Jon Gruden thread (merged)

[volatil]

i'm 42. I'm a man!

3-1, with a guarantee to be behind the count at the end of october. Nobody that seen this team this year thinks otherwise. Dooley has 6 wins built in this year, and even that is dubious at this point.

fyp

 

[Spartacavolus]

I'm 42.

3-1, with a guarantee to be behind the count at the end of October. Nobody that seen this team this year thinks otherwise. Dooley has 6 wins built in this year, and even that is dubious at this point.

I wasn't really referring to you, but the fact is that it's going to take something monumental, like another ky loss and only 5-6 wins for there to be a chance at a change. Anything more, and their plan stays the same, and DD gets another year.

 

[volatil]

I wasn't really referring to you, but the fact is that it's going to take something monumental, like another ky loss and only 5-6 wins for there to be a chance at a change. Anything more, and their plan stays the same, and DD gets another year.

Commitment to empty seats then. I have no inside knowledge nor claim to, I just feel like Dooley burned up his 9 lives at Ky. last year. I am sick of watching this team be reduced to irrelevance.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

Me too.....I have 7 cousins who graduated from UK. All of my mothers family is from Lexington and N. Kentucky. You're not telling me anything.

I was willing to give him this season based upon recruiting and the talent he would have at his disposal finally. I felt like this was truly his team. But we have the same problems, and IMO it all stems from coaching.

I think he has enough talent to win with this year. My opinion was if he couldn't at least win 9 this year when would he ever?

Had he beat UF we'd be singing a different tune, but we lost that game the same way we've been losing the other ones. We can't play a whole game of football for nothing.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

I wasn't really referring to you, but the fact is that it's going to take something monumental, like another ky loss and only 5-6 wins for there to be a chance at a change. Anything more, and their plan stays the same, and DD gets another year.

We actually could easily go 6-6 with our only wins coming against Troy, UK and Vandy.

0% chance he's back if that happens, IMO.

 

['Boro-vol]

I think he has enough talent to win with this year. My opinion was if he couldn't at least win 9 this year when would he ever?

Had he beat UF we'd be singing a different tune, but we lost that game the same way we've been losing the other ones. We can't play a whole game of football for nothing.

Correct. I have to believe my eyes....and they see a pattern. Nothing changes except the names of the players.

 

['Boro-vol]

fyp

Thanks.

 

[gcbvol]

Commitment to empty seats then. I have no inside knowledge nor claim to, I just feel like Dooley burned up his 9 lives at Ky. last year. I am sick of watching this team be reduced to irrelevance.

No inside knowledge here either, but I agree about UK. I think that disaster plus the way he lost the Florida game (which became a much bigger deal with the way that game was built up), have sped up the erosion of his remaining support.

I disagree about the number of wins that will save him; I think he has to win a minimum of 8 AND remain competitive in the losses. Many would argue that losing by 17 to Florida in that home environment was not competitive, which means he is not off to a good start in terms of competitive losses. Just my opinion.

 

[volatil]

No inside knowledge here either, but I agree about UK. I think that disaster plus the way he lost the Florida game (which became a much bigger deal with the way that game was built up), have sped up the erosion of his remaining support.

I disagree about the number of wins that will save him; I think he has to win a minimum of 8 AND remain competitive in the losses. Many would argue that losing by 17 to Florida in that home environment was not competitive, which means he is not off to a good start in terms of competitive losses. Just my opinion.

You mean we weren't competitive against Fl. when we gave up over 600 yards on D?

 

[Spartacavolus]

Commitment to empty seats then. I have no inside knowledge nor claim to, I just feel like Dooley burned up his 9 lives at Ky. last year. I am sick of watching this team be reduced to irrelevance.

I'm up for whatever is the best decision to make at the end of the season.

I'm also just laying out what I understand to be the situation.

 

[justingroves]

What plan does Hart and Dooley have Sparty?

 

['Boro-vol]

You mean we weren't competitive against Fl. when we gave up over 600 yards on D?

....most of which came after 8:00 to go in the 3rd.

 

[justingroves]

Troy put up 560 yards of offense against msu

 

['Boro-vol]

Troy put up 560 yards of offense against msu

Troy would have rolled us Saturday night. I no longer include them in games I'm confident of winning.

 

[Spartacavolus]

What plan does Hart and Dooley have Sparty?

Through the end of next year, barring a collapse or issues (ncaa, suspensions, fraud, whatever) that leave the AD no choice.
JG, regardless of the ky loss or fla loss, that hasn't changed.

Now, it may change dependant upon what happens over the next 2 months, but it hasn't yet.

Like I have always said, I'm fine with whatever happens at the end of the year, as long as it makes sense. The program is better off today than it has been in many years, and finding a coach won't be as difficult.

 

[Jax_Vol]

WHoops, I put that in the wrong thred.


Jon Gruden.........come on down!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Spartacavolus]

Troy put up 560 yards of offense against msu

I assume they still run the spread and these spread offenses allow a lot of inferior teams to put yards and points up. Honestly, I'm glad it wasn't around many years ago.

 

[JayVols]

I wasn't really referring to you, but the fact is that it's going to take something monumental, like another ky loss and only 5-6 wins for there to be a chance at a change. Anything more, and their plan stays the same, and DD gets another year.

We'll see.

 

[JayVols]

No inside knowledge here either, but I agree about UK. I think that disaster plus the way he lost the Florida game (which became a much bigger deal with the way that game was built up), have sped up the erosion of his remaining support.

I disagree about the number of wins that will save him; I think he has to win a minimum of 8 AND remain competitive in the losses. Many would argue that losing by 17 to Florida in that home environment was not competitive, which means he is not off to a good start in terms of competitive losses. Just my opinion.

I don't think 8 saves him given previous meltdowns.

 

[justingroves]

I find it hard to believe he'll get to 8 wins

 

[justingroves]

I assume they still run the spread and these spread offenses allow a lot of inferior teams to put yards and points up. Honestly, I'm glad it wasn't around many years ago.

Tony Franklin offense

 

[JayVols]

I find it hard to believe he'll get to 8 wins

agreed

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

7 wins means he splits with Mizzou and MSU. Not sure that even happens at this point.

 

['Boro-vol]

7 wins means he splits with Mizzou and MSU. Not sure that even happens at this point.

We won't win in October...probably not until late November.

 

[volfan2024]

After all these threads I think I am officially John Grudened out. I'm off the John Gruden bandwagon.