Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes

[BayVol7]

And an unarmed, unthreatening lady was murdered and nobody was held accountable. Not even a trial. Is that how it works?

Unthreatening?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Society has become so weak

 

[DynaLo]

Sheesh idk. The case can be made that they were trying protect others by removing an imminent threat from the street.

Imminent threat? So besides the attackers, exactly how many other people that were chasing him did Kyle actually shoot at?

 

[BayVol7]

Do you understand that the jury agreeing with self defense on the higher charges automatically erased the lesser charges.
If he’d have somehow been originally given lesser charges the jury would have still acquitted on self defense grounds based on the evidence they saw.
It’s either self defense or it’s not, there is no well maybe involved.

Um, this is not how it works. Self defense is not a charge against the other party. It is a legal defense weighed accordingly to each charge presented.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Lmfao there was literally a riot on the capital to stop our democratic process earlier this year. Please move the goal post again

You really think that’s what they were doing?

 

[volfanhill]

That riot took place because the “process” was not followed. Like it or not Biden is not the president because he was not elected by us. That was Trump. Biden was put in place by the left.

Yea you are stupid. As a Republican I mean that. Or the Don is the biggest Cuck in POTUS history. So you tell me which.

 

[C-south]

Unthreatening?

What was the evidence where she threatened/assaulted the person that shot her?

 

[BayVol7]

Their version of self defense should have been don’t physically attack someone with a firearm. Duh.

If Huber would have disarmed the kid (which is what he was attempting), he would still be alive and the last individual would not have lost an arm

 

[C-south]

If Huber would have disarmed the kid (which is what he was attempting), he would still be alive and the last individual would not have lost an arm

Sounds like Kyle is a bad ass instead of the scared kid you keep spewing. Also sounds like the criminals were stupid and weak.

 

[BayVol7]

What was the evidence where she threatened/assaulted the person that shot her?

The fact that she was at the front of an angry mob trying to penetrate the Speakers Lobby

 

[volfanhill]

If Huber would have disarmed the kid (which is what he was attempting), he would still be alive and the last individual would not have lost an arm

He had no right to disarm the kid

 

[BayVol7]

You really think that’s what they were doing?

Nah! There were there to help peacefully put Biden in office

 

[hndog609]

I was specifically responding to txbo saying two individuals were going to murder the kid.
I’ve said over and over again that WI SD requirement has a lower threshold than most states. I even quoted the regulation. To be clear, out of the three incidents, I don’t believe the 2nd murder was justified under WI SD.

Your apathetic approach to how self defense law is defined is not serving you well. Let's try another approach to vet KT's justification for self defense.

Sometimes the approaches taken by opposing counsel can tell you a great deal. If the defense has a really bad case you can get all manner of Hail Mary attempts. Prosecutors with poor cases... well if you followed the Rittenhouse trial (as in actually followed, not just sampled curated bits pushed out through media) you'd have seen an ADA doing his best to polish a turd. Meanwhile the defense was mostly "Here's testimony, here's pics and here's video justifying a verdict for self defense in accordance with the law." That's why KR is free.

 

[BayVol7]

He had no right to disarm the kid

I ultimately agree here. It seems as if he was trying too hard to play hero.

 

[C-south]

The fact that she was at the front of an angry mob trying to penetrate the Speakers Lobby

So murder.

 

[BayVol7]

Your apathetic approach to how self defense law is defined is not serving you well. Let's try another approach to vet KT's justification for self defense.

Sometimes the approaches taken by opposing counsel can tell you a great deal. If the defense has a really bad case you can get all manner of Hail Mary attempts. Prosecutors with poor cases... well if you followed the Rittenhouse trial (as in actually followed, not just sampled curated bits pushed out through media) you'd have seen an ADA doing his best to polish a turd. Meanwhile the defense was mostly "Here's testimony, here's pics and here's video justifying a verdict for self defense in accordance with the law." That's why KR is free.

Partially correct here IMO. He is free because of what he was ultimately charged with and the framing of case by the judge.

 

[volfanhill]

I ultimately agree here. It seems as if he was trying too hard to play hero.

Agreed

 

[hndog609]

Partially correct here IMO. He is free because of what he was ultimately charged with and the framing of case by the judge.

He was charged with shooting people and freed because he met the legal justification for acting in self defense. AT BEST the rest is self serving speculation on your part.

 

[DynaLo]

I (not WI law) don’t think one shot was warranted in the 1st murder. The last victim who last an arm is the hardest instance to argue differently given the facts that have come to light.
Pretty sure I said he had an AR-15 but I’m definitely not a gun expert.

Actually, after the death threats from Rosenbaum Kyle could legally have shot him in self defense when he paused running, turned slightly and saw Rosenbaum still chasing him. Kyle instead tried to run and escape him and only shot once Rosenbaum’s hand was on his rifle barrel. Some interesting photos presented from the state medical examiner showing the gunshot to Rosenbaum’s hand which had soot and gun shot residue on it that only could have come from his hand being on the rifle.

Kyle had an AR. Gaige ran up on him and pointed that .40 caliber Glock at his head.
See Gaige used to have a concealed carry permit until the state revoked it. Part of getting that permit is the classes where everyone learns the 4 absolute universal rules of firearms, one of which is NEVER let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to destroy.
Most folks that carry a firearm would have dropped Gaige center mass as soon as he pointed that Glock at them, and been justified in doing so.

 

[DynaLo]

Q? Don’t know why his past is held against him in this instance. He also had a diagnosed mental illness.

Because while his family may miss him, society at large won’t due to his unforgivable past and neither will those boys. Jail isn’t friendly to child rapists so perhaps being on the receiving instead of forcing side of life messed up his head.

 

[DynaLo]

Unthreatening?

Cops beat her to death and she was unarmed.
The folks near her begged the cops to stop, got pepper sprayed in response and the cops resumed beating her in the head. Then the cops dragged her body into the building out of sight.
All shown on video.

 

[DynaLo]

Um, this is not how it works. Self defense is not a charge against the other party. It is a legal defense weighed accordingly to each charge presented.

Sigh... part of the privilege of self defense is that the amount of force used was reasonably necessary to prevent or terminate the interference (attacks causing great bodily harm or death).

The lesser charges were premised on the amount of force used being unreasonable.

So by the jury finding the grounds for self defense were met by Kyle, they found the force used as reasonably necessary thus erasing the lesser charges.

 

[DynaLo]

If Huber would have disarmed the kid (which is what he was attempting), he would still be alive and the last individual would not have lost an arm

And Kyle would be dead with a .40 caliber bullet to the head.

 

[DynaLo]

Partially correct here IMO. He is free because of what he was ultimately charged with and the framing of case by the judge.

Charges... the DA threw the kitchen sink and then some at the kid to try and put him in jail.
Blaming the Democrat judge who let the prosecution get away with violating Kyle’s Constitutional rights during cross examination is comical.

 

[Septic]

You think the two people he murdered were on the verge of killing him? If so, we have a different understanding of the facts.

Look man, the jury heard and saw "the facts" first hand. It was pretty clear they were going to beat his ass (at a minimum) - he was defending himself. The kid is an idiot for being there and damn sure isn't the hero some are pretending he is but he was justified in his actions as evidenced by the jury's decision. The outrage over this by the left is nonsensical.