Is Pruitt unwilling to give an OC control?

[butchna]

Riley didn’t even make a practice squad.

 

[sjt18]

Wanted to start a discussion that is going to tear some of your bowels up, so just find another thread if you need to. Based on reports of all of the interviews and the time frame of this OC search(41 days and counting) I think it's safe to assume that Pruitt has offered the OC to job to some of these OCs. My question is why are they turning the job down? We know the money is there, so why are these coaches choosing to go elsewhere over UT? I know this is going to infuriate the "nobody knows anything" nazis, but I say if the UT admin doesn't want speculation, they can leak some information, handle this in a timely manner, or deal with it. I was never on board with the Tyson Helton hire, but I still don't think he was anywhere near as bad as he appeared here. First time head coaches sometimes have trouble giving up control on the side of the ball that they aren't as familiar with. Dabo struggled with it when he first became a HC. What say you? Is that the case here? Is there another reason coaches are opting for other programs?

It is very difficult to judge an offensive staff when the OL was that bad and the QB struggles with decision making and reads. Applicants know that they'll have to work through some talent issues. This fall the Vols will have an OL made up of guys with an injury history, guys not proven to have great talent, and guys with no experience. The QB question marks are still there though some prefer to place all the blame somewhere else.

That doesn't mean that UT is "set" at RB, TE, and WR. There have been a few flashes but no proven game changers.

So... you're offered UT and tOSU... you take the team loaded with talent. It isn't personal. It is a good career strategy.

Someone will weigh the risks and potential rewards and grab the opportunity. IMHO, that "someone" will be a highly successful lower level coach or someone with success but some blemishes too.

Helton is respected by other coaches. Those other potential candidates saw what happened this past year. That's why they're hesitant. They see that it could a long road.

OTOH, UT could break with practice and tick every other program off in the process to hire a top name. Offer a big salary. Offer a big buy out. Sign the OC for 4 years. That's as close as you can get to guaranteeing enough time to turn everything around.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I think it's safe to assume that potential OCs don't like that Pruitt is making all the coaches share a single office for team unity, and that he insists on dictating gameday footwear for all staff. Nobody likes to be told that kind of thing. And it's clear that they're not happy with the heavily regulated meal seating arrangements that are organized on a merit basis. No self-respecting coach will walk into a situation like that.

Is this a joke? Or does he really do that?

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Confusing thing to me is that there have reportedly been talks with people who run very different styles of offense. I'm not entirely sure they know what they want to do on offense.

 

[zydane47]

Urban is an offensive background guy.

Kiffin carries a play sheet, but he is calling the plays.

Can you find us a photo of Saban carrying a play sheet....?

You’re assuming the sheet Pruitt has is an offensive, maybe, just maybe it’s a defensive one.

 

[LWSVOL]

I get that type of interjection - but what about overall scheme and implementation. I just have a hard time seeing how that was ever Helton's scheme to begin with considering his tree. I guess we'll see this year at WKU.

I believe a head coach is going to want to have an understanding of and input on both of those items.. During the course of a game most HCs want to understand what is being called and how it conforms to the game plan. I recall Saban keeping close tabs on Kiffin during the course of a game. And Fulmer was a defensive guy but he and Chief had lots of interaction in a game and game planning.

I would really be surprised if any head coach ran a program and totally left one side of the ball alone. There may be some that way, but I would really be surprised about that..

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I dont think Pruitt exerts a lot of influence over the offense. Just my opinion, but I think he concentrates much more on the defense. I think Pruitt is trying ti be like Saban in that respect. Now as to why guys are turning it down? Well how many OCs have ACTUALLY tirned the job down? Yurcich did. Was it because of Pruitt? Maybe. Although him being an Ohio native and Urban leaving would seem to be the reasons to me.

I am sure huring an offensive coordinator is no easy task for a first time head coach entering his second year. Now I assume that Pruitt has an idea of what kind of offensive scheme he wants. And I woukd think that finding a guy that fits that mold can be difficult. Especially since he was the one who basically hired all the assistant coaches on the offensive side.

This OC search has been a roller coaster ride. People hearing rumors and making up crap what seems like every other day. The fact is, we know very little about this OC search. And until one is named, we will continue to be forced into using opinions and conjecture.

 

[LWSVOL]

Confusing thing to me is that there have reportedly been talks with people who run very different styles of offense. I'm not entirely sure they know what they want to do on offense.

I've seen a theory out there that says Pruitt did some interviews just to pick the brains of some of these guys. Just get a feel of philosophies and different offenses. I can't state with certainty that was what was happening but I have seen that theory mentioned.

 

[LWSVOL]

I dont think Pruitt exerts a lot of influence over the offense. Just my opinion, but I think he concentrates much more on the defense. I think Pruitt is trying ti be like Saban in that respect. Now as to why guys are turning it down? Well how many OCs have ACTUALLY tirned the job down? Yurcich did. Was it because of Pruitt? Maybe. Although him being an Ohio native and Urban leaving would seem to be the reasons to me.

I am sure huring an offensive coordinator is no easy task for a first time head coach entering his second year. Now I assume that Pruitt has an idea of what kind of offensive scheme he wants. And I woukd think that finding a guy that fits that mold can be difficult. Especially since he was the one who basically hired all the assistant coaches on the offensive side.

This OC search has been a roller coaster ride. People hearing rumors and making up crap what seems like every other day. The fact is, we know very little about this OC search. And until one is named, we will continue to be forced into using opinions and conjecture.

