish by then. No time left to cut bait.
 
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PACKERVOL said:
Whether it's reasonable to assume that CJP is simply taking his sweet time, dotting all his i's and crossing all his t's, it does tend to leave a perception that either he can't make up his mind in 40 days, or that every name that's been even mentioned in passing has flat turned him down. Neither is a good look for him or UT. Now he could name someone from the AL or Clemson staffs after that NC game, and we all say oh now we understand. Or we could all still be scratching our heads. However I feel at this point that any announcement will be made next week after the NC game and no later than next weekend, whether or not anyone from either staff is involved. He's got to fish by then. No time left to cut bait.
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Yep. Dead period ends Jan 10.

Personally cant imagine why they would stretch it longer and be a recruiter short unless there is some rule that allows them to have non staff helping out.

Not having an OC isnt killing recruiting but no way it is helping either.

Pulling a guy from another school may bring in someone the Vols weren't in on as well.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Head coaches do not give up control of any entity in their program. Fulmer pissed off Cut and Chavis many times with changes to play calls, plans or who might play. Coordinators work for the head coach and at the end of the day, the head coach can make the final call. I have spoken with both of them when they were so mad they could chew nails.
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Ok...I did t exactly mean total control. I do t think any coordinator has total control....perhaps Peyton did as a QB at Indy. I'm talking about enough control...as in the freedom to run their system and manage their system it has been successful for them in the past
 
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VOLnMiami said:
A lot of it has to do with the style offense Pruitt runs...Not many OC's have much experience running that style anymore...Almost everybody runs a spread or spread option style...That is the thing now...Very few teams run a I-formation style of offense anymore...A few do like Wisconsin but really not many others do...It's like trying to find a coach who can install a true wishbone offense now...Good luck finding one who can...There is a high school coach in Virginia who runs it but you will be hard pressed to find anyone else who does...So I feel that is what the problem is right now...Pruitt is having problems finding a coach who awill run what he wants...It could be career suicide if he's not careful.
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I disagree, I believe Pruitt wants the modern pro style. Single back 10 or 11 personnel with RPO. Yurcich was his guy. I think he is trying to find a Yurcich like OC. Helton could have become that OC. There are not that many out there. Add in we have an offensive staff and he is between a rock and a hard place.
I don’t believe the micro management crap.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Sarcasm is about all I have left to get me through following this program.

And Makers. Lots and lots of Makers.

I get what you are saying but the 4 teams in the playoffs aren't good examples. Not even close bud.

Clemson had more passing plays than rushing against ND.

OK had more passing attempts than rushing against Bama. Understandably so.

Bama had 28 passes to 42 rushes but a 31-10 halftime lead against an explosive offense could dictate leaning on the run.

ND had 35 rushes to 34 passes.

Not a single team in the 2 games ran the ball 70 percent of the time as you stated.

And I don't think it is so much as they are worried about the clock. I feel most OCs are running the clock down not for the sake of TOP or resting their defense, but getting the opposing defense to commit and giving the QBs additional time to read the defense.

Good teams will also periodically run tempo to keep the opposing defense on the field and keep them from substituting DL.

But yes, the groundbreaking offense you described was terrific in the 90s and early 2000s. Seems to fit right in with what Fulmer and Pruitt wants and I suspect Will Friend has some input as well since he was involved with coordinating at UGA and Colorado ST.
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You are so right. I totally agree. Concerning Bama they jumped out to a 28 to 0 lead by passing more, then they started running more after they established the lead. And in my opinion when Bama got away from their initial offensive scheme because they had such a big lead it alllowed ok to get back in the game. If Bama had continued as they started more passing, the would have really blew ok out of the game. Bama had 10 pass attempts the 2nd half. Hey i'm not knocking Bama they were in total control. Just saying it would not have even been close if they had the same offensive scheme the 2nd half as they did starting the game.So when Bama ran more than passed the 2nd half ok out scored them. And this is with Bama's superior talent. This day and time you cannot win the big games with more running plays versus pass plays. Saban has adapted to the newer scheme. The type offense it appears we want to run is the same thing that got Miles from Lsu fired. You can't run run and then pass consistantly and win the big games.
 
