Jon Gruden thread (merged)

[Gator H8R]

The only reason we would lose recruits if Gruden replaced Dooley would be because Gruden recruited over them.

Exactly. They would be pushed out of the line.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Yeah, you're alright too. This does not mean we'll be taking long hot showers together however.

It is starting to get all Penn Statey up in here....

 

[alaVOL]

Proof Gruden is All Vol!

Do we get the QB's and cheerleaders with him?

 

['Boro-vol]

It is starting to get all Penn Statey up in here....

I'm trying to make sure that does NOT happen.

 

[YorkVol]

I can't wade through this whole thread...here is what I know about Gruden.

College coaching experience:
GA at UTK under Walt Harris
QB coach at South East Missouri State
Tight Ends coach at Univ of Pacific
WR coach at Pitt

NFL Experience
Offensive quality control coach at San Francisco
WR coach at Green Bay
OC at Philadelphia
HC at Oakland (40-28 overall)
HC at Tampa (Super Bowl win in year 1, then went 45-51 over the next 6 years)

When I look at his college experience, I see no Coordinator time and no Head Coach time. When I look at his NFL experience, I see he got fired twice after under performing for the bulk of his career. Yes, he won a Super Bowl, but there is debate on whether that was him or the previous coach setting things up right.

Other than the fact that he is a great TV personality, can anyone explain the interest in Gruden? This is an honest question. I like what I see him doing on TV, not sure I see why some of us are so passionate about bringing him here as the replacement for Dooley (which I don't see happening but that is another topic). Can someone lay out the logic for me?

thanks,

 

[Spartacavolus]

Yeah, you're alright too. This does not mean we'll be taking long hot showers together however.

dammit

 

[Orange Blazer]

No where near as dumb to think it wouldnt be an upgrade.

It will probably be an upgrade over time but not right away a far as recruiting goes.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Proof Gruden is All Vol!

so you want a coach who gets in that pic and makes that face? How smooth is that?

btw, after review, I'll just go left to right, and be just fine with it

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

It will probably be an upgrade over time but not right away a far as recruiting goes.

Why not?

 

[Thrasher865]

Other than the fact that he is a great TV personality, can anyone explain the interest in Gruden? This is an honest question. I like what I see him doing on TV, not sure I see why some of us are so passionate about bringing him here as the replacement for Dooley (which I don't see happening but that is another topic). Can someone lay out the logic for me?

thanks,

How did Saban and Carroll so far do in the NFL?

I don't know about his coaching ability, but to even be a .500 coach in the NFL is impressive to me. I imagine he wouldn't even have to recruit. Recruits would just call him wanting to come visit.

 

[xXRockyTopXx]

I meant $250.

I like you mayn. All good. Despite all said, I have no problem with different opinions. Drama queens off, or on, their meds make it out to be different.

Yeah, you're alright too. This does not mean we'll be taking long hot showers together however.

Curiously, you didn't rule out any buttchugging. BYOT (bring your own tube)

 

[theFallGuy]

How did Saban and Carroll so far do in the NFL?

I don't know about his coaching ability, but to even be a .500 coach in the NFL is impressive to me. I imagine he wouldn't even have to recruit. Recruits would just call him wanting to come visit.

add Spurrier to that list

 

[YorkVol]

How did Saban and Carroll so far do in the NFL?

I don't know about his coaching ability, but to even be a .500 coach in the NFL is impressive to me. I imagine he wouldn't even have to recruit. Recruits would just call him wanting to come visit.

So, point 1, he would get recruits easily.

 

['Boro-vol]

dammit

If its that important to you.....got another 250k laying around?

 

[Spartacavolus]

Curiously, you didn't rule out any buttchugging. BYOT (bring your own tube)

cant imaging anyone I went to college with suggesting that.

Well, maybe one guy, but I knew he was gay cuz his digit tasted like poo.





Always liked that joke. It's just right on the line.

 

['Boro-vol]

cant imaging anyone i went to college with suggesting that.

Well, maybe one guy, but i knew he was gay cuz his digit tasted like poo.





