Jimbo Fisher

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I just find it amazing that a guy that defended Fulmer to the end and then finally conceded it was time for him to go, is bashing a guy for underachieving at 9-11 wins each year. That is the ultimate irony.
 
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tvols75 said:
I just find it amazing that a guy that defended Fulmer to the end and then finally conceded it was time for him to go, is bashing a guy for underachieving at 9-11 wins each year. That is the ultimate irony.
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My stance on Fulmer was and is this. I said after his 1st losing season he EARNED the right to fix things. If however he has another losing season he needs to be fired. That is reality of my stance.
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VolBeef88 said:
My stance on Fulmer was and is this. I said after his 1st losing season he EARNED the right to fix things. If however he has another losing season he needs to be fired. That is reality of my stance.
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I know, I though I implied that. You fought for him to the end and then conceded with that last season. However, why did you fight for him? He, like Fisher, has squads that were loaded with talent and always had a loss that made you scratch your head. That is the irony. You are bashing a coach for underachieving, yet you fought for the other until the end. I'm not bashing Fulmer, I actually wouldn't mind a Fulmer in his prime, aka Jimbo Fisher. His offense translates to the SEC. The players he recruits translate to the SEC. He knows what it takes to win in the SEC. He knows what it takes to recruit the SEC. The guy is the surest thing of any coach that is out there, including Jon Gruden. If he underachieves at 9-11 wins each year, sign me up like I said.
 
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tvols75 said:
Dispute it. He reminds me exactly of Fulmer in his prime at this stage in his career. Fulmer with the talent he had should've won more than 1 NC. In that 1 NC year he almost lost to several teams along the way with inferior talent. They both can recruit, they were both OCs in this league, and they both tend to have losses that keep them from the big game.
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Not really. Fulmer typically would lose to UF or UGA type teams. Dumbo loses to NC State type of teams. HUGE difference. Yes there is a Memphis loss and a Wyoming loss but that's over 17 seasons. Dumbo has horrible losses every year.
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VolBeef88 said:
Not really. Fulmer typically would ose to UF or UGA type teams. Dumbo loses to NC State type of teams. HUGE difference. Yes there is a Memphis loss and a Wyoming loss but that's over 17 seasons. Dumbo has horrible losses every year.
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So did Pete Carroll, would you bash that hire? Everything about Fisher translates to the SEC. Let him underachieve here at 9-10 wins and then get lucky and win it all. I'm fine with that.
 
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Jimbo Is 2-1 against Florida,and a heck of a Recruiter.Sounds good to me if we can't get Gruden or Stoops.He is a better choice than Strong,Golden or Fedora.
 
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He's coaching in his championship game something that hasn't happened here since 07 so yeah why not
 
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I think hart can easily get fisher from FSU he has ties there and I think fisher would like to be in the SEC but who wouldnt
 
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According to some of you, if a coach doesnt coach in the SEC, he is crap if he doesnt win at least 11 games per year and play in 2 of every 3 national championships.
 
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cgroce30 said:
According to some of you, if a coach doesnt coach in the SEC, he is crap if he doesnt win at least 11 games per year and play in 2 of every 3 national championships.
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This. I've said this all along, outside of Saban and Spurrier, all the prominent programs in the SEC hired guys that would underwhelm the delusionals.
 
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tvols75 said:
So did Pete Carroll, would you bash that hire? Everything about Fisher translates to the SEC. Let him underachieve here at 9-10 wins and then get lucky and win it all. I'm fine with that.
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If he goes to Tennessee, he won't have 9-10 games a year against Savannah St, Maryland, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc.
 
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Incipient said:
If he goes to Tennessee, he won't have 9-10 games a year against Savannah St, Maryland, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc.
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UT always has 7 games they should win each year. When UT is talented, they always have at least 8-9 they should win each year with 3 being toss-ups. And based on that, we cannot hire any coach that is currently not in the SEC.
 
