Jim Tressel (merged)

#776
#776
governmentmule said:
Tresel could be waiting on a offer from his neck of the woods,he might not be interested in coming to the SEC,he has been rudely treated here :)
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all i'm saying is make him an offer...what's the worst we can do..He says no...we are already at that point..with several lower tier coaches...

make an effort...
 
#782
#782
slickstirs said:
if he misses the austin peay and western ky games, we should win anyway, then we play oregon and fl on the road (loses)..then south alabama (win)..show cause is over and we get him back home for ga....

why in the hell would you not consider him....can get him here at a low cost...proven winner ...championship coach and recruiter....no brainer...
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Well, for one thing every time he faced a big time SEC team he got his doors blown off. I hope you like punting and field position.

Hiring a coach that has to miss 5 games right off the bat would be idiotic.
 
#786
#786
VOLorNuttin said:
Before reading my post, try and take a few moments to read this article:
Jim Tressel could get hired after*flimsy NCAA show-cause penalty - Andy Staples - SI.com

I still say that Tressel might be the right guy and an absolute STEAL. I like Charlie Strong too and I think he could recruit with the best of 'em in the SEC, but with Tressel, his (and OSU's) loss...in regards to the NCAA trouble he got into...could be our gain.

Had he not gotten into that trouble, he'd still be coaching OSU right now...still a thorn in the side of Michigan and Penn State every year, and still one of the most successful College coaches today. I mean, record and recruiting wise, he's in the same conversation as Saban, Meyer and Stoops.

We'd only have to have him sit for 5 games, in order to get him. A 5 year NCAA Show Cause is NOT a coaching ban. It is simply a way to prevent a coach from dodging penalties he'd have to pay if he stayed put.

First of all...I think it's the rest of the Big 10 fanbase making much to do about absolutely NOTHING. Just like Bruce Pearl having a recruit over for a barbeque. Big freakin whoop. It was simply a matter of him trying to cover it up...why? Because they didn't want the NCAA trying to overblow the whole thing. I'm not condoning either coaches handling. But I do think the NCAA has a way of trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I'm sure he felt his players didn't deserve to get raked across the coals for something little like that.

Of course opposing fanbases are going to raise a big fuss. They want some relief from being terrorized by the guy every year. The NCAA is punishing him and OSU for him not putting the Hammer down on some of his players selling some of their stuff.

How in the hell is that even something to be penalized over? And no wonder he wanted to keep the NCAA out of their business. It's none of their damned business in the first place.I don't give a rat's behind if Terrell Pryor sells his jersey or not. So, IMHO, it's not something I think an AD should be concerned about. The guy paid/is paying their stupid freaking penalty, and I'm sure he'd not be inclined to do anything like it again.

But if Gruden is out of the question, Tressel would be a steal. He'd take considerably less than what he was making at OSU (especially if the AD can't get the NCAA to reduce the penalty down from 5 games...maybe 5 non-conference games instead of the first 5 of the season?), and that could help a great deal in getting the absolute best staff possible, while making Dooley's buyout easier to swallow.
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The only problem is that the NCAA (who makes the rules last I checked) doesn't like it when they get broken and then get lied about. The lying part is what gets me. If the sweater vest comes here, we will be vacating wins in 5 years or less. We will ALWAYS be waiting for that hammer to drop. The guy is tainted with the NCAA and will always HAVE to walk on eggshells to keep from having them in here like hawks.
 
#787
#787
There's no way he was contacted to gauge his interest in the job opening. Probably to consult with him about a potential hire.
 
#788
#788
Tressel will be back in coaching, but not this year... he's just too radioactive right now. Too bad though I would love to see him at UT under different circumstances.
 
#789
#789
TNGlen said:
The only problem is that the NCAA (who makes the rules last I checked) doesn't like it when they get broken and then get lied about. The lying part is what gets me. If the sweater vest comes here, we will be vacating wins in 5 years or less. We will ALWAYS be waiting for that hammer to drop. The guy is tainted with the NCAA and will always HAVE to walk on eggshells to keep from having them in here like hawks.
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He covered for his kids on an ignorant NCAA rule. Can't trade their personal property. While I'm with you that you can't piss off the ever-fickle NCAA, but the punishment is really light (for a show cause) and I'm thinking they'd like to have him back in there making cash for said NCAA by generating ratings for games.

