James Franklin is supposedly....

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SDV said:
Texas has screwed this up worse than we did
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I really don't believe we know who Texas has and hasn't spoken to, outside of maybe Briles. Too much leakage and "misses" for a program of their prestige. I'd be shocked if they end up with someone who doesn't have TX recruiting ties, like a Saban, Miles, Briles, Graham (regardless of his contract) or Malzahn. No way a program like TX settles for Franklin. They'd be better off offering the job to Chad Morris and saving themselves a boat load of money than taking Franklin.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
Yeah it doesnt matter. Joe Pa was cleared too and he got dragged thru the mud. Franklin was still the man in charge of the players that commited the crime.
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It. Will. Have. No. Effect. on him getting another job.
You think he's condemned to coach at Vandy for eternity because of something he had nothing to do with?

He's already confirmed to be interviewing for the PSU job on Sunday. Obviously, it's not an issue for them.
 
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Franklin may be the luckiest sob in cf right now if strong goes to Texas and golden to Penn st. Then he would probably be the top pick for the Miami job.
 
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white65 said:
Franklin may be the luckiest sob in cf right now if strong goes to Texas and golden to Penn st. Then he would probably be the top pick for the Miami job.
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I'm not sure he would go to Miami, but then again, he's running out of options at this point.

Apparently he won't leave Vandy for less than a top 10 job, but how many of those will be open any time soon? The only reason to stay at Vandy another year is if he thinks he can get the UF job next year. And there's no guarantee Muschamp gets fired.

Plus, he runs the risk of staying too long and watching his stock drop.
 
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And that isn't just a risk; it is almost a certainty. Butch is already beating the unholy feces out of him on the recruiting trail. The onfield whippings will commence soon thereafter.
 
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Aesius said:
I'm not sure he would go to Miami, but then again, he's running out of options at this point.

Apparently he won't leave Vandy for less than a top 10 job, but how many of those will be open any time soon? The only reason to stay at Vandy another year is if he thinks he can get the UF job next year. And there's no guarantee Muschamp gets fired.

Plus, he runs the risk of staying too long and watching his stock drop.
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he may well have a losing season at VU this year in which case all bets are off. I believe that the unresolved rape cases are holding him down or he'd already be gone.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
he may well have a losing season at VU this year in which case all bets are off. I believe that the unresolved rape cases are holding him down or he'd already be gone.
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I definitely wouldn't be in a rush if I were him. He has changed the way scheduling is done at Vanderbilt to ensure an extra win (or two), he has recruited better than they have ever recruited, and he has no expectations placed upon him by crazy fans or media outlets. He can wait for a perfect scenario for himself, and he should. I still hope he leaves though. Vanderbilt is just one more team in our way. The majority of their true fans went to school there. The rest don't deserve a guy who can actually coach football because they are pretty much a group of people who are defined not by their Vanderbilt fandom, but instead by their hatred of UT. To those people I offer a '**** you!'
 
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Obsessed said:
Petrino to vandy? (If Franklin leaves)

That would be bad
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No way Vandy stoops to that level especially with the rape case hanging over the program. I too believe that is what is holding Franklin back.
 
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Vol_Maul said:
I definitely wouldn't be in a rush if I were him. He has changed the way scheduling is done at Vanderbilt to ensure an extra win (or two), he has recruited better than they have ever recruited, and he has no expectations placed upon him by crazy fans or media outlets. He can wait for a perfect scenario for himself, and he should. I still hope he leaves though. Vanderbilt is just one more team in our way. The majority of their true fans went to school there. The rest don't deserve a guy who can actually coach football because they are pretty much a group of people who are defined not by their Vanderbilt fandom, but instead by their hatred of UT. To those people I offer a '**** you!'
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This the the perfect scenario, USC, Texas, PSU and perhaps Miami all came open in the same season! That's 3 top 10 programs all- time with Miami not far behind. You're not going to find too many seasons where that many of those types of jobs open up.

UF and Michigan may be there in a yr or two but for the most part, if he missed out this year it may be 5+ yrs before he gets another chance.
 
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Goldens name has been popping up, but some are worried about how he has underachieved at Miami. .
 
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OrangeBalls said:
It's harder to find a more delusional fan base than Vandy. Just by them even thinking that Vandy is a better job than Penn St just shows how idiotic and truly delusional they are.
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I found one it's called University of Tennessee. They had Kiffen and Dooley back to back and thought they were going to lead them back to the top. 5 straight years of the worst football in school history. They make fun of teams that make bowl games when they can't. Tell me that isn't delusional. Penn State has 2 more years of probation and scholarship restrictions. Not to mention the Joe Pa politics.
 
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Obsessed said:
Petrino to vandy? (If Franklin leaves)

That would be bad
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You might even see Petrino back to L'ville. He certainly had plenty of success there. They may or may not want him back, but it would be a quick fix to keep a search from dragging out, and try to salvage the the recruiting season.

Stranger things have happened.
 
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immyaxl said:
I found one it's called University of Tennessee. They had Kiffen and Dooley back to back and thought they were going to lead them back to the top. 5 straight years of the worst football in school history. They make fun of teams that make bowl games when they can't. Tell me that isn't delusional. Penn State has 2 more years of probation and scholarship restrictions. Not to mention the Joe Pa politics.
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We missed 3 bowls in 5 years, you missed about 80 in a row.

