ISIS has a dirty bomb

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I really don't think a dirty bomb of uranium is feasible. Just seems so impractical. It's a weak alpha emitter (radiation that cannot penetrate skin). You can handle it with a glove...a glove. At worst it's an inhalation risk, but being a heavy metal, is that even practical?
 
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Weezy said:
I really don't think a dirty bomb of uranium is feasible. Just seems so impractical. It's a weak alpha emitter (radiation that cannot penetrate skin). You can handle it with a glove...a glove. At worst it's an inhalation risk, but being a heavy metal, is that even practical?
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Yep.
 
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hog88 said:
Devastating in the initial blast area but outside of say 1/2 mile at most, no.

The devastating effect is the public fear "radiation" and "terror" mixed together bring.
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Again, if you blow it up high enough, with wind, it could be a lot more devastating. Especially, in a very population/economically dense place like NYC.
 
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hog88 said:
It wouldn't be about death and destruction. It would be about fear and economic impact.

A large dirty bomb set off on Wall Street would shut the markets down for months for decon. The public would be scared ****less and the politicians win as we beg for them to take more of our liberty to keep us safe.
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Bingo
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Again, if you blow it up high enough, with wind, it could be a lot more devastating. Especially, in a very population/economically dense place like NYC.
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Depends on what material is used, uranium wouldn't do well. Strontium-90 maybe?

There's plenty of radioactive material out there, if dirty bombs were effective in causing mass destruction and death, one would have been used somewhere by now. One hasn't been used because even the terrorist know that the use of a radioactive weapon of an kind would be a trigger for us or Russia to take the gloves off. The reward isn't worth the risk.
 
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Remember the stolen cobalt 60 from Mexico? There's a reason you don't steal radioactive material...it's radioactive. Uranium isn't all that radioactive.
 
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Maybe they put it on Twitter because it's already here...

Sleeper cell.

What if something like this went off around a nuclear power plant?
 
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hog88 said:
Depends on what material is used, uranium wouldn't do well. Strontium-90 maybe?

There's plenty of radioactive material out there, if dirty bombs were effective in causing mass destruction and death, one would have been used somewhere by now. One hasn't been used because even the terrorist know that the use of a radioactive weapon of an kind would be a trigger for us or Russia to take the gloves off. The reward isn't worth the risk.
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What I outlined above would have been a best case scenario for them; which I have no confidence they could pull off nowadays. Obviously, uranium wouldn't be the best choice. Plenty of nuclear and hospital radioactive waste that admit beta particles and gamma rays.

From the article, I highly doubt that they weaponized the supposed stolen uranium (unless they had outside help).
 
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PKT_VOL said:
What I outlined above would have been a best case scenario for them; which I have no confidence they could pull off nowadays. Obviously, uranium wouldn't be the best choice. Plenty of nuclear and hospital radioactive waste that admit beta particles and gamma rays.

From the article, I highly doubt that they weaponized the supposed stolen uranium (unless they had outside help).
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Agreed, and if they have why waste it on a dirty bomb? Go for the mushroom cloud.
 
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hog88 said:
Agreed, and if they have why waste it on a dirty bomb? Go for the mushroom cloud.
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That takes quite a bit more technical knowledge, material, time, and machinery. Look at Iran.

The only way they get a mushroom cloud is if someone hands them a bomb.
 
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Dirty bomb has a very erotic, sexy sound to it. Will that dirty isis bomb do things my prim and proper bomb won't do?
 
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PKT_VOL said:
That takes quite a bit more technical knowledge, material, time, and machinery. Look at Iran.

The only way they get a mushroom cloud is if someone hands them a bomb.
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With their oil revenue it's just a matter of time before nk or Pakistan sells them one.
 
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hog88 said:
Devastating in the initial blast area but outside of say 1/2 mile at most, no.
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Meh. Sounds like what happens in my upstairs bathroom every morning of the week. Strike a match, leave the window open, and move along.
 
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Remember when they stole MH370, loaded it with nuclear bombs, and leveled the East Coast?
 
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hog88 said:
Decon the outside of the plant.
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You will have to excuse me, I don't know bombs. :)

But I guess the blast from one of these things is similar to dynamite? One stick? Two sticks?

Or the purpose of the bomb not the blast but the radiation?
 
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MercyPercy said:
I probably wouldn't have started a war over a suspicion.
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Then apparently you wouldn't trust any of your advisers; not the sign of a very good leader...

I believe that there might have been WMDs there before, but we gave him so much notice that he had plenty of time to have his muslim buddies take 'em and hide 'em. Besides, the WMD in Iraq was the 9mm pistol anyway. I'd still have turned him loose when Nick Berg's head was sawed off.... Some people do not deserve a democracy.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Then apparently you wouldn't trust any of your advisers; not the sign of a very good leader...

I believe that there might have been WMDs there before, but we gave him so much notice that he had plenty of time to have his muslim buddies take 'em and hide 'em. Besides, the WMD in Iraq was the 9mm pistol anyway. I'd still have turned him loose when Nick Berg's head was sawed off.... Some people do not deserve a democracy.
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Lol you're delusional.
 
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