I don't agree that he'll have us vacating wins or be waiting for the hammer to drop. He's never had any sort of recruiting violations or formal allegations of violations other than this situation. I'm sure he's not got a halo (none of them do), but I think he's pretty darn clean other than that stuff.
 
#790
#790
kohlrums said:
Well, for one thing every time he faced a big time SEC team he got his doors blown off. I hope you like punting and field position.

Hiring a coach that has to miss 5 games right off the bat would be idiotic.
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To be fair most big ten teams would struggle with SEC speed. I can't see them going this route but Tressel is a much better hire than some of the names being thrown around.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
He covered for his kids on an ignorant NCAA rule. Can't trade their personal property. While I'm with you that you can't piss off the ever-fickle NCAA, but the punishment is really light (for a show cause) and I'm thinking they'd like to have him back in there making cash for said NCAA by generating ratings for games.

I don't agree that he'll have us vacating wins or be waiting for the hammer to drop. He's never had any sort of recruiting violations or formal allegations of violations other than this situation. I'm sure he's not got a halo (none of them do), but I think he's pretty darn clean other than that stuff.
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Seriously? Tressel had a rep while at Youngstown State way before any of this. He's as dirty as they come.
 
#793
#793
FearlessFreep said:
Seriously? Tressel had a rep while at Youngstown State way before any of this. He's as dirty as they come.
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What was his rep there? Did some students pull some shiz, or was he involved in pay for play directly? Did the NCAA snoop around his door?

I'm just not sure how accurate this can be considering his next job was at the NCAA darling Ohio State. If some stuff "allegedly" went down that he was supposed to be aware of, then he's just like every other coach that doesn't get caught out there...
 
#795
#795
AF_VOL said:
Bill King just confirmed that Jim Tressel was contacted by Haslam about the UT job a few weeks ago. He doesn't know how far the talks went and his feeling is that Tressel didn't have much interest. He says it's not happening with Tressel.
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Link? Or it never happened
 
#796
#796
Wolfeman_Vol said:
What was his rep there? Did some students pull some shiz, or was he involved in pay for play directly? Did the NCAA snoop around his door?

I'm just not sure how accurate this can be considering his next job was at the NCAA darling Ohio State. If some stuff "allegedly" went down that he was supposed to be aware of, then he's just like every other coach that doesn't get caught out there...
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It was the typical booster scenario. A booster give benefits to a player and the head coach is the face of the program so he has to take the fall.
 
#797
#797
"On December 20, 2011 the NCAA placed Ohio State on an additional one year's probation and banned it from postseason play in 2012 for numerous major violations under Tressel's watch. It also imposed a five-year show-cause penalty on Tressel, which means any NCAA member that wants to hire him would have to "show cause" for why it shouldn't be sanctioned for hiring him, and could face severe penalties if he commits any further violations during that time. The order stands until December 19, 2016; given past precedent, it will likely have the effect of blackballing Tressel from the coaching ranks until the 2017 season. If Tressel ever coaches again during this period, he will be suspended for the first five games of the regular season, plus any conference championship game or bowl game. The NCAA came down particularly hard on Tressel because he'd had four chances to tell the truth and failed to do so. Among other things, he claimed that he didn't come forward because he believed doing so would jeopardize a federal drug investigation involving Rife" -from wikipedia
 
#798
#798
That support crumbled suddenly over Memorial Day weekend. Tressel was forced out three days after Sports Illustrated alerted Ohio State officials that the wrongdoing by Tressel's players was far more widespread than had been reported. SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002, Tressel's second season at Ohio State, and involved at least 28 players -- 22 more than the university has acknowledged. Those numbers include, beyond the six suspended players, an additional nine current players as well as nine former players whose alleged wrongdoing might fall within the NCAA's four-year statute of limitations on violations.

One former Buckeye, defensive end Robert Rose, whose career ended in 2009, told SI that he had swapped memorabilia for tattoos and that "at least 20 others" on the team had done so as well. SI's investigation also uncovered allegations that Ohio State players had traded memorabilia for marijuana and that Tressel had potentially broken NCAA rules when he was a Buckeyes assistant coach in the mid-1980s.



Read More: Sports Illustrated investigation on Jim Tressel, Ohio State - SI.com - Magazine
 
#799
#799
At this point I'm ready to have a coach. I don't care if Tressell has a 5 game suspension, a bowl ban, or is Steve Spurrier's half-brother. If Tressell is the man Hart wants, hire him. He's a winner.
 
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