Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes

[ClearwaterVol]

it was an explanation for why one group riots and the other doesn't. (or whatever # of groups there are). power status is a predictor of proclivity to riot per your statement.

I asked if that means the Jan 6 rioters fit that mold and got nothing.

So, let's get this straight, if I fail to respond to post you get carte blanche lie about and change my position?

My position is and remains quite simple, "It is people that feel powerless that riot."

If you want your question answered, I do believe the people of Jan. 6th felt powerless.

 

[volinbham]

So, let's get this straight, if I fail to respond to post you get carte blanche lie about and change my position?

My position is and remains quite simple, "It is people that feel powerless that riot."

If you want your question answered, I do believe the people of Jan. 6th felt powerless.

I disagree that I carte blanche lied and changed your position. If it were then this post from you "But on January 6th it was a few patriots out for a tour and stroll about the Capitol Building" is doing the same since no one has made that claim. Seems that fits the complaint you have against me that merited a "zero ethics" charge.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Really ? Democrat wants employers to let black workers take the day off after the Rittenhouse verdict

Did he kill any black folks? Or just White commies?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Again, two dead white dudes and a white man on trial and I am supposed to feel bad for blacks?

Because of that slavery thing way back 156 years ago or some kind of nonsense to get off work.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Did he kill any black folks? Or just White commies?

No blacks were harmed in the mayhem caused by those white boys that night.

 

[ButchPlz]

Because of that slavery thing way back 156 years ago or some kind of nonsense to get off work.

Ah, yes. I see. They know that white Western men virtually ended the millennia-long practice of enslaving people in their countries and are seeking to honor that memory by standing up for the fine dead white men. Do I have these folks pegged right?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Ah, yes. I see. They know that white Western men virtually ended the millennia-long practice of enslaving people in their countries and are seeking to honor that memory by standing up for the fine dead white men. Do I have these folks pegged right?

Of course.

 

[SuzyVol]

What protections does a juror have? if I were on the jury I wouldn't be concerned about the mob rioting in the city. I'd be concerned about a mob assaulting me for not voting the way they want me to.

Well, like prosecutor says, everybody needs a good beating occasionally.

 

[RockyTop85]

Thanks for the link. Interesting read. It appears to be a way for the prosecution to say “if you don’t believe he committed the crime we charged him with than find him guilty of something else”. That doesn’t seem like it should be legal. Why should the prosecution be allowed to charge him with the highest offense they can but then say if we didn’t prove the crime we charged him for, then give him this charge. It seems an unfair process to me. If the prosecution doesn’t have enough evidence, then don’t charge him for the higher crime.

I’d be worried that the cases where the defendant is clearly guilty of something and gets convicted of an overcharge because it was the jury’s only option would outweigh the benefit.

 

[825VOL]

I’d be worried that the cases where the defendant is clearly guilty of something and gets convicted of an overcharge because it was the jury’s only option would outweigh the benefit.

If the jury was doing their job correctly, that would not be a worry. Guilty of something should not allow a prosecutor to charge them with as much as they can in hopes of the jury picking out something they did wrong. Either they committed the crime you charged them with or they didn’t. It shouldn’t be that hard.

 

[NCFisher]

Did he kill any black folks? Or just White commies?

White ones, but BLM is a blackface commie movement inspired by old, dead white German racists, just as the 'progressive' movement was. Killing lawless white commies and perverts - and possibly being exonerated for it - is a threat to the insurrectionist American Marxist movement.

For those who've been asking, this is why black & white commie and anarcho groups are threatening riots; white guys (and black ones) getting shot are expendable, but the movement is not.

 

[RockyTop85]

I'd read that if the judge declares mistrial with prejudice, Rittenhouse cannot be tried again. If jurors are afraid to do the right thing, is there another remedy?

Lock the whackos who threatened the jurors up for the absolute maximum amount of time and try the case again.

I don’t think the mistrial with prejudice would stand up in that circumstance because it’s essentially punishing the entire community for the actions of some members and maybe nonmembers over whom they have no control. They can fire the prosecutor, whose actions typically trigger that that outcome.

(To be clear, anybody saying the jurors are being intimidated is speculating. Nobody is in the room with them and they’re prohibited from discussing the case with anyone.)

 

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[Septic]

They’re saying the DA is no fool and didn’t want anything to do with this case (apparently has further career aspirations) - dumped it on the ADA.

gator rolls down hill.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I swear, these white liberals are going to be the death of this country. This self hatred is getting out of hand...

