Jon Gruden thread (merged)

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volfan4evr said:
Just because you only see him a couple days a week, doesn't mean he has no responsibilities behind the scenes.
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He doesn't make that much money either.

The guy is a known workaholic.

These negative points are fiction and overused at this point.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
If, and I seriously doubt it, Gruden is hired at Tennessee then I'll support him just like I'll support any coaches at Tennessee.

I just don't see him giving up a 2 day a week job for BIG $$$ that he loves to come to Tennessee and work his butt off and having to beg 17 year old kids to come play for him.

Whoever our next coach will be will get my 100% support just like all our coaches and players have.

VFL...GBO!!!
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You're starting to turn...it will get better as time moves closer to Gruden's arrival
 
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therealUT said:
I'll post my thoughts right here, thank you. Oh, and before I forget, nice hall-monitor armband you got there.
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I'm sorry man....I'm just playing. By all means, feel free to post. Your time to talk about a Gruden alternative is running short.

Continue bowing up though if you think it helps.
 
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Coach Grizz said:
Your dealing with young men so your tring to mold young minds look after them as you promised your parents and it's a whole lot of teaching you have more control over the team. In the NFL it's more of a business the owners and players run the show. To a pro player he see's the HC as a friend. That's just my opinion.
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MedicT said:
I've been trying to communicate this for a week on here Grizz but no one wants to hear it. I'm not saying Gruden can't do it, just that there really is a great deal of difference between dealing with professional athletes and college kids, and professional athletic organizations and NCAA schools.:banghead2:
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Thanks fellas for the reply - I had already gone to bed before I got it. I was specifically referring to on field differences. Handling the kids does present a problem for a coach. It just seems to me to be easier to go from Pro to college vs. college to Pro. If the X's and O's are the same, then dealing with the players should be the only problem. In that respect, he has 7 or 8 other coaches to help him. Also, it just seems much more easier to handle 18 year old prima donna's compared to handling 23 year old millionair's.
 
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Boro-Vol has no idea what Gruden currently earns.

He makes many posts as if they're all facts but has never posted 1 link to prove anything he says.

I'll believe we get a new coach and who that coach is whenever AD Hart holds a press meeting to make the announcement.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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therealUT said:
Last time Gruden was successful enough that it would influence any recruits was 2002, when most recruits now were 8, 7, 6?

He took a team that Dungy built and won a Super Bowl with Monty Kiffin, then did basically nothing at Tampa for the next six seasons. Prior to that, he did a great coaching job with the Raiders, though. I will give him credit for those teams. Unfortunately, now we are asking recruits to remember what happened in the AFC West when they were 5 years old.

If you want Gruden, you have to want him simply for coaching prowess. His past is too removed to be a recruiting draw for 16 and 17 year old kids; and, there is nothing on his resume that points to him being a great recruiter (closest you could maybe get is that Keyshawn enjoyed having him as a coach).
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Ridiculous....You put Jon Gruden in a living room with a top player and his parents and I promise you he'll win 90% of the time...Have you ever actually listened to him talk?...He is one of the most personable people I've ever heard in my life...He has that way of making you like him and he has the gift of talk..I have zero doubt he could land us a top 5 class every season..That is one of the biggest appeals of hiring him...Plus he's well known and seen every week on tv.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Made a couple of calls this morning. It's quiet, like we expected. Nobody is hearing anything.
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Which is spot on with what you were told would happen right before a change, quiet before the storm.

If Dooley is gone, they've got to get him off campus and go with an interim the rest of the year. The last thing we need to a "silent" firing and then he go off and beat either 'Bama or SCar... the masses will be howling if he's publicly let go after that.

Any ideas on who the interim might be? Think I read a few pages back that it might be Sal.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
Which is spot on with what you were told would happen right before a change, quiet before the storm.

If Dooley is gone, they've got to get him off campus and go with an interim the rest of the year. The last thing we need to a "silent" firing and then he go off and beat either 'Bama or SCar... the masses will be howling if he's publicly let go after that.

Any ideas on who the interim might be? Think I read a few pages back that it might be Sal.
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No clue other than what others have posted here.

Remember, what we were hearing early on pointed to an announcement after USCe and him possibly coaching out the year. What was posted last night had Sal coaching as the interim, which doesn't make sense to me, but is not unlikely.
 
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therealUT said:
1. I do not think that Dooley has recruited well.

2. I have to think that the buzz surrounding Gruden would be the exact same as that surrounding Herbstreit. It would be buzz from a TV personality that might draw recruits; but, is not going to draw recruits to the same extent that a coach with recent success will draw.

3. Gruden might get better talent than Dooley (hard not to). Gruden is a better coach than Dooley. Is Gruden $3M/year better than Dooley? As you said, you worry about his coaching.

There are guys out there that are getting the job done right now in Division I football. The problem with the Dooley hire is that he was not getting the job done. I would rather throw money at coaches like Sumlin and Mullen first before throwing money at Gruden.
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I disagree with #2, gruden has a super bowl and coached the raiders up as well. People can say whatever they want about it being dungy's team but dungy couldnt win it with them.

I didnt say I was worried about coaching, I'm worried about the hours a college coach keeps to be successful.
 
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TOP said:
That's exactly how much he makes a year.

You don't believe ESPN when they tell you that's what he makes?
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I am not a journeyman of this thread so if this is sarcasm based on previous posts then I am unable to detect.

If you are serious then links or it didn't happen.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
Which is spot on with what you were told would happen right before a change, quiet before the storm.

If Dooley is gone, they've got to get him off campus and go with an interim the rest of the year. The last thing we need to a "silent" firing and then he go off and beat either 'Bama or SCar... the masses will be howling if he's publicly let go after that.

Any ideas on who the interim might be? Think I read a few pages back that it might be Sal.
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No source but i would let Graham do it if I were Hart.
 
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