Just passed the kentucky buses

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#102
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Miller was slated to start the year in the starting five, and did, but Gilchrist was playing absolutely too well in practice and in games not to give a chance. Miller slumped two games while while Gilchrist excelled. In the press conference after the game, Cal was quoted saying "Michael likely played himself into a starting position tonight." After this, Gilchrist went to Cal and told him he didn't want to start, or have to start, and to leave Miller in the lineup if it helped chemistry. But Miller is gamer as well, and told Cal that he wanted to come off the bench where he felt just as comfortable. So now you have the current starting line-up, with both players playing 30 minutes a game anyway.
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wildnkrazykat said:
That's some maturity right there. On both parts. Mkg, Is quickly becoming one of my favorites
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Oh, thats what he meant.

Btw, whenever i hear MKG...sounds like a bad a$$ gun.
 
#103
#103
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Miller was slated to start the year in the starting five, and did, but Gilchrist was playing absolutely too well in practice and in games not to give a chance. Miller slumped two games while while Gilchrist excelled. In the press conference after the game, Cal was quoted saying "Michael likely played himself into a starting position tonight." After this, Gilchrist went to Cal and told him he didn't want to start, or have to start, and to leave Miller in the lineup if it helped chemistry. But Miller is gamer as well, and told Cal that he wanted to come off the bench where he felt just as comfortable. So now you have the current starting line-up, with both players playing 30 minutes a game anyway.
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Thank you, I knew it involved those 2 just couldn't remember the details. Mkg is in my opinion the best pro prospect on the team not named Davis. He is a stud and I'm very surprised at his attitude and effort, not a typical cal guy.
 
#104
#104
bleedingTNorange said:
Thank you, I knew it involved those 2 just couldn't remember the details. Mkg is in my opinion the best pro prospect on the team not named Davis. He is a stud and I'm very surprised at his attitude and effort, not a typical cal guy.
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MKG is a fighter. He rebounds great for his size and shoots decent. Cal said he is one of the best "lay-up makers" in the game. Spot on.
 
#107
#107
Hardwood_fanatic said:
If Terrence Jones approached the game with the same intensity as MKG, kid would average a triple double.
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Unfortunately it's that way with a lot of players. If Hopson has the fight and ethic of Tobias I have no doubt he'd have been first round. Unfortunately for everyone he didn't.
 
#110
#110
wildnkrazykat said:
Id agree completely. He and mkg coupled with Davis could have been lethal this year, if tj could get that killer instinct it would be a scary thing.
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The fact that a 17 year old making his debut was able to come in and frustrate him really said a lot to me about jones.
 
#111
#111
AllVolYall said:
They feel so entitled that they had to pay big $$$ to get the biggest cheater of a coach just so they would think they were good again.
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Problem is though.. they are good. And now that they are on a roll.. they will continue to be.. just like Bama football.. sickening.
 
#112
#112
SpaceCoastVol said:
Problem is though.. they are good. And now that they are on a roll.. they will continue to be.. just like Bama football.. sickening.
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Yes, sickening to think a program that has 7 championships is still relevant in CBB. How sad...

Admit it, ya'll would love Cal if he did this at UT. Anyone would really. Cheater or not.
 
#113
#113
BigPapaCat said:
Yes, sickening to think a program that has 7 championships is still relevant in CBB. How sad...

Admit it, ya'll would love Cal if he did this at UT. Anyone would really. Cheater or not.
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If he were winning at UT, I would feel like I was constantly looking over my shoulder after every win.
 
#114
#114
Seriously, not everybody wants that guy to be their coach. He is a dirtbag. Look at how he danced away from Memphis for a better job just as the curtain was coming down. He didn't just change overnight. The guy epitomizes the used car salesmen reputation that college coaches have.
 
#115
#115
BigPapaCat said:
Yes, sickening to think a program that has 7 championships is still relevant in CBB. How sad...

Admit it, ya'll would love Cal if he did this at UT. Anyone would really. Cheater or not.
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i can honestly say 100% i would not want him as our coach. the black cloud he has left at umass, memphis, and will leave at uk is something i would want no part of. what good does winning do and making final fours when in a few years it is just going to be vacated anyways. its like it never happened. sorry but this is not a guy that i would want coaching any team that i liked the least bit.
 
#116
#116
Y'all loved BP and he was a cheater who only had mediocre results. A cheater who was winning and slaying it on the recruiting trail would put you
All in a pleasure coma.
 
#118
#118
wildnkrazykat said:
Y'all loved BP and he was a cheater who only had mediocre results. A cheater who was winning and slaying it on the recruiting trail would put you
All in a pleasure coma.
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Yeah, he only won more SEC games than any other program in his 6 year tenure, won the East 3 times and the SEC outright and had 3 Sweet 16's and an Elite 8. If that's mediocre, give me more of that.

And cheater? Good Lord. Yeah, those damn bbq's are really the deal closer to recruits I bet.

You're clueless.
 
