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[BowlBrother85]

Here is an example of how I believe Trump operates. It's a business tactic that many use. I will give you an example.

He wants the blame for any future deaths or illnesses to complete fall on someone else.

He knows that the economy is going to hit a no return point and that May is very close to the tipping point.

He knows the economy is what many vote on.

He wants to open the economy may 1st but any illness that happens in a state will fall on him.

He then makes an absurd claim he knows the media will bite on. He states that he will force the governors to reopen.

The media bite. The liberals bite. No, no, no orange man the libs will say you cant do that. State rights.

He has now pigeon holed them.

May 1st he allows the governors to reopen if THEY feel they should.

Now, any governor who doesn't their states economy is on them. Any governor who does open the illness is on them.

Illness happens or economy gets worse, either way it's on the governor's.

Media now loses it cause illnesses go up in certain states. He pulls all the comments via a tweet where the media and the governors said it was states right issue.

Economy does begin to get better and anything bad that does occur falls on the governors and not him such as NYC not opening abd their economy getting worse.

He then rallies around the governors who do reopen abd point to the stock market bounce and also how their personal state unemployment has dropped.

Media cannot blame him because all his did was give the states the rights and got it off him.

If he never makes this comment the media continues to make it all him. He has now transitioned to making it about the governors.

This is a business tactic that politicians just dont get. He is running rings around them.

Watch the next few weeks...it will all be about governors making the choices.

That sounds better than it actually is in reality... Trump can't make the videos and tweets disappear that showed him downplaying the threat of the coronavirus in February.

 

[volbeast33]

How America feels watching the Trump pressers

That’s awesome

 

[vols40]

It wasn't fine. There was a very clear attempt at voter suppression. Two things from that article make that clear:

1) "Republican state Assembly Speaker Robin Vos and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald's insistence on in-person voting led to long lines in Democratic strongholds like Milwaukee, where the city reduced its planned 180 polling places to just five that were open on election day."

2) "Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee and the Republican Party of Wisconsin, acting on behalf of state legislative leaders, successfully appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court a federal judge's decision to extend the deadline for absentee ballots to be returned. The court ruled that ballots must be postmarked by election day on April 7 -- even though on the morning of the election, local clerks had not even mailed ballots to more than 11,000 people who had requested them on time."

These sort of actions can lead to a backlash when the objective is this obvious. Republicans wanted to make it as hard as possible for people in Milwaukee to vote... and they still lost an election in a battleground state.

And why did a blue (lol) state not mail ballots sooner? Is this SOP in Wisconsin?

 

[NEO]

Again, closing, or partially closing interstates would have been in his power. Others say he could have declared martial law, and then I guess he could cancel it. But he still couldn't order the states to abandon their health and safety measures.

He's just been on an ego trip, and trying to backtrack while still pretending he has the power. If he wants to continue claiming "absolute authority", he should expect the "fake news" to keep asking him where he gets this authority.

You got sucked in didnt you?

Lol.


See you in may when he hands it completely off to the governors to decide.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Why did the governor cancel the election so late. Did Corona Virus just show up in Wisconsin last week? Nice try bb but once again WRONG as usual.

There is no reason, under the circumstances, to not allow those absentee ballots which had not been sent yet, to be counted. The only reason is that the Republican strategy was to suppress the vote.

 

[Stew Cook]

You never answer anyone's post. You just ramble like a middle school hall monitor.

No charge for that swing and a miss tip I gave you. I'm generous like that

You're hilarious. I'll ask you again, the question you tried to deflect in many directions, thinking no one would notice. Has there been verified cases of voter suppression? Does what I describe in NC qualify as such an instance?

 

[volfanjustin]

Again, closing, or partially closing interstates would have been in his power. Others say he could have declared martial law, and then I guess he could cancel it. But he still couldn't order the states to abandon their health and safety measures.

He's just been on an ego trip, and trying to backtrack while still pretending he has the power. If he wants to continue claiming "absolute authority", he should expect the "fake news" to keep asking him where he gets this authority.

