Kentucky lost again

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omghulkhands said:
These people would lose their minds being fans of professional basketball or baseball teams. Where even the best teams lose a bunch of games every year.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about....I am absolutely FUMING that the Red Sox last season lost their Thursday June 16th game to Paul Blackburn of the Athletics. SCRUBS! How can you lose THAT game. Of all games. You only have 162 in a season. Professional baseball players my ass.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Landing talent has never been the issue. On paper, they have the best class in 12 years coming in, next year.
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It will be interesting to see if 2024 is a make or break season for Calipari at Kentucky even with the high ranked class that he is bringing in.
 
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omghulkhands said:
These people would lose their minds being fans of professional basketball or baseball teams. Where even the best teams lose a bunch of games every year.
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I don't even remember games played in baseball played a week later. "Oh we lost 10-0 to the Reds....huh....weird...."
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Our fan base is so basketball ignorant…zero understanding that there are bad matchups, road games are a thing, cold nights happen, or that some unexpected losses occur to every single team.
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This seems like an unnecessarily snobbish comment.

Both Tennessee fans and administrators alike, regard Kentucky as the most significant home game played during the regular season. I mention administrators, because whenever we are honoring either a former player or team, it is usually done during the Kentucky game. That was the case again this season with Chris Lofton. It is only natural that a Tennessee fan would be more disappointed by an ugly loss against UK than they would be in any other regular season game. It is ridiculous of you to chide Tennessee fans for attaching more importance to that game than any other ... when that is exactly what our administration does.

... and it goes even deeper than that. The performance of our team vs Kentucky was especially porous. It's not like Kentucky stepped up their game either. They shot 18-51 from the field, and still won. This was after Kentucky had just lost at home to South Carolina, of all teams. Of course, that loss is going to aggravate Tennessee fans, and it should. Our expectations have been raised during the Barnes era.

My basic point here is this :

You can't talk about the regular season home game against Kentucky as though it's just any other game. It's not.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This seems like an unnecessarily snobbish comment.

Both Tennessee fans and administrators alike, regard Kentucky as the most significant home game played during the regular season. I mention administrators, because whenever we are honoring either a former player or team, it is usually done during the Kentucky game. That was the case again this season with Chris Lofton. It is only natural that a Tennessee fan would be more disappointed by an ugly loss against UK than they would be in any other regular season game. It is ridiculous of you to chide Tennessee fans for attaching more importance to that game than any other ... when that is exactly what our administration does.

... and it goes even deeper than that. The performance of our team vs Kentucky was especially porous. It's not like Kentucky stepped up their game either. They shot 18-51 from the field, and still won. This was after Kentucky had just lost at home to South Carolina, of all teams. Of course, that loss is going to aggravate Tennessee fans, and it should. Our expectations have been raised during the Barnes era.

My basic point here is this :

You can't talk about the regular season home game against Kentucky as though it's just any other game. It's not.
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I mean the only point he was trying to make is that our fans who call it an ugly loss are wrong. Like by definition of the term “ugly loss” in the eyes of the committee. Does it have greater symbolic meaning? Sure. But, does anyone consider a loss to Alabama or Georgia in football an ugly loss? Hell no! Score differential be damned, losing to Georgia or Alabama hurts but it is quite literally not an “ugly loss” in the eyes of the playoff committee.

The Kentucky game is obviously important to fans. But, those same fans getting all emotional and trying to claim it’s an ugly loss and a black eye on the program need to take a deep breathe and realize it’s not that case at all.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Expectations will be sky high. Will be really hard to do anything but disappoint IMO
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Seen a lot of their fans proclaiming “title or bust” next year.

10 years ago you could roll out a bunch of super freshmen and out-talent your way to a title. I’m not so sure that’s true now. Most recent champions have been led by experienced players.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This seems like an unnecessarily snobbish comment.

My basic point here is this :

You can't talk about the regular season home game against Kentucky as though it's just any other game. It's not.
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Where did I single out the Kentucky game in my post? I’m referring to the whole picture, I’ve seen references to Colorado, Kentucky and Florida games.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I mean the only point he was trying to make is that our fans who call it an ugly loss are wrong. Like by definition of the term “ugly loss” in the eyes of the committee. Does it have greater symbolic meaning? Sure. But, does anyone consider a loss to Alabama or Georgia in football an ugly loss? Hell no! Score differential be damned, losing to Georgia or Alabama hurts but it is quite literally not an “ugly loss” in the eyes of the playoff committee.

The Kentucky game is obviously important to fans. But, those same fans getting all emotional and trying to claim it’s an ugly loss and a black eye on the program need to take a deep breathe and realize it’s not that case at all.
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His tone was unnecessarily hostile. It is not ignorant for Tennessee fans to be angered by such a bad performance at home and loss to Kentucky .... especially so, in a season where they are clearly not as good as they normally are.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
His tone was unnecessarily hostile. It is not ignorant for Tennessee fans to be angered by such a bad performance at home and loss to Kentucky .... especially so, in a season where they are clearly not as good as they normally are.
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If losing to Kentucky makes them angry to the point they have to show their a$$ in the basketball forum, then this sport is not for them.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Where did I single out the Kentucky game in my post? I’m referring to the whole picture, I’ve seen references to Colorado, Kentucky and Florida games.
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You didn't specifically single out Kentucky, but since this thread pertains to Kentucky, I assumed that was what you were talking about. If not? Fine .... but calling people ignorant was a bit much.
 
