Jon Gruden to Miami FL (merged)

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#127
Vercingetorix said:
This guy promised his players that they'd have a "decided schematic advantage" against everybody they played because of his Super Bowl-level NFL experience. It was true, wasn't it?

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NFL offenses can be boring to watch. Recycled systems and coaching incest is rampant.

Plenty of Super Bowl winning coaches have been average to very poor on the college level.

Denny Green, Dave Wannstedt and Weis ring a bell.
 
#129
#129
The_Orange_Pearl said:
You make no sense. First you say you have to win to send players to the NFL and I pointed out that crappy teams send players to the NFL too. It has to do with everything YOU said.

Your arguments are weird and you use zero facts to back your logic. You have no idea what Jon Gruden would do as a coach at the college level. Pure speculation. For you to play it off like he'd be a failure is complete horse poopy. We do know first hand that Lane Kiffin was able to pick up top recruits just based on his daddy and we've seen that Charlie Baggett has done the same. Top recruits want to play for coaches with NFL experience because they believe those coaches will help get them there, period.
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Those teams probably won games in their pitiful conferences. This doesn't mean they're going to be million dollar athletes. Most of them are special teams players, which is just the luck of the draw more than raw talent. The amount of players the U sends to the NFL wouldn't change. It didn't when Randy Shannon came in. I'm not playing anything off but it's hard to win games at Miami for anyone. The program has lost the sparkle it had in the 80s. You guys think Gruden is God and he would win wherever he coaced in the AA and bring in tons of recruits. I think he would improve any program he went to, he wouldn't be winning titles or sending 10 players to the NFL every year.
 
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#131
Was thinking it was funny watching Cane fans get all excited only to be let down with the whole Gruden thing, at least until I remembered the last couple of years :)
 
#132
#132
bam15 said:
NFL offenses can be boring to watch. Recycled systems and coaching incest is rampant.

Plenty of Super Bowl winning coaches have been average to very poor on the college level.

Denny Green, Dave Wannstedt and Weis ring a bell.
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Thank you! This is all I'm saying.
 
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#133
NoWooInRockyTop said:
Those teams probably won games in their pitiful conferences. This doesn't mean they're going to be million dollar athletes. Most of them are special teams players, which is just the luck of the draw more than raw talent. The amount of players the U sends to the NFL wouldn't change. It didn't when Randy Shannon came in. I'm not playing anything off but it's hard to win games at Miami for anyone. The program has lost the sparkle it had in the 80s. You guys think Gruden is God and he would win wherever he coaced in the AA and bring in tons of recruits. I think he would improve any program he went to, he wouldn't be winning titles or sending 10 players to the NFL every year.
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Gruden is a good coach and a workaholic. The only problem is he is working with College students, not Professional athletes. He can't expect to come into a college program using NASA terminology -- Fly to Doublewing Right Snug 24 Scat Y Shallow Cross Colorado F Texas. The time spent with players is cut in half.
 
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#135
2 things

1) Its amazing how stuff gets made up in the media (like Cutcliffe even being a candidate for the job here) on this coaching searches. You can't believe anything.

2) Anyone else think Gruden's agent starts one of these rumors each time a coaching job comes open in college or the NFL?
 
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#137
PennVol said:
2 things

1) Its amazing how stuff gets made up in the media (like Cutcliffe even being a candidate for the job here) on this coaching searches. You can't believe anything.

2) Anyone else think Gruden's agent starts one of these rumors each time a coaching job comes open in college or the NFL?
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Wouldn't be surprised.

Anything for a raise (If that is possible)
 
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#139
bam15 said:
Gruden is a good coach and a workaholic. The only problem is he is working with College students, not Professional athletes. He can't expect to come into a college program using NASA terminology -- Fly to Doublewing Right Snug 24 Scat Y Shallow Cross Colorado F Texas. The time spent with players is cut in half.
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He's was a good coach in the NFL and that's it. He's never going to coach in the college game, so the speculation is pointless.
 
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#141
GameDayFootball GameDayFootball
RT @desmond_howard: Please do not buy into the Gruden to Miami hype. I do NOT see that happening...AT ALL!

Desmond just posted this, 2 hours after Peter King's report. Hilarious. Anyone else watch Desmond on gameday and think "why did ESPN hire Buckwheat"?
 
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#142
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/hurricanes/jon-gruden-is-on-the-miami-hurricanes-wish-1079929.html

No gruden but this article says the AD was looking before this last game and are going to spend money this time.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/hurricanes/university-of-miami-athletic-director-was-seeking-randy-1078678.html
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#145
ptclaus98 said:
Meh, we still have Georgia where we seem to be focusing more of our efforts.
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This. Plus it helps having someone steal some recruits from Meyer hopefully which in turn if they get back to being dominate again helps ut being a contender in the east.
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#149
Gruden is reportedly set to sign a multi-year deal worth $3-million per season to coach the Hurricanes. This is less than 18 hours after the university dumped Shannon and his entire coaching staff.
 
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NoWooInRockyTop said:
Those teams probably won games in their pitiful conferences. This doesn't mean they're going to be million dollar athletes. Most of them are special teams players, which is just the luck of the draw more than raw talent. The amount of players the U sends to the NFL wouldn't change. It didn't when Randy Shannon came in. I'm not playing anything off but it's hard to win games at Miami for anyone. The program has lost the sparkle it had in the 80s. You guys think Gruden is God and he would win wherever he coaced in the AA and bring in tons of recruits. I think he would improve any program he went to, he wouldn't be winning titles or sending 10 players to the NFL every year.
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Idaho is 5-6
I'll give you Delaware, they are good - for a division 2 team

Randy Shannon averaged 3.25 players drafted per year for 13 total over 4 years. The four years prior The U averaged 7.75 per year with 31 total.

They won a title in '91 and '01. They won the ACC 9 times between '91 and '03.
 
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