Your side demanded he take over just a couple of weeks ago, now you socialists are whining he wants to take over

 

[vols40]

That sounds Trump better than it actually is in reality... Trump can't make the videos and tweets disappear that showed him downplaying the threat of the coronavirus in February.

Nor can the media or anyone else the refused to give a dissenting opinion. Dr Fauci included. Who says the President was on board the first time mitigation system was brought to him.

 

[NEO]

That sounds Trump better than it actually is in reality... Trump can't make the videos and tweets disappear that showed him downplaying the threat of the coronavirus in February.

You mean a non scientist down playing something he was told was no big deal by the WHO?

Imagine that?

A guy with no science background trusting the scientist were suppose to be honest and tell the truth who said it was no big deal.

Once the CDC realized the WHO was lying and they said shut it down he immediately shut down...cause again, he isn't a scientist.

 

[BowlBrother85]

And why did a blue (lol) state not mail ballots sooner? Is this SOP in Wisconsin?

Trump won Wisconsin in 2016, and they just voted out a very conservative Governor named Scott Walker. Calling that a blue state is kind of weak... It's "purple"... but it doesn't look like Trump is going to win it.

 

[vols40]

Again, closing, or partially closing interstates would have been in his power. Others say he could have declared martial law, and then I guess he could cancel it. But he still couldn't order the states to abandon their health and safety measures.

He's just been on an ego trip, and trying to backtrack while still pretending he has the power. If he wants to continue claiming "absolute authority", he should expect the "fake news" to keep asking him where he gets his authority.



You're hilarious. I'll ask you again, the question you tried to deflect in many directions, thinking no one would notice. Has there been verified cases of voter suppression? Does what I describe in NC qualify as such an instance?

Lol. Maybe voters in California so have a verified address as the local dog park. Swing and a miss!

 

[BowlBrother85]

You mean a non scientist down playing something he was told was no big deal by the WHO?

Imagine that?

A guy with no science background trusting the scientist were suppose to be honest and tell the truth.

Once the CDC realized the WHO was lying and they said shut it down he immediately shut down...cause again, he isn't a scientist.

You mean he is not an expert? He said he was.

 

[DynaLo]

Here is an example of how I believe Trump operates. It's a business tactic that many use. I will give you an example.

He wants the blame for any future deaths or illnesses to complete fall on someone else.

He knows that the economy is going to hit a no return point and that May is very close to the tipping point.

He knows the economy is what many vote on.

He wants to open the economy may 1st but any illness that happens in a state will fall on him.

He then makes an absurd claim he knows the media will bite on. He states that he will force the governors to reopen.

The media bite. The liberals bite. No, no, no orange man the libs will say you cant do that. State rights.

He has now pigeon holed them.

May 1st he allows the governors to reopen if THEY feel they should.

Now, any governor who doesn't their states economy is on them. Any governor who does open the illness is on them.

Illness happens or economy gets worse, either way it's on the governor's.

Media now loses it cause illnesses go up in certain states. He pulls all the comments via a tweet where the media and the governors said it was states right issue.

Economy does begin to get better and anything bad that does occur falls on the governors and not him such as NYC not opening abd their economy getting worse.

He then rallies around the governors who do reopen abd point to the stock market bounce and also how their personal state unemployment has dropped.

Media cannot blame him because all his did was give the states the rights and got it off him.

If he never makes this comment the media continues to make it all him. He has now transitioned to making it about the governors.

This is a business tactic that politicians just dont get. He is running rings around them.

Watch the next few weeks...it will all be about governors making the choices.

Even funnier since it’s not the first time he’s done this quasi version of reverse psychology. One would think the Dems would have taken the time to read the book on him where it’s all laid out, but they hate him so much they can’t stomach reading it

 

[BeecherVol]

Again, closing, or partially closing interstates would have been in his power. Others say he could have declared martial law, and then I guess he could cancel it. But he still couldn't order the states to abandon their health and safety measures.

He's just been on an ego trip, and trying to backtrack while still pretending he has the power. If he wants to continue claiming "absolute authority", he should expect the "fake news" to keep asking him where he gets this authority.

So he couldnt have issued a "stay at home" nationally similar to what many states have done. Essential workers only, essential travel (grocery, pharmacy....) so on and so forth because he lacks the same authority needed now to open it back up.

