Israel vs Palestinians

The last 200years change nothing. Before 1948 there was no peace in the land there were more Arabs than Jews and there was constant violence. The “peaceful pre48 crowd” likes to ignore that because it was widely the Jews being killed and oppressed so it was mostly peaceful. They like to talk about “the evil Zionist” but the reality is that Zionism is a response to those atrocities and starts long before 1948
That's a nice story for someone who wants the current status quo to continue, and, you contradict yourself. The last two centuries, and in particular the last 150 years, saw huge changes there; your comment addresses that.
Zionism grew because of atrocities in Europe against Jews, no?
 
That's a nice story for someone who wants the current status quo to continue, and, you contradict yourself. The last two centuries, and in particular the last 150 years, saw huge changes there; your comment addresses that.
Zionism grew because of atrocities in Europe against Jews, no?
Those same attitudes and actions against Jews didn't exist during and pre WWII in the land currently called Israel?

Or was it ok because they were just Jews?
 
Pretty messed up


That’s a dark side of the human condition. I remember when contractors went to New Orleans to help after the hurricane. There were tour groups coming through to see the disaster. It happened in Mexico Beach in Florida when we were helping out there.
If you think about it….that especially what the news does. Find the destruction and stand in front of it for the enjoyment of the mob.
 
Those same attitudes and actions against Jews didn't exist during and pre WWII in the land currently called Israel?

Or was it ok because they were just Jews?
To a certain extent but a) that's not the point and b) a lot of those attitudes and actions were stoked by Zionist immigration. The question is the impetus for Zionism, which per what i've read was European anti-Semitsm. The Levant isn't in Europe.
That last sentence makes no sense.
 
To a certain extent but a) that's not the point and b) a lot of those attitudes and actions were stoked by Zionist immigration. The question is the impetus for Zionism, which per what i've read was European anti-Semitsm. The Levant isn't in Europe.
That last sentence makes no sense.
Yeah, those pesky Jews, how dare they want to govern themselves and live in the land of their ancestors.

Where's all the hate for Native Americans who lament their stolen land?

Violence against Jews didn't start in the 19th century.
 
Yeah, those pesky Jews, how dare they want to govern themselves and live in the land of their ancestors.

Where's all the hate for Native Americans who lament their stolen land?

Violence against Jews didn't start in the 19th century.
Nice job (not really) of dodging the issue.
 
Nice job (not really) of dodging the issue.
You said it was due to Zionists. That's simply Jews wanting a state in their ancestral homeland isn't it? I mean even the definition states as much.

So Zionist immigration is or isn't the main driver?
 

BREAKING NEWS: US announces it's Sending Troops To the Middle East and warns Americans to leave Lebanon​


The U.S. is sending troops to the Middle East in response to the surge in violence between Israel and Hezbollah and as the region teeters on the edge of an all-out war.

 

BREAKING NEWS: US announces it's Sending Troops To the Middle East and warns Americans to leave Lebanon​


The U.S. is sending troops to the Middle East in response to the surge in violence between Israel and Hezbollah and as the region teeters on the edge of an all-out war.

whos making this decision?
 

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