Jason Shay resigned at ETSU

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walkenvol said:
I don’t have a strong opinion on this topic personally. I think I understand why many folks, especially those who served in the military are emotionally opposed to any perceived disrespect to our country. I also think I understand why many minorities feel the system is biased against them and their desire to bring attention to that.

What I struggle to understand is why the coach would feel that during his working hours he was free to participate in political activities. I’ve always felt that during working hours I’ve sold my time to my employer and that time was to be spent fulfilling my job responsibilities and not my own interest. I always understood after working hours is the appropriate time for my personal interests. I guess the coach is in a hard spot if his players are asking him to participate in the political statement, but he’s a well paid grown man and dealing with young men is what he signed up to do.
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I hate to get all Dwight Shrute here but something tells me you do stuff all the time that is personal interest and has nothing to do with your job responsbilities.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Put me on ignore them. Sports should be non-political and I’m in the group who believe you always honor the flag and stand at attention for the National Anthem.
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If sports are supposed to be non political then why do we play the anthem at every single freaking sporting event
 
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zjcvols said:
So if showing respect and honor is not a political action, how is kneeling during the anthem a political action?
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IMO you are dishonoring your country. This is one traditional custom to show your thankfulness for those who have fought and died for your freedom as an US citizen. It’s like a homeless person giving someone a middle finger to someone who just provided a free meal.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
IMO you are dishonoring your country. This is one traditional custom to show your thankfulness for those who have fought and died for your freedom as an US citizen. It’s like a homeless person giving someone a middle finger to someone who just provided a free meal.
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Ah so how you handle the anthem is okay and not a political action, but how someone else might choose to handle the anthem would be wrong and dishonoring the country and now it’s political because they don’t agree to your thinking.

Got it.
 
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I, a middling high school basketball and baseball player, personally hated the anthem being played right before a game. I’d get pumped and amped up being getting focused and then I had to stand for 90 seconds for a slow song being still and trying to focus completely on the game. If we just stopped playing it before games none of this would be a problem.
 
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zjcvols said:
Ah so how you handle the anthem is okay and not a political action, but how someone else might choose to handle the anthem would be wrong and dishonoring the country and now it’s political because they don’t agree to your thinking.

Got it.
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Very North Korean of them.
 
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zjcvols said:
Ah so how you handle the anthem is okay and not a political action, but how someone else might choose to handle the anthem would be wrong and dishonoring the country and now it’s political because they don’t agree to your thinking.

Got it.
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I believe my prior post still beats your rebuttal. Honoring the country is not taking a political stance IMO. It should be a action that all people can appreciate regarding of any political position or party. It’s a opportunity to unite , not divide.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
IMO you are dishonoring your country. This is one traditional custom to show your thankfulness for those who have fought and died for your freedom as an US citizen. It’s like a homeless person giving someone a middle finger to someone who just provided a free meal.
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So to get serious for a second, it is disrespectful if a team decides to stay in the locker room until the anthem is over?
 
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zjcvols said:
I, a middling high school basketball and baseball player, personally hated the anthem being played right before a game. I’d get pumped and amped up being getting focused and then I had to stand for 90 seconds for a slow song being still and trying to focus completely on the game. If we just stopped playing it before games none of this would be a problem.
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I have to agree with this. I despised the anthem before games when I was playing for the exact reasons you said. I believe it was the Mavericks in the NBA who stopped playing it for like 13 games and no one even noticed. Just save the anthem for big events. Super Bowls, national championships, etc.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I believe my prior post still beats your rebuttal. Honoring the country is not taking a political stance IMO. It should be a action that all people can appreciate regarding of any political position or party.
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Forcing a specific action to be deemed the correct way to "honor the country" 100% is.
 
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creekerballer said:
I have to agree with this. I despised the anthem before games when I was playing for the exact reasons you said. I believe it was the Mavericks in the NBA who stopped playing it for like 13 games and no one even noticed. Just save the anthem for big events. Super Bowls, national championships, etc.
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From what I understand most countries don't do it before every sporting event and usually only save it for when it makes sense, i.e. the national team in a sport is playing another country.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Showing respect and honor to your country is not necessarily a political action. Supporting one political party or specific political stances are.
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Standing and holding your hand over your chest and taking your hat off during the anthem is a political act. It is literally an act to express loyalty and support for a political entity. In your view, this is the default and any shift is now political?

All I hear is “supporting the politics that I agree with isn’t political”. I love the US and am proud to be an American but some of your views need to be re-examined.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Forcing a specific action to be deemed the correct way to "honor the country" 100% is.
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I don’t agree with you. If I was an owner I would require it. If a player doesn’t like it then he has the opportunity to quit and find employment elsewhere. All work places have rules in place for conduct and actions by an employee that reflect negatively on the company are not allowed in many.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
From what I understand most countries don't do it before every sporting event and usually only save it for when it makes sense, i.e. the national team in a sport is playing another country.
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And I’m fine with that, especially for Olympics. I just don’t get why we play it for EVERY SINGLE EVENT especially this past year where we had little fans.
 
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