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tvols75 said:
UT always has 7 games they should win each year. When UT is talented, they always have at least 8-9 they should win each year with 3 being toss-ups.
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I see Jimbo being outcoached by Muschamp, Saban, Spurrier, and probably Richt. So the question is: can he out-talent them? He can in the ACC. Color me skeptical that he can keep doing it in the SEC.
 
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Incipient said:
I see Jimbo being outcoached by Muschamp, Saban, Spurrier, and probably Richt. So the question is: can he out-talent them? He can in the ACC. Color me skeptical that he can keep doing it in the SEC.
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Strange, because you said Dooley was ahead of Muschamp and Richt on gameday coaching back last year.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Not really. Fulmer typically would lose to UF or UGA type teams. Dumbo loses to NC State type of teams. HUGE difference. Yes there is a Memphis loss and a Wyoming loss but that's over 17 seasons. Dumbo has horrible losses every year.
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Don't leave out Fulmer's illustrious loss to Vandy on his home field. Or the 2001 SEC championship game. That was one of the worst choke jobs of all time NCAA history. Or the embarrassing loss to a horrifically PATHETIC UCLA team in 08. You know, the one on Monday night where we were showcased as the only game on in the entire nation. You don't have a leg to stand on son. Take your pathetically WEAK rant elsewhere or start making some sense. Choose one and quit crying son.
 
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tvols75 said:
Strange, because you said Dooley was ahead of Muschamp and Richt on gameday coaching back last year.
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Did I say that? Wow my position on Dooley sure changed quickly.

My evidence for Muschamp being a better gameday coach than Fisher is the scoreboard. FSU had a better team and home field and lost.
 
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Incipient said:
Did I say that? Wow my position on Dooley sure changed quickly.

My evidence for Muschamp being a better gameday coach than Fisher is the scoreboard. FSU had a better team and home field and lost.
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You cannot say FSU had a better team. Florida has 1 loss vs. the toughest schedule in the country. In that 1 loss, they had what seemed like a million turnovers and still lost by 1 possession. Florida's D is the best in the country, and it's not even that close.
 
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tvols75 said:
You cannot say FSU had a better team. Florida has 1 loss vs. the toughest schedule in the country. In that 1 loss, they had what seemed like a million turnovers and still lost by 1 possession. Florida's D is the best in the country, and it's not even that close.
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FSU was favored by almost a touchdown for a reason. Florida's offense was often inept. They barely beat Mizzou and Louisiana-Lafayette.
 
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Incipient said:
FSU was favored by almost a touchdown for a reason. Florida's offense was often inept. They barely beat Mizzou and Louisiana-Lafayette.
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Who care who they barely beat? They also spanked USCe, beat LSU, A&M, etc... They weren't flashy is the only reason people didn't pick Florida. In the end, it was a good game for most of the game and Florida's D just finally broke FSU and all the momentum shifted.
 
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FSU is certainly mashing a georgia tech team that has a defense like ours--B-A.D. FSU would beat us, I feel confident of that. Fisher would be a good hire, all things considered. A better hire than Strong or Gundy? Who's to say or know--but we absolutely need a guy who wants to recruit, and having florida contacts is a big positive. We also need the guy who can put together a stout staff.
 
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tvols75 said:
UT always has 7 games they should win each year. When UT is talented, they always have at least 8-9 they should win each year with 3 being toss-ups. And based on that, we cannot hire any coach that is currently not in the SEC.
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UT has never EVER had a schedule as weak as FSU's and you know it. Not even close.
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Incipient said:
FSU was favored by almost a touchdown for a reason. Florida's offense was often inept. They barely beat Mizzou and Louisiana-Lafayette.
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Wasnt Tennessee favored over Fla. this year also. People have slept on Fla. all year. You have no point.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
UT has never EVER had a schedule as weak as FSU's and you know it. Not even close.
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Never argued that. But to act like there aren't 7 gimmes on the schedule each year, is just dumb. With talent, you can even bump the number up to 8 and sometimes even 9 depending on the West Opponent outside of Bama.
 
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