It's apparent after Bryce Brown's performance tonight...

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Also, Barry wasn't exactly known for his work ethic in college.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I would guess that his dad looked at Dooley and immediately sized him up as a loser and demanded that Bryce get the hell out. Everything about his career up to that point makes sense. What I don't understand is what happened at KSU. He cost himself a ridiculous amount of money there.
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yeah. His dad must've thought snyder was a loser too. Nothing was Bryce's or his dad's fault. Always somebody else's.
Good to know you are teaching our youth
 
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zjcvols said:
Also, Barry wasn't exactly known for his work ethic in college.
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Are you high? No seriously...are you high?



In 1988, in what has been called the greatest individual season in college football history,[6] Sanders led the nation by averaging 7.6 yards per carry and over 200 yards per game, including rushing for over 300 yards in four games. Despite his massive workload of 344 carries, Sanders was still used as the team's punt and kickoff returner, adding another 516 yards on special teams. He set college football season records with 2,628 yards rushing, 3,248 total yards, 234 points, 39 touchdowns, 37 rushing touchdowns, 5 consecutive 200 yard games, scored at least 2 touchdowns in 11 consecutive games, and 9 times he scored at least 3 touchdowns. Sanders also ran for 222 yards and scored 5 touchdowns in his three quarters of action in the Holiday Bowl - a game that was not included with his season statistics.[7] Sanders won the Heisman Trophy as the season's most outstanding player.[8] He then chose to leave Oklahoma State before his senior season to enter the NFL draft.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
Are you high? No seriously...are you high?



In 1988, in what has been called the greatest individual season in college football history,[6] Sanders led the nation by averaging 7.6 yards per carry and over 200 yards per game, including rushing for over 300 yards in four games. Despite his massive workload of 344 carries, Sanders was still used as the team's punt and kickoff returner, adding another 516 yards on special teams. He set college football season records with 2,628 yards rushing, 3,248 total yards, 234 points, 39 touchdowns, 37 rushing touchdowns, 5 consecutive 200 yard games, scored at least 2 touchdowns in 11 consecutive games, and 9 times he scored at least 3 touchdowns. Sanders also ran for 222 yards and scored 5 touchdowns in his three quarters of action in the Holiday Bowl - a game that was not included with his season statistics.[7] Sanders won the Heisman Trophy as the season's most outstanding player.[8] He then chose to leave Oklahoma State before his senior season to enter the NFL draft.
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I know Barry's stats. Do you see the Lions logo underneath my avatar?

But he didn't have the greatest work ethic in college before Thomas left.

Also, he was notoriously a bad practice player for the Lions.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
yeah. His dad must've thought snyder was a loser too. Nothing was Bryce's or his dad's fault. Always somebody else's.
Good to know you are teaching our youth
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What kind of idiocy is this? I assume everybody's a mostly rational actor with their own self-interest in mind. Bryce's father's goal was to get Bryce to the NFL and make money, which is what Lane Kiffin was selling so well, which is why Bryce came to Knoxville in the first place. Once Kiffin and the Glamour Boys were gone and replaced by a nobody from the WAC, that reason was gone, so Bryce's dad pulled him home. Seems like a rational decision to me. Tennessee meant nothing to them apart from that coaching staff.

It's easy to crap on a college kid for not standing up to his dad, but why the hell should Bryce Brown have put UT over his father's wishes? He probably didn't even know what color we wear until Kiffin called.
 
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Yyyyeah... Bryce Brown sandbagged college so he could make $390,000 per year instead of $5.1 million plus a $13.6 million signing bonus like Trent Richardson did by playing in college.

Like you said, RBs have a short shelf life, so it makes sense not to make a lot of money in the short-term....wait this feels backwards...
 
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zjcvols said:
I know Barry's stats. Do you see the Lions logo underneath my avatar?

But he didn't have the greatest work ethic in college before Thomas left.

Also, he was notoriously a bad practice player for the Lions.
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If you are 19, how in the world do you know about somebody's college work ethic in '88?
 
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zjcvols said:
If he did decide this, who can blame him?

Running backs have a shelf life.
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Pretty slick way to beat the system.

Maurice Clarett's revolution has a messiah.


Gotta protect the rock though.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
If you are 19, how in the world do you know about somebody's college work ethic in '88?
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I read about sports. I'm a history major. History major+Undying love of sports=Useless info about sports.

I think you'd be shocked how much time I spend on sports.

Also, this is coming from multiple people in my family who were Lions fans.

Kind of sad :)
 
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Crew said:
Pretty slick way to beat the system.

Maurice Clarett's revolution has a messiah.
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By the way, I'm not saying it's the best way. Just saying it's not like this option is terrible.
 
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Also, Bryce's fumble are just a lack of carries. Doesn't have that necessary arm strength to avoid getting stripped.
 
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This is the reason why I believe these kids should have the option of going pro out of high school. Like baseball it should be there choice. I don't believe Bryce Brown or many other college players have any interest in a college education. Forcing them to attend something in order to make money at what they are good at is wrong in my opinion.

With that being said, I do think it is a poor choice for kids not to have an education in the event they get hurt, don't play to expectations, ect. I just think it should be there choice
 
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zjcvols said:
I read about sports. I'm a history major. History major+Undying love of sports=Useless info about sports.

I think you'd be shocked how much time I spend on sports.

Also, this is coming from multiple people in my family who were Lions fans.

Kind of sad :)
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not sure about the work ethic deal. Don't recall that at all. He was behind an all-american, so he's not going to carry the workload in practice. And he won the Heisman in '88 of course and you don't win by being lazy.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
not sure about the work ethic deal. Don't recall that at all. He was behind an all-american, so he's not going to carry the workload in practice. And he won the Heisman in '88 of course and you don't win by being lazy.
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Plenty of athletes can be lazy in college and dominate on pure athletic ability alone.
 
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GBO128 said:
This is the reason why I believe these kids should have the option of going pro out of high school. Like baseball it should be there choice. I don't believe Bryce Brown or many other college players have any interest in a college education. Forcing them to attend something in order to make money at what they are good at is wrong in my opinion.

With that being said, I do think it is a poor choice for kids not to have an education in the event they get hurt, don't play to expectations, ect. I just think it should be there choice
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It can be argued that baseball is the only sport that got it right from the outset, i.e. through the creation of an extensive minor league system as a proving ground for wouldbe major leaguers. College football, however, predated the advent of pro football by decades and, indeed, was initially rooted in Ivy League schools. Hence, it was philosophically predicated upon the "student-athlete" concept.

Personally, I have great respect for an athlete who struggles mightily just to maintain a 2.0 GPA, but I have no respect whatsoever for athletes who refuse to exert themselves academically. As much as I love Tennessee football, I love the University of Tennessee, my alma mater, more. UT and all of her peer institutions exist, first and foremost, as institutions of higher learning.

Intercollegiate athletics, on the other hand, provide a host of benefits to society. General Douglas MacArthur astutely declared that "On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory," an observation that our own beloved General Neyland would undoubtedly second. In the greater scheme of things, provision of training for a possible career in the NFL, by contrast, is distinctly secondary to a university's primary mission.
 
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