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#51
There has to be an underlying motivation for this. We all know it is not this "One T" crap. And, several posters have proven it isn't business. And, we all pretty much know this is more than just Hart and Cheeks. They are front men. It has to be a political decision. And, it sure isn't coming from the right side of the aisle.
 
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butchna said:
K...so you have a representative sample of liberal writers? Or is one sufficient? If Linda Chavez writes something similar are you going to include the Right?
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Christine Brennan is sufficient.
 
#53
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Sandvol said:
This isn't her full article but she has posted about it several times and written a full article.

Brennan: Hey Tennessee, celebrate women, not Lady Vols
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I didn't see any mention of political pressure in the article.

Sandvol said:
For you guys to sit here and argue that this isn't mostly coming from the left is disingenuous. So you're saying this is just a business decision? B.S.
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Prove that it is coming from left, other than one single writer.

Sandvol said:
He asked for an example and I gave him one. "Oh no that doesn't count. Give me another one."
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It didn't count because there was no mention of political pressure.

Sandvol said:
There has to be an underlying motivation for this. We all know it is not this "One T" crap. And, several posters have proven it isn't business. And, we all pretty much know this is more than just Hart and Cheeks. They are front men. It has to be a political decision. And, it sure isn't coming from the right side of the aisle.
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Again, prove it is a political decision. Prove it isn't coming from the right side.

Sandvol said:
Christine Brennan is sufficient.
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One writer and one story is only one story by one writer. Read into it what you want but there's nothing there.
 
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Slydell said:
I didn't see any mention of political pressure in the article.



Prove that it is coming from left, other than one single writer.



It didn't count because there was no mention of political pressure.



Again, prove it is a political decision. Prove it isn't coming from the right side.



One writer and one story is only one story by one writer. Read into it what you want but there's nothing there.
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She has written several articles about it. The articles in and of themselves are political. They are based from feminist ideas. She is the preeminent female sports columnist in the country. I don't need any other examples. So, she has to mention political pressure in her article for it to count as political pressure? That's kind of silly.
 
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Sly, if this decision wasn't political then what was it? It has to have some basis.
 
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Sandvol said:
For you guys to sit here and argue that this isn't mostly coming from the left is disingenuous. So you're saying this is just a business decision? B.S.
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Hey, I don't see any reason to get ugly with the BS stuff. I never said this was a business decision. All I said was I have trouble reconciling two views - that it is feminists that want to keep the LV logo and liberals that want to eliminate it. I also said I could be wrong.

I also read the Brennan artcle. There was nothing in it about political pressure from the university.
 
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LVJeff said:
Hey, I don't see any reason to get ugly with the BS stuff. I never said this was a business decision. All I said was I have trouble reconciling two views - that it is feminists that want to keep the LV logo and liberals that want to eliminate it. I also said I could be wrong.

I also read the Brennan artcle. There was nothing in it about political pressure from the university.
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The article in and of itself is political. The fact that Brennan wrote it brings political pressure. It is very subtle. There are not feminists marching in the streets. It is about political correctness, appeasement, progressivism. These kinds of things these days are kept in the shadows. They are not going to come out and say we are doing this because of our liberal ideas. They are going to make up some BS about a survey they did or "One Tennessee" crap. But, that is why they are doing it.
 
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What is the difference between political correctness and progressivism? Where does political correctness emanate from?
 
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Hey, if you guys don't like my views about how this came about then make your case for your views. I'd like to read them.
 
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Sandvol said:
The article in and of itself is political. The fact that Brennan wrote it brings political pressure. It is very subtle. There are not feminists marching in the streets. It is about political correctness, appeasement, progressivism. These kinds of things these days are kept in the shadows. They are not going to come out and say we are doing this because of our liberal ideas. They are going to make up some BS about a survey they did or "One Tennessee" crap. But, that is why they are doing it.
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No it isn't and no it doesn't. I fear that the aluminum foil hat you're wearing might cause damage due to over heating.
 
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Sandvol said:
Sly, if this decision wasn't political then what was it? It has to have some basis.
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I think it either goes back to Nike or some deep pockets booster who has been wanting it for some reason but didn't dare make a move while Pat was the coach.
 
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Sandvol said:
She has written several articles about it. The articles in and of themselves are political. They are based from feminist ideas. She is the preeminent female sports columnist in the country. I don't need any other examples. So, she has to mention political pressure in her article for it to count as political pressure? That's kind of silly.
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I think the bigger point is that she's one woman with her own viewpoint...it's more than possible to have an opinion separate from your political agenda. If you're insisting that conservatives unabashedly support the Lady Vols logo, then I'm proof that you're wrong. If you're insisting that liberals unabashedly bash the Lady Vols logo, then by his protests in this thread, I suspect that Slydell is proof that you're mega wrong...in triplicate. :)
 
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butchna said:
I think the bigger point is that she's one woman with her own viewpoint...it's more than possible to have an opinion separate from your political agenda. If you're insisting that conservatives unabashedly support the Lady Vols logo, then I'm proof that you're wrong. If you're insisting that liberals unabashedly bash the Lady Vols logo, then by his protests in this thread, I suspect that Slydell is proof that you're mega wrong...in triplicate. :)
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Well said, butchna.:hi:
 
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butchna said:
I think the bigger point is that she's one woman with her own viewpoint...it's more than possible to have an opinion separate from your political agenda. If you're insisting that conservatives unabashedly support the Lady Vols logo, then I'm proof that you're wrong. If you're insisting that liberals unabashedly bash the Lady Vols logo, then by his protests in this thread, I suspect that Slydell is proof that you're mega wrong...in triplicate. :)
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No she is more than one woman with her own viewpoint. She speaks for many on the left. No, never said conservatives unabashedly support the LV logo and liberals are against it. You are presuming a view for me and then arguing against it. But, political correctness emanates from the left. This is irrefutable.
 
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Sandvol said:
It must really get uncomfortable at your parties sometimes.
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When you have cognizant moments and realize the high percentage of your flawed arguments? I'm sure your hootenannies are the bomb also. Looking forward to the Italian Judges report explaining how wrong your Amanda Knox opinion was also. :clapping:
 
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Slydell said:
I said, "I THINK", no proof needed for a thought.
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Well, I said probably some powerful boosters are involved so I agree with you there. However, I don't think Nike is a factor and we've already debated that on this board. Nike doesn't care. They make money either way. Hart used Nike as a tool not the other way around.
 
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Sandvol said:
No she is more than one woman with her own viewpoint. She speaks for many on the left. No, never said conservatives unabashedly support the LV logo and liberals are against it. You are presuming a view for me and then arguing against it. But, political correctness emanates from the left. This is irrefutable.
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She speaks for herself only. As the author of this piece, she is speaking only her opinions.
 
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Sandvol said:
No she is more than one woman with her own viewpoint. She speaks for many on the left. No, never said conservatives unabashedly support the LV logo and liberals are against it. You are presuming a view for me and then arguing against it. But, political correctness emanates from the left. This is irrefutable.
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So you think liberals equate "Lady" with the N word? They won't back women oppressed by mean old chauvinist Hart?
 
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