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Playing the national anthem has only become a political issue by people who have made it as such by protesting it. You can make just about anything political but that’s not a reason to wipe it from regular society. Part of their problem protesting the anthem is that it’s a distraction. The aim of these protests isn’t to have the anthem quit being played but now that’s what the argument boils down to. They can not play it and then what? What is accomplished? Racism solved?
 
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LouderVol said:
Sounds pretty communist to me.
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I think I read something about Germany under Hitler and how he executed those who deviated from traditional patriotic displays. That's basically what these guys are wanting.
 
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golfballs said:
Playing the national anthem has only become a political issue by people who have made it as such by protesting it. You can make just about anything political but that’s not a reason to wipe it from regular society. Part of their problem protesting the anthem is that it’s a distraction. The aim of these protests isn’t to have the anthem quit being played but now that’s what the argument boils down to. They can not play it and then what? What is accomplished? Racism solved?
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It's only a distraction if you give it attention. Just ignore it, snowflake.
 
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golfballs said:
Playing the national anthem has only become a political issue by people who have made it as such by protesting it. You can make just about anything political but that’s not a reason to wipe it from regular society. Part of their problem protesting the anthem is that it’s a distraction. The aim of these protests isn’t to have the anthem quit being played but now that’s what the argument boils down to. They can not play it and then what? What is accomplished? Racism solved?
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Meh, not really. The anthem was being politicized years before the Kaepernick situation...

How the NFL sold patriotism to the U.S. military for millions

As recently as 2015, the Department of Defense was doling out millions to the NFL for such things as military flyovers, flag unfurlings, emotional color guard ceremonies, enlistment campaigns, and — interestingly enough — national anthem performances. Additionally, according to Vice, the NFL’s policy on players standing for the national anthem also changed in 2009, with athletes “encouraged” thereafter to participate. Prior to that, teams were not given any specific instructions on the matter; some chose to remain in the locker room until after opening ceremonies were completed. (It’s unclear whether the policy change was implemented as a direct result of any Defense Department contracts.)
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McDad said:
It's only a distraction if you give it attention. Just ignore it, snowflake.
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Ignoring it would have been the answer 4-5 years ago when all of this crap started. But no, the right wing snowflakes had to get all emo and get into hissy fit over something that really has no direct affect on their every day lives.

But let these guys steal an election and the don't say or do squat.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Ignoring it would have been the answer 4-5 years ago when all of this crap started. But no, the right wing snowflakes had to get all emo and get into hissy fit over something that really has no direct affect on their every day lives.

But let these guys steal an election and the don't say or do squat.
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How does the national anthem have any direct affect on the every day life of Colin Kaepernick and all the other athletes after him? Who are the snowflakes on this issue?
 
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McDad said:
What are you saying...you ignore it but get your panties in a bunch anyway?
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I thought my post was a reasonable, objective take. Seems like you’re being quite sensitive over this issue yourself. My post specifically said it’s a distraction from the aim of their protests. Which is true. Now the conversation becomes whether we play it at the events at all. So when they quit playing the anthem, which was not what their protests were set out to do, then what? It won’t have actually solved any of their problems, they’ll just have to find another way to protest.
 
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golfballs said:
I thought my post was a reasonable, objective take. Seems like you’re being quite sensitive over this issue yourself. My post specifically said it’s a distraction from the aim of their protests. Which is true. Now the conversation becomes whether we play it at the events at all. So when they quit playing the anthem, which was not what their protests were set out to do, then what? It won’t have actually solved any of their problems, they’ll just have to find another way to protest.
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How can you or I understand the aim of their protests without having lived their life. It seems to me the protests and the reaction of redneck america is facilitating conversation which is helping.
 
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McDad said:
You're gonna force Americans to stand just because it's a sensitive subject for you?
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No, I wouldn’t force athletes or anyone else too, but d-1and pro athletes are some of the luckiest people in this nation. It is sad that they have been convinced that they are not. If Bill Gatton doesn’t agree with kneeling then it’s his prerogative to not give the program millions of dollars. Biting the hand that feeds you rarely turns out well.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Maybe im wrong, but if this is all it is (not trying to minimize the situation) and there is no AA smoke as well I can see him landing another spot pretty soon.
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Maybe..... it didn’t have a real impressive year.... depends on if another school thinks he can..... just his first season so probably not his fault but still.
 
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jarnol32 said:
No, I wouldn’t force them too, but they are some of the luckiest people in this nation. It’s just sad that they’ve been convinced that they are not...
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Why is it that privileged white America is trying to dictate how other America is supposed to feel?
Those athletes don't want your pity or think what they are feeling is sad.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
From the people I have met who served and even those who didn’t serve, they don’t like the current trend of not standing for the National Anthem. Most are middle aged or older like myself.
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You and those you talk about need to get over it or don't, pull your donations and support if you feel that strongly But under NO circumstances should anyone be calling for government involvement.
 
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hog88 said:
You and those you talk about need to get over it or don't, pull your donations and support if you feel that strongly But under NO circumstances should anyone be calling for government involvement.
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Government should stay far away from this issue.
 
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McDad said:
Why is it that privileged white America is trying to dictate how other America is supposed to feel?
Those athletes don't want your pity or think what their feeling is sad.
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That is both good and bad..... just look how the media/social media portrays how they should feel.
 
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