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81Orange said:
I disagree, I believe Pruitt wants the modern pro style. Single back 10 or 11 personnel with RPO. Yurcich was his guy. I think he is trying to find a Yurcich like OC. Helton could have become that OC. There are not that many out there. Add in we have an offensive staff and he is between a rock and a hard place.
I don’t believe the micro management crap.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I do respect everyones opinion but I agree with vosnmiami
 
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LWSVOL said:
I do not believe anyone has turned the job down at this point. I do not think Pruitt has offered the job to a single person. It got close to an offer with Yurcich but never got to that point.. Only time it was close.
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And I 100% agree with you.
 
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We Vols are down for now and our offense looks like crap. The OC job here is still not that unattractive. The oline is the biggest problem and recruiting has gone a long way towards fixing that. We are a school that can attract talented players.
The young fast rising OC like Yurcich with a track record won’t come here for a 2-3 year rebuild. He wants to look good from day 1 and will go where the talent is in place.
We will get a less experienced guy reaching to get ahead or a guy that has experience and needs a restart. Pruitt had no problem getting his first staff. He will find a guy.
 
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BeecherVol said:
It's funny to watch posters fall all over themselves about Pruitt being a defensive guy with no clue about offense but we know what his scheme is on that side of the ball.
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True. It just seems like some want to find any simple thing to try and rack on Pruitt.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Hes a green coach and will have his moments.

Years 2 and 3 will be better gauge for what he is or has the ability to be.
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I agree. But honestly I am willing to go to year 4 until I give a real judgement. Reason is, its going to take that long to get the lines on both sides of the ball fixed imo.
 
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pismonque said:
I think it's safe to assume that potential OCs don't like that Pruitt is making all the coaches share a single office for team unity, and that he insists on dictating gameday footwear for all staff. Nobody likes to be told that kind of thing. And it's clear that they're not happy with the heavily regulated meal seating arrangements that are organized on a merit basis. No self-respecting coach will walk into a situation like that.
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Did you forget the “blue” font? Because that’s complete nonsense.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Wanted to start a discussion that is going to tear some of your bowels up, so just find another thread if you need to. Based on reports of all of the interviews and the time frame of this OC search(41 days and counting) I think it's safe to assume that Pruitt has offered the OC to job to some of these OCs. My question is why are they turning the job down? We know the money is there, so why are these coaches choosing to go elsewhere over UT? I know this is going to infuriate the "nobody knows anything" nazis, but I say if the UT admin doesn't want speculation, they can leak some information, handle this in a timely manner, or deal with it. I was never on board with the Tyson Helton hire, but I still don't think he was anywhere near as bad as he appeared here. First time head coaches sometimes have trouble giving up control on the side of the ball that they aren't as familiar with. Dabo struggled with it when he first became a HC. What say you? Is that the case here? Is there another reason coaches are opting for other programs?
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You have way to much time on your hands.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Wanted to start a discussion that is going to tear some of your bowels up, so just find another thread if you need to. Based on reports of all of the interviews and the time frame of this OC search(41 days and counting) I think it's safe to assume that Pruitt has offered the OC to job to some of these OCs. My question is why are they turning the job down? We know the money is there, so why are these coaches choosing to go elsewhere over UT? I know this is going to infuriate the "nobody knows anything" nazis, but I say if the UT admin doesn't want speculation, they can leak some information, handle this in a timely manner, or deal with it. I was never on board with the Tyson Helton hire, but I still don't think he was anywhere near as bad as he appeared here. First time head coaches sometimes have trouble giving up control on the side of the ball that they aren't as familiar with. Dabo struggled with it when he first became a HC. What say you? Is that the case here? Is there another reason coaches are opting for other programs?
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Please, can some base their post on some kind of substance, instead of assumptions? You have zero evidence that this is why, not one candidate has stated why they did not go to Tennessee, but you automatically believe Pruitt is doing something wrong........wow! must be hard being you =/
 
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livefaith said:
Is that the same Basilio who trashed our BBall coach for coming to collect a check while retiring for his first 2 seasons ... then has fallen strangely silent on the matter for the past 1.5 seasons? :-D Gotta love these guys.
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Not silent at all. Do you even listen? Almost once per day he admits his error regarding his opinion on Barnes success. Just listen sometime and you’ll hear it.

On the other hand, he called Helton leaving very early in the season for which he was vilified. Knew Bailey was committing, and knew we were NOT 95% done like DM said. All proven true.

He has more sources than DM and Hyams in this staff.
 
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