Jim Tressel (merged)

#726
#726
JMSqb11 said:
With 3 star recruits? Doubtful. No way that he can recruit now. No parent is gonna be able to take him seriously.
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He's always had 2 and 3* recruits and his overall is 75-26. He's never had the best recruits and still managed 10 and 11 win seasons in the SEC.

Plus if he's successful, recruits will come.
 
#727
#727
chumleypm said:
He's always had 2 and 3* recruits and his overall is 75-26. He's never had the best recruits and still managed 10 and 11 win seasons in the SEC.
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Yet he has been able to win a meaningful game. And if he has always had 2-3 star recruits and that is his normal, what makes you think he can continue to recruit what he is used to now with all the baggage?
 
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#729
JMSqb11 said:
Yet he has been able to win a meaningful game. And if he has always had 2-3 star recruits and that is his normal, what makes you think he can continue to recruit what he is used to now with all the baggage?
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I don't guess I understand what you mean by meaningful game, he's beat LSU twice, nobody has beaten Alabama much. Just playing for UT in the SEC should get some recruits at first, and if he wins then it wouldn't be an issue. I don't think it matters, he won't be here. I just hope he isn't hanging 60 on if us he goes to Auburn.
 
#730
#730
chumleypm said:
I don't guess I understand what you mean by meaningful game, he's beat LSU twice, nobody has beaten Alabama much. Just playing for UT in the SEC should get some recruits at first, and if he wins then it wouldn't be an issue. I don't think it matters, he won't be here. I just hope he isn't hanging 60 on if us he goes to Auburn.
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Agree to disagree. To me he is not that good of a coach. It's gets to a point where you can win as much as you want but you have to make even more progress and he has yet have a meaningful win that launched his career at Arky.
 
#731
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chumleypm said:
He's always had 2 and 3* recruits and his overall is 75-26. He's never had the best recruits and still managed 10 and 11 win seasons in the SEC.

Plus if he's successful, recruits will come.
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The thing I find most impressive about Petrino and his coaching is every year he showed improvement. CUSA 9 wins then 11. Moved to BE and had 9 wins then 11. 4 years at Arkansas and the record got better every year. When your buiding or rebuilding, thats all you can ask for IMO.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
The thing I find most impressive about Petrino and his coaching is every year he showed improvement. CUSA 9 wins then 11. Moved to BE and had 9 wins then 11. 4 years at Arkansas and the record got better every year. When your buiding or rebuilding, thats all you can ask for IMO.
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I would totally support his hiring, but I said it in another thread, debating for him equals coaching ability vs. "well, he's a scumbag".
 
#734
#734
Tressel is the best big name for Ut. Even with a show cause. It isn't that big of a deal in the scope of things. He is a proven recruiter and a proven winner on the big stage. He is the biggest name we could go for. But, I doubt Hart will go for a big name and feel he will settle for what he sees as another up and coming. At this point, I am really questioning either Harts loyalty or his ability if not both!
 
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#735
#735
Tressel is by far the most proven winner and recruiter available. It's not like he got caught paying players or throwing money around. He didn't report tattoos that his players were getting. If we have any will to win we will go after Tressel, a proven winner and a big name. Considering the other names : Strong, Gokden, Fisher. To me it's a no-brainier
 
#736
#736
Yeah, let's hire a coach who will be around for about 6 weeks out of the whole year. Fall camp? Nope. 1st 5 games? Nope. 5 weeks of Bowl Prep? Nope. Bowl Game? Nope.

Sounds like a hell of a deal.


:eek:lol:
 
#737
#737
Some of the latest or latest list out there don't include Tressel or Petrino. They do however include...

Butch Jones and Bo Pelini

...has anyone seen or heard if Tressel is even interested in getting a coaching gig? All I've seen is linking him to rumors but he hasn't come out and made any statement saying yea or ney.
 
#738
#738
Tressel is by far the most proven winner and recruiter available. It's not like he got caught paying players or throwing money around. He didn't report tattoos that his players were getting. If we have any will to win we will go after Tressel, a proven winner and a big name. Considering the other names : Strong, Gokden, Fisher. To me it's a no-brainier
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Yeah, let's hire a coach who will be around for about 6 weeks out of the whole year. Fall camp? Nope. 1st 5 games? Nope. 5 weeks of Bowl Prep? Nope. Bowl Game? Nope.

Sounds like a hell of a deal.


