Just So Everyone Knows, Gruden is a .500 head coach.

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Look...just playing devils advocate and have some questions myself. I have no doubt that he should be able to recruit. I don't know much about him, Morris, or any of the other coaches suggested that he might be bringing if he came but looking at them and what they have accomplished isn't anything that shouts home run to me. Don't get me wrong, I am all for Gruden getting the job in hopes that he can turn this around. I understand that NFL and college are completely different but it's not necessarily a given that he would be outstanding in college. The argument has been made that the superbowl he won was with Dungy's team and he was shortly fired afterwards. Morris was fired as well. I'm all about hoping he turns out well but I am less convinced that he would come in and be the home run we so desperately need. Can someone convince me?
 
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Negateer said:
All this talk about how great he is...well, his record isn't much better than Derek Dooley's.

Just FYI

His pro record was .540.

He could be a potential disaster that we would be stuck with for years and years.
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The NFL is a completely different animal than the NCAA. .540 is actual pretty typical in the NFL.
 
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OrangeFrog said:
Look...just playing devils advocate and have some questions myself. I have no doubt that he should be able to recruit. I don't know much about him, Morris, or any of the other coaches suggested that he might be bringing if he came but looking at them and what they have accomplished isn't anything that shouts home run to me. Don't get me wrong, I am all for Gruden getting the job in hopes that he can turn this around. I understand that NFL and college are completely different but it's not necessarily a given that he would be outstanding in college. The argument has been made that the superbowl he won was with Dungy's team and he was shortly fired afterwards. Morris was fired as well. I'm all about hoping he turns out well but I am less convinced that he would come in and be the home run we so desperately need. Can someone convince me?
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Oh CRAP!!!!! You`ve had it now.:popcorn:
 
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A couple of you apparently never done any research on NFL winning percentages. Guy Chamberlin is #1 with .784, that is just slightly higher than Fulmers's .745 but you really cant even compare college to the NFL. Totally different animal.

So, just looking at the NFL. John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin were tied at the beginning of the season at .688. The NFL is tough, there are no gimmies.

I dont get why anyone would question hiring Gruden. It would be the biggest hire in college football ever.
 
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Hopvol said:
A couple of you apparently never done any research on NFL winning percentages. Guy Chamberlin is #1 with .784, that is just slightly higher than Fulmers's .745 but you really cant even compare college to the NFL. Totally different animal.

So, just looking at the NFL. John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin were tied at the beginning of the season at .688. The NFL is tough, there are no gimmies.

I dont get why anyone would question hiring Gruden. It would be the biggest hire in college football ever.
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EDIT: Forgot to mention, that .688 tie was for 7th all time.
 
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OWB said:
Gruden = better recruits.

Better recruits = more wins.
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So our stance is that since he can recruit like a mug, coaching is less important? I am completely sold on the fact that he would be a huge improvement on HC duties on game day. Much less time out, personnel, discipline issues. I am just asking, is it solely recruiting most are so confident in?
 
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Just so you know...look above.

He won that before the owners of the Bucs turned their attention to funding Manchester United. He really wasn't allowed to rebuild the Bucs in the free agency market after that point. Money that would've went to replacing Sapp, Brooks, and the other key elements of that team went towards making sure Wayne Rooney and Ryan Giggs got paid.
 
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Trying to compare NFL to college is pointless. You're pretty much saying Dooley could win a Super Bowl. Get a clue.
 
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i found damning evidence why gruden should not be the next coach at tennessee.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJIjVtlAcA8[/youtube]
 
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JL 103 said:
Fixed dummy. Phil would have been killed in the NFL
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You say that cause when Phil took over at TN you still had momma's milk on your chin. He was a very sought after coach at the time. I dont know if he would have been any good in the NFL and you dont either.
 
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NFL is a completely different animal then the college game. An above .500 in the pros is actually really good, especially over the course on a career.
 
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Negateer said:
All this talk about how great he is...well, his record isn't much better than Derek Dooley's.

Just FYI

His pro record was .540.

He could be a potential disaster that we would be stuck with for years and years.
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Keep in mind Saben didn't do too well in the NFL either. AND Saben never won a Super Bowl. Gruden has. People can say that Gruden won with Tony Dungy's team as well, but the reality is that Gruden still had to get the team there and he did. I will take my chances.
 
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