 

[Mick]

Lol. Maybe voters in California so have a verified address as the local dog park. Swing and a miss!

Not only did you miss, you fell on your a$$ with that response. You''re a credit to the team.

 

[Stew Cook]

You got sucked in didnt you?

Lol.


See you in may when he hands it completely off to the governors to decide.

What's there to hand off? He's had his Republican Governor monkeys trying to figure out how to accommodate , so he can do his maters class on passing the buck? Like nobody will remember that he wanted to "open it up" on May Day, and "pack the churches" on Easter.


but If you say so.

 

[vols40]

Trump won Wisconsin in 2016, and they just voted out a very conservative Governor named Scott Walker. Calling that a blue state is kind of weak... It's "purple"... but it doesn't look like Trump is going to win it.

You have lost your mind. There's zero chance O'Biden is elected. Please do yourself a favor take a couple days maybe a week and go back through your post history and see how wrong you are about everything. I mean everything

 

[NEO]

You mean he is not an expert? He said he was.

So that's all you got at this point?

Him saying he understands viruses.

Hold onto to that info. It's a diamond I tell you.

 

[Stew Cook]

So he couldnt have issued a "stay at home" nationally similar to what many states have done. Essential workers only, essential travel (grocery, pharmacy....) so on and so forth.

He was too chickensh!t to even suggest it was the smart thing to do, until late in the game. Backing up the governors choices shouldn't have taken as long as it did.

If he wants to pretend that he is omnipotent, at least he should say something somewhat helpful, more often than not.

 

[NEO]

What's there to hand off? He's had his Republican Governor monkeys trying to figure out how to accommodate , so he can do his maters class on passing the buck? Like nobody will remember that he wanted to "open it up" on May Day, and "pack the churches" on Easter.


but If you say so.

So wanted and did are the same thing now?

DID he???

 

[BowlBrother85]

You have lost your mind. There's zero chance O'Biden is elected. Please do yourself a favor take a couple days maybe a week and go back through your post history and see how wrong you are about everything. I mean everything

Per Real Clear Politics, Biden leads Trump head to head in Wisconsin, Florida and Pennsylvania. Biden also holds the lead in the general election by 6 points. And as for my post history, I responded to many posts over the last year which said that Joe Biden would not be the Democratic Party nominee for President... and I always said that they wrong and Biden would win the nomination. So, I'm not always wrong, am I?

...and good luck winning an election with an unemployment rate over 10%. That just doesn't happen.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Per Real Clear Politics, Biden leads Trump head to head in Wisconsin, Florida and Pennsylvania. Biden also holds the lead in the general election by 6 points. And as for my post history, I responded to many posts over the last year which said that Joe Biden would not be the Democratic Party nominee for President... and I always said that they wrong and Biden would win the nomination. So, I'm not always wrong, am I?

...and good luck winning an election with an unemployment rate over 10%. That just doesn't happen.

Vegas says Trump. Vegas is usually right.

 

[NEO]

Per Real Clear Politics, Biden leads Trump head to head in Wisconsin, Florida and Pennsylvania. Biden also holds the lead in the general election by 6 points. And as for my post history, I responded to many posts over the last year which said that Joe Biden would not be the Democratic Party nominee for President... and I always said that they wrong and Biden would win the nomination. So, I'm not always wrong, am I?

...and good luck winning an election with an unemployment rate over 10%. That just doesn't happen.

Lmfao.

The polls?

You are actually going to use polling data in a thread about President trump handling of covid 19?

You do get that based on ALL polling on 2016 this thread shouldn't even have Trumps name it.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Vegas says Trump. Vegas is usually right.

Vegas doesn't pick winners. Vegas is never right or wrong. They place a line where it will encourage an equal amount of wagers to both sides.

 

[1972 Grad]

Trump won Wisconsin in 2016, and they just voted out a very conservative Governor named Scott Walker. Calling that a blue state is kind of weak... It's "purple"... but it doesn't look like Trump is going to win it.

Walker won 3 elections (1 a recall election) and was running a 4th time. They got tired of him.