#119
#119
ukvols said:
Seriously, not everybody wants that guy to be their coach. He is a dirtbag. Look at how he danced away from Memphis for a better job just as the curtain was coming down. He didn't just change overnight. The guy epitomizes the used car salesmen reputation that college coaches have.
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I'm sure Smails and others will come in here screaming brown noser and the like, but my honest opinion of Cal isn't what most would think.

Let me state that I love what Cal has done with the program, I love the prominence and return to the top that the program has enjoyed. However, I'm afraid that one day it will come with a price. I'm not here to debate Cals past, but rather the present and the future. Cal says all the right things about the program, about it being the best, unparallelled, but the UK program isn't any more special to his heart than Memphis or Umass, it's just a higher ranking piece on the Chess board. Cal would have left Memphis for Kansas, Duke, UNC, and had the same song and dance.

Everyone has their own opinions and preferences, some would rather have instant gratification, which Cal has delivered, some would rather see a long term coach build something special, and sustainable. In a perfect world, I would love a coach like Izzo or Jay Wright, who have turned down multiple offers to build something special. My soul isn't for sale if you get my drift, and I have the same feelings about the UK program. I don't like risking its name and its tradition for 5 or 6 years of temporary bliss.

If I had one wish to make for this program, it would be that Rick never left for the NBA, which he has admitted as well. So in the end, I honestly understand where people come from when they say they wouldn't want Cal. For me, it's between a rock and a hard place.
 
#120
#120
Hardwood_fanatic said:
I'm sure Smails and others will come in here screaming brown noser and the like, but my honest opinion of Cal isn't what most would think.

Let me state that I love what Cal has done with the program, I love the prominence and return to the top that the program has enjoyed. However, I'm afraid that one day it will come with a price. I'm not here to debate Cals past, but rather the present and the future. Cal says all the right things about the program, about it being the best, unparallelled, but the UK program isn't any more special to his heart than Memphis or Umass, it's just a higher ranking piece on the Chess board. Cal would have left Memphis for Kansas, Duke, UNC, and had the same song and dance.

Everyone has their own opinions and preferences, some would rather have instant gratification, which Cal has delivered, some would rather see a long term coach build something special, and sustainable. In a perfect world, I would love a coach like Izzo or Jay Wright, who have turned down multiple offers to build something special. My soul isn't for sale if you get my drift, and I have the same feelings about the UK program. I don't like risking its name and its tradition for 5 or 6 years of temporary bliss.

If I had one wish to make for this program, it would be that Rick never left for the NBA, which he has admitted as well. So in the end, I honestly understand where people come from when they say they wouldn't want Cal. For me, it's between a rock and a hard place.
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Exactly. I said the same thing myself just a few days ago and the Ky homers would have none of it. Where is there to go for Cal? LOL. His ego will tell him where to go and they don't want to hear that.

There are very few coaches in the game that give two sh*ts about the program they are coaching at. You can believe the sh*t they're shoveling, but in the end all they care about is themselves. If you think they do then you are a blind homer and are fooling yourself.

I thought Pearl cared for UT for the most part. I think he was loyal because he knew UT had given him a chance when he had been blackballed because of the Illinois deal. He and Cal have enormous egos though and I knew if the situation was right, he would be gone. I figured we would have him for 8-10 years tops anyway.

Myself, I lost a lot of respect for Pearl after the lying to the NCAA deal. It showed to me and a lot of other people that ultimately, he cared mainly about himself. Just like most egotistical, narcissistic people do. Also, when you damage the university's reputation and it's athletic program that I support financially and with a lot of time then it pisses me off and lets me know that you were mainly in it for yourself and didn't care what damage you caused it.

Cal comes with baggage and everyone knows it. Barnhart knew it and the Ky brass knew it but they jumped both feet in hoping that he would run a clean program. Time will tell if their gamble pays off.
 
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#121
#121
OrangeBalls said:
Yeah, he only won more SEC games than any other program in his 6 year tenure, won the East 3 times and the SEC outright and had 3 Sweet 16's and an Elite 8. If that's mediocre, give me more of that.

And cheater? Good Lord. Yeah, those damn bbq's are really the deal closer to recruits I bet.

You're clueless.
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I love it! Anyone who doesnt agree is stupid or clueless. :lolabove: And that goes for everyone!! You have to be a female to be this angry all the time. Are you pregnant by chance?

Yes, Bruce was a cheater. His players werent found guilty (well, they were when they were arrested) but Pearl was. Not only was he guilty, but he lied repetitively when asked questions and shown pics of his bbq.

This is great! You bash Cal for something that the your savior is guilty to the teeth for and you're defending it. This is the reason I love coming here, the entertainment value is top notch!
 
#122
#122
Hardwood_fanatic said:
I'm sure Smails and others will come in here screaming brown noser and the like, but my honest opinion of Cal isn't what most would think.

Let me state that I love what Cal has done with the program, I love the prominence and return to the top that the program has enjoyed. However, I'm afraid that one day it will come with a price. I'm not here to debate Cals past, but rather the present and the future. Cal says all the right things about the program, about it being the best, unparallelled, but the UK program isn't any more special to his heart than Memphis or Umass, it's just a higher ranking piece on the Chess board. Cal would have left Memphis for Kansas, Duke, UNC, and had the same song and dance.