Psaki Refuses to Explain Why Biden Labeled Rittenhouse a ‘White Supremacist’ (msn.com)

She can’t. To acknowledge the statement Biden made she’s cutting all their throats. There can be no satisfactory explanation.

 

[NCFisher]

Lock the whackos who threatened the jurors up for the absolute maximum amount of time and try the case again.

I don’t think the mistrial with prejudice would stand up in that circumstance because it’s essentially punishing the entire community for the actions of some members and maybe nonmembers over whom they have no control. They can fire the prosecutor, whose actions typically trigger that that outcome.

(To be clear, anybody saying the jurors are being intimidated is speculating. Nobody is in the room with them and they’re prohibited from discussing the case with anyone.)

Sure, the question presumes the worse (that jurors are being pressured by potential of violence).
Similarly, assuming prosecution withheld video evidence, could that trigger a mistrial/WP ruling?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Tucker: Why did they let Kenosha burn?
Nov. 17, 2021 - 15:45 - 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' host discusses the Kyle Rittenhouse trial




Tucker Carlson: Why did the people in charge let Kenosha be destroyed?
This whole spectacle is appalling



Just another evening in what has become a pretty high drama country, really. The jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has gone home for the night after many hours of deliberations today. The average jury reaches a verdict in just a few hours, so these jurors are taking much longer than most.

But it's probably not because the evidence they have heard is confusing them. In a typical trial, an insider trading trial for example, something complex, an honest observer might be able to see both sides of the case and probably can. But that is not true here, far from it.

In fact, it's the opposite from the very first moments of this trial it was obvious that Kyle Rittenhouse never should have been indicted in the first place. The key question was: Did Kyle Rittenhouse act in self-defense that night in Kenosha? And the answer unequivocally is yes. Obviously, it's a no-brainer. It's like the O.J. trial, no honest person could reach a different conclusion.

Kyle Rittenhouse shot men he believed were trying to kill him. Now, why did Kyle Rittenhouse believe that, you may ask? Well, in one case, the man he shot told him so directly, "I plan to kill you." Of the other two men Kyle Rittenhouse shot, one repeatedly bashed him in the head with a skateboard as he lay on the ground. The other stuck a loaded gun in his face. So Kyle Rittenhouse fought back in order to save his own life.

Tucker Carlson: Why did the people in charge let Kenosha be destroyed?

Rittenhouse Trial: Maurice Freeland Suspected Of Being 'Jump Kick Man'

 

[RockyTop85]

Sure, the question presumes the worse (that jurors are being pressured by potential of violence).
Similarly, assuming prosecution withheld video evidence, could that trigger a mistrial/WP ruling?

The prosecution thing definitely could. I just played that argument in the background while working and I thought both sides had compelling explanations.

State is basically saying they don’t know how to compress the file, didn’t have time to compress the file, and think the respective software did it. I’ve experienced that with photographs transmitted by phone in the past.

Defense says “yeah but…” and the file names are different and there is some discrepancy in the metadata.

State says that former attorney John Pierce was on Tucker Carlson with the video in August 2020 so the defense technically had it.

The judge’s comment was basically that he’s playing shortstop and maybe the ball won’t come to him, which means if they acquit or hang it probably doesn’t get ruled on.

I don’t think the threats get a mistrial w/ prejudice because, basically, I think that’s intended to be reserved for prosecutorial misconduct and I don’t think there’s enough of a nexus between that harm and the remedy. I think that’s where you start burying people under the jail and hold another trial.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Where have I seen that before?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Democrat Rep. Cori Bush: If Kyle Rittenhouse Acquitted, White Supremacists ‘Can Shoot at Us’

Rep. Cori Bush (D-MO) believes that if 18-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse gets acquitted on the grounds of self-defense, white supremacists will be emboldened to shoot at Black Lives Matter protesters.

Cori Bush: If Rittenhouse Walks, White Supremacists 'Can Shoot at Us'

Guess if Cory isn’t trying to kill someone she’s safe.

 

[85SugarVol]

 

[NurseGoodVol]

If he is found NG, would all the guys that attacked him not need charged with assault? That would be a weird twist.

Gun charges against the one with the .45 have already been dropped pretrial. They should have been charged but it wouldn’t look good for prosecution to have their witness under charges for illegal gun possession and many other charges during this trial. This isn’t justice it’s a clown show.

 

[85SugarVol]

I don’t think the threats get a mistrial w/ prejudice because, basically, I think that’s intended to be reserved for prosecutorial misconduct and I don’t think there’s enough of a nexus between that harm and the remedy. I think that’s where you start burying people under the jail and hold another trial.

why was this trial held locally ? Should it have been moved, and should the jury have been sequestered?