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Careful BB. If you don't agree with some of them, they will flame you out. Your opinion doesn't count if it crosses theirs and it is ill-informed obviously.
 
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orangemadam said:
Careful BB. If you don't agree with some of them, they will flame you out. Your opinion doesn't count if it crosses theirs and it is ill-informed obviously.
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You all being ridiculous. The only point people have made is that the posters that are crying foul over a Kentucky loss need to chill. It’s a lot more reasonable to be angry about the Colorado loss or Florida loss (to a degree) but Kentucky is not an “ugly loss”. Like I said, it’s completely fine to be angry that we lost to a rival but you can’t say that it’s an ugly loss or black mark on our record because that’s just objectively not true. It’s our 2nd “best” loss of the season.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Then I stand by what I said as well. That is snobbish rhetoric.
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Cool. Go read some of the takes folks have had about our games against Colorado, Kentucky & Florida if you think they are intelligent thought out and educated posts then more power to you, I happen to think there’s quite a few ignorant ones from folks who don’t understand college basketball.
 
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Two things can be true:
1. The Kentucky loss is uniquely upsetting and deserving of frustration because its our biggest rival, who beat us at home cause we missed a bunch of layups, while we are in the hunt for a one seed and they are not nearly as good as they are most years
2. The loss is not going to torpedo our program or even season, and ultimately isn't some completely inexcusable loss
Nobody is ignorant for being upset at that loss, but they are (or at least ill-informed) if they think it drops us two seed lines or something, or that that game should serve as a referendum on Barnes
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
You all being ridiculous. The only point people have made is that the posters that are crying foul over a Kentucky loss need to chill. It’s a lot more reasonable to be angry about the Colorado loss or Florida loss (to a degree) but Kentucky is not an “ugly loss”. Like I said, it’s completely fine to be angry that we lost to a rival but you can’t say that it’s an ugly loss or black mark on our record because that’s just objectively not true. It’s our 2nd “best” loss of the season.
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LOL.

I guess that all depends on how you define what an "ugly loss" is. It definitely was an ugly performance in a game we were favored to win, and against a team which had been struggling. This is a far cry from vintage Kentucky. Our fans expected something better and were understandably discouraged by it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This seems like an unnecessarily snobbish comment.

Both Tennessee fans and administrators alike, regard Kentucky as the most significant home game played during the regular season. I mention administrators, because whenever we are honoring either a former player or team, it is usually done during the Kentucky game. That was the case again this season with Chris Lofton. It is only natural that a Tennessee fan would be more disappointed by an ugly loss against UK than they would be in any other regular season game. It is ridiculous of you to chide Tennessee fans for attaching more importance to that game than any other ... when that is exactly what our administration does.

... and it goes even deeper than that. The performance of our team vs Kentucky was especially porous. It's not like Kentucky stepped up their game either. They shot 18-51 from the field, and still won. This was after Kentucky had just lost at home to South Carolina, of all teams. Of course, that loss is going to aggravate Tennessee fans, and it should. Our expectations have been raised during the Barnes era.

My basic point here is this :

You can't talk about the regular season home game against Kentucky as though it's just any other game. It's not.
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You can be disappointed and understand its significance without calling it a "bad loss." We get casual fans around this time of year who don't know what the committee views as a bad loss. UK was not one. Was it disappointing? Sure.

Losing to UK in basketball has happened a lot over the years and will continue. The great thing is that our current coach has bucked the trend a bit and is 9-8 against them.
 
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Vol49er said:
Two things can be true:
1. The Kentucky loss is uniquely upsetting and deserving of frustration because its our biggest rival, who beat us at home cause we missed a bunch of layups, while we are in the hunt for a one seed and they are not nearly as good as they are most years
2. The loss is not going to torpedo our program or even season, and ultimately isn't some completely inexcusable loss
Nobody is ignorant for being upset at that loss, but they are (or at least ill-informed) if they think it drops us two seed lines or something, or that that game should serve as a referendum on Barnes
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This X 1000.

I call it a bad loss, but I don't mean it like the actual meaning of a bad loss as defined by the metrics. I mean it's bad for the reasons you mentioned. That game means more to me. And if we lose at Rupp I'm going to be even more disappointed because we simply shouldn't be swept by them this year.

The Florida game? Sure it sucked but it's a road SEC game and we were coming off a huge win and about to play Auburn at home, which at this point is a bigger game than Florida because of all the factors involved. Colorado? I don't even care about that game anymore, it was the 2nd game of the year and literally nobody cares. And it's not a good loss but they're also over .500 so it's not an absolutely terrible loss either.

But even having said that about UK, if we have a good NCAAT run it's not like even then that's going to matter. As I said in another thread, go back and look what happened in the regular season the year we went to the E8. We got swept by Vandy, we went 1-2 against UK and lost by almost 30 to them in the SECT, plus we had a few other "questionable" losses. Nobody cared.
 
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Vol49er said:
The Kentucky loss is uniquely upsetting and deserving of frustration because its our biggest rival, who beat us at home cause we missed a bunch of layups
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That was exasperating to watch. That loss wasn't due to some inspired defensive effort by Kentucky.
 
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