You're also delusional as hell if you think Franklin is going to stick around past 2015, and that's if he doesn't leave by Monday.

Your program has peaked and you will never get top recruits. Hell, you can probably kiss Emmanuel Smith good bye if Franklin leaves.

Your superiority complex after winning two games is pathetic. Your team will never win the SEC, will never win the East, will never make a BCS Bowl, and will probably never beat UT again. Even your coach recognizes that it isn't even close to being a competitive rivalry.

People like you make it so easy to hate Vandy.
 
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Aesius said:
I'm not sure he would go to Miami, but then again, he's running out of options at this point.

Apparently he won't leave Vandy for less than a top 10 job, but how many of those will be open any time soon? The only reason to stay at Vandy another year is if he thinks he can get the UF job next year. And there's no guarantee Muschamp gets fired.

Plus, he runs the risk of staying too long and watching his stock drop.
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He's getting paid a lot where he's at. The expectations on a local and national level are low. He still doesn't have all his recruits yet and has won more games than they have in 100 years. His family loves Nashville and wants to stay. If he has a losing season he won't be fired. All that sounds pretty good in this day and age of college football.
 
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immyaxl said:
He's getting paid a lot where he's at. The expectations on a local and national level are low. He still doesn't have all his recruits yet and has won more games than they have in 100 years. His family loves Nashville and wants to stay. If he has a losing season he won't be fired. All that sounds pretty good in this day and age of college football.[/QUOTE
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immyaxl said:
He's getting paid a lot where he's at. The expectations on a local and national level are low. He still doesn't have all his recruits yet and has won more games than they have in 100 years. His family loves Nashville and wants to stay. If he has a losing season he won't be fired. All that sounds pretty good in this day and age of college football.
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These may be valid points, but the argument over Franklin's obvious displeasure with the lack of fan/community support is valid as well. It's not unrealistic to expect a population of a million people to support a winning team enough to fill a 40k seat stadium.

And I just don"t know that the university will ever put out the money to really compete with the rest of the conference, as far as facilities and such.
 
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Easttnken said:
These may be valid points, but the argument over Franklin's obvious displeasure with the lack of fan/community support is valid as well. It's not unrealistic to expect a population of a million people to support a winning team enough to fill a 40k sear sradium.
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Most all of those people support other teams. Are UT fans going to suddenly become Vandy fans? They only have like 6,000 students on campus. All the alumni live in other parts of the country. The crowds have been growing but it's still going to take time. They have come a long way from the 1,500 fans that showed up for Robbie Caldwell's last game!
 
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Aesius said:
We missed 3 bowls in 5 years, you missed about 80 in a row.

You're also delusional as hell if you think Franklin is going to stick around past 2015, and that's if he doesn't leave by Monday.

Your program has peaked and you will never get top recruits. Hell, you can probably kiss Emmanuel Smith good bye if Franklin leaves.

Your superiority complex after winning two games is pathetic. Your team will never win the SEC, will never win the East, will never make a BCS Bowl, and will probably never beat UT again. Even your coach recognizes that it isn't even close to being a competitive rivalry.

People like you make it so easy to hate Vandy.[/QUOT

I feel the same about U!
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Easttnken said:
These may be valid points, but the argument over Franklin's obvious displeasure with the lack of fan/community support is valid as well. It's not unrealistic to expect a population of a million people to support a winning team enough to fill a 40k seat stadium.

And I just don"t know that the university will ever put out the money to really compete with the rest of the conference, as far as facilities and such.
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New locker rooms, new weight rooms, 31 million dollar indoor, new turf on the field and stadium renovations seem serious to me.
 
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immyaxl said:
Most all of those people support other teams. Are UT fans going to suddenly become Vandy fans? They only have like 6,000 students on campus. All the alumni live in other parts of the country. The crowds have been growing but it's still going to take time. They have come a long way from the 1,500 fans that showed up for Robbie Caldwell's last game!
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As starved for winning seasons as Vandy has been, I wouldn't expect drawing crowds to take a lot of time. Folks should be flocking to West End in droves to support a winning team.

I understand fans of other teams live there, but I would still expect them to find 40k, out of a million people, to support them, especially when tickets are relatively inexpensive.

When Tommy West was winning 8 games a year and going to bowl games at Memphis, they had larger crowds than Vandy. And, they were drawing crowds while playing a CUSA schedule, not bringing in ranked SEC teams each week.

I agree Franklin has done a decent job there, I just think the potential is limited at Vandy and he'll bolt for a school where his team is a larger part of the landscape...jmo
 
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As much as Vandy has improved it has just about maxed out. Franklin knows that. Vandy can improve all they want but will never see the inside of the georgia dome or go to a big bowl. I don't get why their fans act the way they do after 2 good yrs. pretty funny. UT won't be down much longer though.

Plus Franklin has interviewed with the Texans and will interview with the Redskins and Browns. He will also interview with Penn State. His name is in the hat for every job. its clear he will be gone by 2015 if he is not gone by next week. Vandy wont hire a coach remotely on his level on the next hire either.
 
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