Jameis Winston back in the news again

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zjcvols said:
You started talking about how the investigation was BS which doesn't have anything to do with this particular case.
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You mean the ongoing investigation as required by Title IX?

Might not be the best time for him to draw attention to his character...
 
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zjcvols said:
Extremely offensive? Oh come on. Calling a gay man a "*********" is extremely offensive. A white man calling a black man "******" in a mean tone is offensive. Having a professional football team called the Redskins is offensive.

Saying "**** her in the *****"? Inappropriate but not extremely offensive
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I'm a woman. I find it extremely offensive, especially when hollered out in a large public setting.

I don't consider it cursing. It's all the words strung together.

I realize that it might not register as extremely offensive to a lot of guys. :hi:


eta: I work in a nearly all-male environment (VA.) Not much bothers me, including language. This does. TIFWIW
 
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zjcvols said:
Offensive to me is offending one's race, religion, ethnicity. Saying something sexual just isn't offensive to me.
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Chances are you're not a female.

Chances are you don't have a daughter, let alone one old enough to be on the same campus as the big man on campus accused of raping another student.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Chances are you're not a female.

Chances are you don't have a daughter, let alone one old enough to be on the same campus as the big man on campus accused of raping another student.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Ah the old "You don't understand" argument. Always effective.

I do have an 18 year old sister who is in college. While she would find it stupid and inappropriate she wouldn't be offended because there isn't really anything to be offended about with a sex act being uttered.
 
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zjcvols said:
Stupid, inappropriate, juvenile but no not offensive.

Maybe I just have a different idea of what offensive is.
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Here's a simple experiment. Find the most public place where you work. Get on the table and do a Jameis.

See what happens and report back.
 
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zjcvols said:
Ah the old "You don't understand" argument. Always effective.

I do have an 18 year old sister who is in college. While she would find it stupid and inappropriate she wouldn't be offended because there isn't really anything to be offended about with a sex act being uttered.
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Thanks for validating my assumption...you DON'T understand.

Your perspective differs from that of a parent, that's all I'm saying. Not saying I'm right and you're wrong.

When/if you have a daughter, and you still feel the same way then as you do now, I'd be very surprised.
 
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volinbham said:
Here's a simple experiment. Find the most public place where you work. Get on the table and do a Jameis.

See what happens and report back.
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1) He didn't say it at a workplace he said it in a college cafeteria. There is a difference.

2) Did I ever say it was correct to say it? No. My point being that make him run stairs for days. If that's all he said and he was honest about the situation, I'm sorry, but a 20 year old saying a sex act in public isn't suspension worthy.
 
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zjcvols said:
1) He didn't say it at a workplace he said it in a college cafeteria. There is a difference.

2) Did I ever say it was correct to say it? No. My point being that make him run stairs for days. If that's all he said and he was honest about the situation, I'm sorry, but a 20 year old saying a sex act in public isn't suspension worthy.
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I'd argue the college is his workplace.

Obviously the suspension is the accumulated dumbassery that is JW. I don't see a problem with that.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Thanks for validating my assumption.

Your perspective differs from that of a parent, that's all I'm saying. Not saying I'm right and you're wrong.

When/if you have a daughter, and you still feel the same way then as you do now, I'd be very surprised.
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This is true. There were things that just made me roll my eyes before I had kids, but after having three of them, the same stuff made me go ballistic.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Thanks for validating my assumption.

Your perspective differs from that of a parent, that's all I'm saying. Not saying I'm right and you're wrong.

When/if you have a daughter, and you still feel the same way then as you do now, I'd be very surprised.
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Ask 18-22 year old girls what they would and I bet a really high amount would either a) laugh b) roll eyes or c) ignore them
 
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I'm glad FSU decided to suspend him for the whole game. Guy most likely belongs in prison and is a creep at best. I'm tired of people trying to rationalize the actions of big-time athletes. Let me tell you a little something about big-time athletes. I've taught a lot of them. Most of them are idiots. There.
 
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volprof said:
I'm glad FSU decided to suspend him for the whole game. Guy most likely belongs in prison and is a creep at best. I'm tired of people trying to rationalize the actions of big-time athletes. Let me tell you a little something about big-time athletes. I've taught a lot of them. Most of them are idiots. There.
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You know how campus discipline works. If any student on campus did this they'd probably at least have to go through the student judicial board (assuming people complained).

I served on the judicial board at my last school - the students are often tougher on fellow students then the faculty were.
 
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volinbham said:
You know how campus discipline works. If any student on campus did this they'd probably at least have to go through the student judicial board (assuming people complained).

I served on the judicial board at my last school - the students are often tougher on fellow students then the faculty were.
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They won't hesitate to take anyone to Office of Equity and Diversity or other official review boards. Only tangentially related, but I had a colleague once (when we were GTAs) have a student complain about him cutting classes too short. That's right, a college student actually complained to a review board about not having to sit in class the entire time. You never know what they'll be offended by or do, that's for sure.
 
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volprof said:
They won't hesitate to take anyone to Office of Equity and Diversity or other official review boards. Only tangentially related, but I had a colleague once (when we were GTAs) have a student complain about him cutting classes too short. That's right, a college student actually complained to a review board about not having to sit in class the entire time. You never know what they'll be offended by or do, that's for sure.
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sounds very familiar - for institutions of higher learning and free thinking they sure are bureaucratic, PC and rule bound :crazy:
 
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