I do not believe anyone has turned the job down at this point. I do not think Pruitt has offered the job to a single person. It got close to an offer with Yurcich but never got to that point.. Only time it was close.

 

[volfannbama]

Is that the same Basilio who trashed our BBall coach for coming to collect a check while retiring for his first 2 seasons ... then has fallen strangely silent on the matter for the past 1.5 seasons? :-D Gotta love these guys.

Where do you get your news from? I'd love to see any media outlet that has been 100% accurate with their opinions.

 

[zydane47]

Urban had a defensive background? I wasnt aware.

I’ll say to you as I said to the other guy, you’re assuming the sheet is offensive plays, most likely it was a defensive play sheet, since you know, he was calling the defensive plays this year.

He mentions in the article below that he doesn’t call the offensive plays, that’s all Helton.

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[Dougie_D]

I feel like the best coaches out there can 1. Evaluate and find the best minds and 2. Develop them to be better coaches. This will ultimately lead to success in a program.
Urban Meyers had a lot of success through his first hires within his career... Dan Mullen was a steal
Bob Stoops was no dummy hiring Lincoln Riley and naming him his successor.
We all know what Saban has done.

I honestly don't know if I can trust Pruitt to be a good at finding talent within the coaching staff. He's only hired who he KNOWS.

 

[GoVols15]

All these people posting negative stuff about Pruitt's "difficult" coaching style are people who are eithier extremely gullible, negative thinking, or just like to post crap to get a comment, no proof! The truth is very few people know what Coach Pruitt's coaching style is. Certainly nobody posting on Volnation but it sure makes a good story.

Frankly, in the end it doesn't matter what his coaching style is. Bottom line what matters is wins and losses! The simple truth is time will tell how good a coach he is. The jury is still out but his coaching style, whatever it is, and Coach Pruitt has my support until he proves otherwise!

I just wish all these drama queens would grow up a little bit!

 

[Zues1]

I feel like the best coaches out there can 1. Evaluate and find the best minds and 2. Develop them to be better coaches. This will ultimately lead to success in a program.
Urban Meyers had a lot of success through his first hires within his career... Dan Mullen was a steal
Bob Stoops was no dummy hiring Lincoln Riley and naming him his successor.
We all know what Saban has done.

I honestly don't know if I can trust Pruitt to be a good at finding talent within the coaching staff. He's only hired who he KNOWS.

Did he know Helton ?

 

[Jaws]

Who is Urban Meyers?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I do not believe anyone has turned the job down at this point. I do not think Pruitt has offered the job to a single person. It got close to an offer with Yurcich but never got to that point.. Only time it was close.

I tend to agree. It reminds me of our HC search. People reported offers were made but nothing was really made official. Nobody on the staff has said anything about any real offers, neither has Fulmer. That leads me to believe that no real offers have been made.

 

[volfannbama]

It's so weird...we hire Pruitt and instantly:

Tennessee is competent at hiring coaches and deserves no scrutiny in doing so
Tennessee has zero talent and every service misevaluated every Tennessee signee for the last 4 years.
Noine in the media know anything, at all....none of then.
Noone knows what type of coach Pruitt is...noone.

Insane.

Opps forgot one...

Coaches are great before they coach their first game.

 

[butchna]

Did he know Helton ?

Or Coach YAC?

 

[volfannbama]

I tend to agree. It reminds me of our HC search. People reported offers were made but nothing was really made official. Nobody on the staff has said anything about any real offers, neither has Fulmer. That leads me to believe that no real offers have been made.

Why would Tennessee officially announce that they made offers and got turned down, just to look like idiots?

 

[butchna]

It's so weird...we hire Pruitt and instantly:

Tennessee is competent at hiring coaches and deserves no scrutiny in doing so
Tennessee has zero talent and every service misevaluated every Tennessee signee for the last 4 years.
Noine in the media know anything, at all....none of then.
Noone knows what type of coach Pruitt is...noone.

Insane.

lol You tend to exaggerate.

 

[butchna]

Why would Tennessee officially announce that they made offers and got turned down, just to look like idiots?

Edit: misunderstood what you quoted.

 

[IPleadInsanity]

I think he is having a hard time getting anyone he is interested in to become interested in the job. I mean reality is we are competing with Vanderbilt for next to last place and losing. Coming here is not a step up for the coaches he wants to hire and word is out on this administration. I know the admins put Fulmer in there to boost moral but it's not clear if he has any real power and the fact remains few people want to work for them. Anyway, I hope he gets someone he wants rather than taking the low hanging fruit.

 

[volfannbama]

Edit: misunderstood what you quoted.

Did I say they announced it?

 

[volfannbama]

I think he is having a hard time getting anyone he is interested in to become interested in the job. I mean reality is we are competing with Vanderbilt for next to last place and losing. Coming here is not a step up for the coaches he wants to hire and word is out on this administration. I know the admins put Fulmer in there to boost moral but it's not clear if he has any real power and the fact remains few people want to work for them. Anyway, I hope he gets someone he wants rather than taking the low hanging fruit.

The only thing you got wrong was you said we were competing with vandy. . He arent competing with Vandy, not even close.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Why would Tennessee officially announce that they made offers and got turned down, just to look like idiots?

What I meant was there has been no official word about anything. Just like the head coaching search. All rumors with literally nothing to back it up.