Everyone has their own opinions and preferences, some would rather have instant gratification, which Cal has delivered, some would rather see a long term coach build something special, and sustainable. In a perfect world, I would love a coach like Izzo or Jay Wright, who have turned down multiple offers to build something special. My soul isn't for sale if you get my drift, and I have the same feelings about the UK program. I don't like risking its name and its tradition for 5 or 6 years of temporary bliss.

If I had one wish to make for this program, it would be that Rick never left for the NBA, which he has admitted as well. So in the end, I honestly understand where people come from when they say they wouldn't want Cal. For me, it's between a rock and a hard place.
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There must be something wrong with the above; it makes too much sense.
Easily the most level-headed opinion I have seen a UK fan express of Calipari.
 
#123
#123
Judge_Smails said:
I love it! Anyone who doesnt agree is stupid or clueless. :lolabove: And that goes for everyone!! You have to be a female to be this angry all the time. Are you pregnant by chance?

Yes, Bruce was a cheater. His players werent found guilty (well, they were when they were arrested) but Pearl was. Not only was he guilty, but he lied repetitively when asked questions and shown pics of his bbq.

This is great! You bash Cal for something that the your savior is guilty to the teeth for and you're defending it. This is the reason I love coming here, the entertainment value is top notch!
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And here comes the biggest homer moron of them all.

Clueless was in response to the mediocre comment and the cheating comment.

Of course, you would have to have a clue to even be able to understand.

I think it's pretty obvious that you have to sit down to take a piss. No one in their right mind uses exclamation points and pathetic emoticons as much as you. What's next? Cute lil Ky accessories that you put on your purse?
 
#124
#124
OrangeBalls said:
Exactly. I said the same thing myself just a few days ago and the Ky homers would have none of it. Where is there to go for Cal? LOL. His ego will tell him where to go and they don't want to hear that.

There are very few coaches in the game that give two sh*ts about the program they are coaching at. You can believe the sh*t they're shoveling, but in the end all they care about is themselves. If you think they do then you are a blind homer and are fooling yourself.

I thought Pearl cared for UT for the most part. I think he was loyal because he knew UT had given him a chance when he had been blackballed because of the Illinois deal. He and Cal have enormous egos though and I knew if the situation was right, he would be gone. I figured we would have him for 8-10 years tops anyway.

Myself, I lost a lot of respect for Pearl after the lying to the NCAA deal. It showed to me and a lot of other people that ultimately, he cared mainly about himself. Just like most egotistical, narcissistic people do. Also, when you damage the university's reputation and it's athletic program that I support financially and with a lot of time then it pisses me off and lets me know that you were mainly in it for yourself and didn't care what damage you caused it.

Cal comes with baggage and everyone knows it. Barnhart knew it and the Ky brass knew it but they jumped both feet in hoping that he would run a clean program. Time will tell if their gamble pays off.
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That's another thing. My gut feeling is that Cal can actually run a clean program at UK, because of the fact that it is UK. Once you build that NBA pipeline, the program recruits itself. Now, can a player accept benefits and still screw the program? Absolutely, but it is possible for him to run a clean program at UK.

In a way I understand the hire. UK needed a home run after the Gillispie debacle, and they whiffed on Donovan, Izzo and Wright. Cal offered them a golden ticket, and they took it. It's just that when it comes down to it for me, I support the school and the state, ABOVE the basketball program. It is a matter of pride, not just athletic pride. Most do not understand what you are sacrificing by supporting on the latter of those two choices.
 
#125
#125
OrangeBalls said:
Exactly. I said the same thing myself just a few days ago and the Ky homers would have none of it. Where is there to go for Cal? LOL. His ego will tell him where to go and they don't want to hear that.

There are very few coaches in the game that give two sh*ts about the program they are coaching at. You can believe the sh*t they're shoveling, but in the end all they care about is themselves. If you think they do then you are a blind homer and are fooling yourself.

I thought Pearl cared for UT for the most part. I think he was loyal because he knew UT had given him a chance when he had been blackballed because of the Illinois deal. He and Cal have enormous egos though and I knew if the situation was right, he would be gone. I figured we would have him for 8-10 years tops anyway.

Myself, I lost a lot of respect for Pearl after the lying to the NCAA deal. It showed to me and a lot of other people that ultimately, he cared mainly about himself. Just like most egotistical, narcissistic people do. Also, when you damage the university's reputation and it's athletic program that I support financially and with a lot of time then it pisses me off and lets me know that you were mainly in it for yourself and didn't care what damage you caused it.

Cal comes with baggage and everyone knows it. Barnhart knew it and the Ky brass knew it but they jumped both feet in hoping that he would run a clean program. Time will tell if their gamble pays off.
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This is why I contend that they wouldn't have touched Calipari if they didn't feel desperate. You're talking about a program that needs to win, and they had just gone to the NIT. They probably could have had Calipari two years earlier. Perhaps the baggage was enough to deter them when the program was in better shape.
 
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