Always liked that joke. It's just right on the line.

roflmao!!!!

 

[xXRockyTopXx]

I can't wade through this whole thread...here is what I know about Gruden.

College coaching experience:
GA at UTK under Walt Harris
QB coach at South East Missouri State
Tight Ends coach at Univ of Pacific
WR coach at Pitt

NFL Experience
Offensive quality control coach at San Francisco
WR coach at Green Bay
OC at Philadelphia
HC at Oakland (40-28 overall)
HC at Tampa (Super Bowl win in year 1, then went 45-51 over the next 6 years)

When I look at his college experience, I see no Coordinator time and no Head Coach time. When I look at his NFL experience, I see he got fired twice after under performing for the bulk of his career. Yes, he won a Super Bowl, but there is debate on whether that was him or the previous coach setting things up right.

Other than the fact that he is a great TV personality, can anyone explain the interest in Gruden? This is an honest question. I like what I see him doing on TV, not sure I see why some of us are so passionate about bringing him here as the replacement for Dooley (which I don't see happening but that is another topic). Can someone lay out the logic for me?

thanks,

I'll gladly "roll the dice" with someone other than Dooley who is sought out by kids around the country for his advice. Here some good info if you haven't seen it:

Gruden Camp News, Videos, Photos, and PodCasts - ESPN

 

[xXRockyTopXx]

cant imaging anyone I went to college with suggesting that.

Well, maybe one guy, but I knew he was gay cuz his digit tasted like poo.





Always liked that joke. It's just right on the line.

lulz

 

[YorkVol]

I'll gladly "roll the dice" with someone other than Dooley who is sought out by kids around the country for his advice. Here some good info if you haven't seen it:

Gruden Camp News, Videos, Photos, and PodCasts - ESPN

Thanks, I've seen it.

So points 2 and 3:

2. Anyone would do better than Dooley.
3. He runs football QB camps that are popular.

 

[Orange Blazer]

Why not?

I think recruiting is about relationships. He would be behind on that.

 

[zjcvols]

I can't wade through this whole thread...here is what I know about Gruden.
College coaching experience:
GA at UTK under Walt Harris
QB coach at South East Missouri State
Tight Ends coach at Univ of Pacific
WR coach at Pitt

NFL Experience
Offensive quality control coach at San Francisco
WR coach at Green Bay
OC at Philadelphia
HC at Oakland (40-28 overall)
HC at Tampa (Super Bowl win in year 1, then went 45-51 over the next 6 years)

When I look at his college experience, I see no Coordinator time and no Head Coach time. When I look at his NFL experience, I see he got fired twice after under performing for the bulk of his career. Yes, he won a Super Bowl, but there is debate on whether that was him or the previous coach setting things up right.

Other than the fact that he is a great TV personality, can anyone explain the interest in Gruden? This is an honest question. I like what I see him doing on TV, not sure I see why some of us are so passionate about bringing him here as the replacement for Dooley (which I don't see happening but that is another topic). Can someone lay out the logic for me?

thanks,

Obviously you don't.

 

[YorkVol]

Obviously you don't.

Not obvious, you disagree with my opinion? Please elaborate, I'm not an expert.

 

[Orange Blazer]

How did Saban and Carroll so far do in the NFL?

I don't know about his coaching ability, but to even be a .500 coach in the NFL is impressive to me. I imagine he wouldn't even have to recruit. Recruits would just call him wanting to come visit.

How did I get credit for this post?

 

[Spartacavolus]

I think recruiting is about relationships. He would be behind on that.

I usually agree OB, but Gruden's name and NFL ties would recruit themselves.

Now, will a scowl, intensity and his NFL coaching tactics work at a college level with some 18 and 19 yr olds that have been told quitting and moving elsewhere is easier than working hard and waiting for dividends?

It might, then again, it might not. I could see success, but I could also see a thread in 3 years talking about how bad we still suck.

 

[Orange Blazer]

Not obvious, you disagree with my opinion? Please elaborate, I'm not an expert.

He will. Just give him a minute. On another note, what kind of history does Gruden have as a recruiter?