:eek:lol:
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You are supposing we make it to a bowl and that is for the first year. Better yet let's hire another loser who will be around for the next three or four years - never miss a game and seldom win one either. Yes. Your idea is much better! This would be for the first year and wouldn't stop him from recruiting. Look at the schedule. The first three games are wins the next two are losses no matter who is coaching. Take it on the chin year one and he would rebuild this program. He is an accomplished big name hire
 
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deckerkd said:
You are supposing we make it to a bowl and that is for the first year. Better yet let's hire another loser who will be around for the next three or four years - never miss a game and seldom win one either. Yes. Your idea is much better! This would be for the first year and wouldn't stop him from recruiting. Look at the schedule. The first three games are wins the next two are losses no matter who is coaching. Take it on the chin year one and he would rebuild this program. He is an accomplished big name hire
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While I do agree with you, it won't happen. I think he would be a steal but Hart won't go down that path. He will coach again eventually, and he will lead that team to bowl games just like at OSU.
 
#746
#746
Who cares what his record is against the SEC? He's won a NC and been at it three times. Ten straight bowl appearances. Coach of the Year honors. The worst his team ever ranked was 19th. I'll put Tressel's record up against Gruden's if that's the case.
 
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SandoVOL said:
What part of "show cause" do people not understand.
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So he misses 5 games, bowl prep, and the bowl game. Like OP said, we win 3 and lose 2 of the first 5 no matter who is coaching. We will miss a bowl game so bowl prep won't matter. Next year is a rebuilding year regardless..:salute:
 
#749
#749
VOLorNuttin said:
Before reading my post, try and take a few moments to read this article:
Jim Tressel could get hired after*flimsy NCAA show-cause penalty - Andy Staples - SI.com

I still say that Tressel might be the right guy and an absolute STEAL. I like Charlie Strong too and I think he could recruit with the best of 'em in the SEC, but with Tressel, his (and OSU's) loss...in regards to the NCAA trouble he got into...could be our gain.

Had he not gotten into that trouble, he'd still be coaching OSU right now...still a thorn in the side of Michigan and Penn State every year, and still one of the most successful College coaches today. I mean, record and recruiting wise, he's in the same conversation as Saban, Meyer and Stoops.

We'd only have to have him sit for 5 games, in order to get him. A 5 year NCAA Show Cause is NOT a coaching ban. It is simply a way to prevent a coach from dodging penalties he'd have to pay if he stayed put.

First of all...I think it's the rest of the Big 10 fanbase making much to do about absolutely NOTHING. Just like Bruce Pearl having a recruit over for a barbeque. Big freakin whoop. It was simply a matter of him trying to cover it up...why? Because they didn't want the NCAA trying to overblow the whole thing. I'm not condoning either coaches handling. But I do think the NCAA has a way of trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I'm sure he felt his players didn't deserve to get raked across the coals for something little like that.

Of course opposing fanbases are going to raise a big fuss. They want some relief from being terrorized by the guy every year. The NCAA is punishing him and OSU for him not putting the Hammer down on some of his players selling some of their stuff.

How in the hell is that even something to be penalized over? And no wonder he wanted to keep the NCAA out of their business. It's none of their damned business in the first place.I don't give a rat's behind if Terrell Pryor sells his jersey or not. So, IMHO, it's not something I think an AD should be concerned about. The guy paid/is paying their stupid freaking penalty, and I'm sure he'd not be inclined to do anything like it again.

But if Gruden is out of the question, Tressel would be a steal. He'd take considerably less than what he was making at OSU (especially if the AD can't get the NCAA to reduce the penalty down from 5 games...maybe 5 non-conference games instead of the first 5 of the season?), and that could help a great deal in getting the absolute best staff possible, while making Dooley's buyout easier to swallow.
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I agree. Lets go over Tressels credentials
229-79 head coaching record
23-6 tournament record
12 time coach of the year
6 Big Ten championships
4 division 1AA national championships
1 div 1A national championships
Now compare that to these other fall back options!
 
#750
#750
SandoVOL said:
What part of "show cause" do people not understand.
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The show cause to why we should be able to hire him with out the NCAA hammering UT with more penalties part. I guess some people just think the NCAA is just going to go ok you can hire him and nothing is going to happen.

I have a question how many coaches have a show cause on them right now are coaching in college sports? Answer is None and to date only one coach has ever coached in college again after getting a show cause.
 
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