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titansvolsfaninga said:
Does anyone see a problem with this?
Trump administration pays bankrupt firm with no employees $55 million for N95 masks

"The FEMA contract pays Panthera about $5.50 per mask, while established suppliers such as 3M charge about $0.63 per mask, the Post reports. "
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This has yuge week for libs dropping the big government cards. This virus will not stop in it's changing of everything the way we know it.

Libs chastising people for spending money unnecessarily. Rich I tell you RICH
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Yeah thats a problem. Blame the government contracting process. Wanna take it a step further? Blame the uneducated affirmative action hires that proliferate HR and contracting in the government.

I've worked in civil service or the military under 4 presidents, this happens all the time. For example, I can't just go to Staples and buy desks for my employees, desks that are adequate and relatively inexpensive. Nope. I have to go through GSA and spend a fortune on stuff literally made by federal prisoners.
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When I was purchasing in my time in the military, it was crazy the time you had to buy from a minority or woman owned company first at many times the amount you could save from just some local company.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Now how the hell do you figure that. Let's say one person contracted it from someone from an airport, who was already recovering from the flu, and that person died when they caught COVID, and otherwise would have lived.

You can say I'm giving an extreme scenario, but Trumps claims of millions of lives saved because of shutdown measures must really be off base.
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He's as off-base as everyone who used the original Imperial model. It predicted up to 2.2 million without strong mitigation efforts.
 
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evillawyer said:
I'm not saying he's a Nazi, but the Nazis are saying he's a Nazi (or they at least think he's sympathetic to/advances their cause). Otherwise, they wouldn't support him.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why that latch onto him but that's not Trumps fault. Those are low life pieces of sh!t and there is absolutely no room in this country for that ignorance
 
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hog88 said:
I don't think many if any lives were saved by his air travel shutdowns. The virus was here, it was spreading and the end results shutdown or not would be similar.
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I think it's true that had he done the travel restrictions earlier it would have been more beneficial. Not knowing how many people were infected allows statements like yours to be mostly true but I also contend without any way of numbers to back it up that restricting travel and the time it bought us did save lives. Mostly through educating the public. Interesting take though.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
no one knows, we can only assume because the month of February was spent on vacation or something like that. We do know that he played golf as the pandemic spread across America. View attachment 272060
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What a coincidence; I'm always willing to help out an intellectually curious person such as yourself:

TIMELINE: The Trump Administration's Decisive Actions To Combat the Coronavirus Pandemic
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BY MATT MARGOLIS MARCH 19, 2020

It’s hard to imagine that there would be such a concerted effort to undermine the public’s faith in the federal government’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, but sadly, this is how things are now. The election is eight months away, and past attempts to doom Trump’s presidency have failed. Without a doubt, Democrats' allies in the media see the coronavirus pandemic as their newest chance to ensure his defeat in November.

The liberal media digs up various “experts” to trash him. Democrats, including presidential candidates, repeat lies about the Trump administration’s response, and you can’t go anywhere on social media without seeing liberal minions regurgitating disinformation or just by default trashing anything the administration does.

But, the truth of the Trump administration's response is far different from the picture they’re trying to paint. When the World Health Organization was first alerted to the virus, Democrats were in the middle of their impeachment witch hunt, but Trump was taking action immediately to protect Americans. Most of these actions probably went unnoticed because of the media's and Democrats' obsession with impeachment. The Trump campaign posted a timeline of events relating to the coronavirus that shows definitively how the Trump administration has been taking charge of the situation from the earliest days through the present, which I will post below:

?? THREAD: President @realDonaldTrump took decisive action from the beginning to protect Americans from the Chinese coronavirus.

While Democrats & the media were obsessed with impeachment, President Trump was focused on Americans' health.

Check out the timeline:
— Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) March 19, 2020​
December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.

January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.
January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.
January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.
January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.
January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.
January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.
January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.
January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the president.
January 31: The Trump Administration:
  • Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
  • Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
    Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.
February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.
February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.
February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.
February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.
February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.
February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.
February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.
February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.
February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.
February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.
February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.
February 29: The Trump administration:
  • Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
  • Barred all travel to Iran.
  • Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.

March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”
March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth-quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.
March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of $500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.
March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.
March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.
The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions.
March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus.
March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.
March 11: President Trump:
  • Announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days.
  • Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on Congress to increase this fund by $50 billion.
Directed the Treasury Department to defer tax payments for affected individuals & businesses, & provide $200 billion in “additional liquidity.”Met with American bankers at the White House to discuss coronavirus.

March 13: President Trump declared a national emergency in order to access $42 billion in existing funds to combat the coronavirus.
March 13: President Trump announced:
  • Public-private partnerships to open up drive-through testing collection sites.
  • A pause on interest payments on federal student loans.
  • An order to the Department of Energy to purchase oil for the strategic petroleum reserve.

    March 13: The Food & Drug Administration:
  • Granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits.
Issued an emergency approval to Thermo Fisher for a coronavirus test within 24 hours of receiving the request.

March 13: HHS announced funding for the development of two new rapid diagnostic tests, which would be able to detect coronavirus in approximately 1 hour.
March 14: The Coronavirus Relief Bill passed the House of Representatives.
March 14: The Trump Administration announced the European travel ban will extend to the UK and Ireland.
March 15: President Trump held a phone call with over two dozen grocery store executives to discuss the on-going demand for food and other supplies.
March 15: HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week.
March 15: Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources.
March 15: All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus.
March 16: President Trump:
  • Held a teleconference with governors to discuss coronavirus preparedness and response.
  • Participated in a call with G7 leaders who committed to increasing coordination in response to the coronavirus and restoring global economic confidence.
    Announced that the first potential vaccine for coronavirus has entered a phase one trial in a record amount of time.
  • Announced “15 days to slow the spread” coronavirus guidance.

    March 16: The FDA announced it was empowering states to authorize tests developed and used by labs in their states.
March 16: Asst. Secretary for Health confirmed the availability of 1 million coronavirus tests and projected 2 million tests available the next week and 5 million the following.
March 17: President Trump announced:
  • CMS will expand telehealth benefits for Medicare beneficiaries.
  • Relevant Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act penalties will not be enforced.
    The Army Corps of Engineers is on ”standby” to assist federal & state governments.

March 17: President Trump spoke to fast food executives from Wendy’s, McDonald’s, and Burger King to discuss drive-thru services recommended by CDC.
March 17: President Trump met with tourism industry representatives along with industrial supply, retail, and wholesale representatives.
March 17: Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin met with lawmakers to discuss stimulus measures to relieve the economic burden of coronavirus on certain industries, businesses, and American workers.
March 17: Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced a partnership between USDA, Baylor University, McLane Global, and Pepsi Co. to provide one million meals per weak to rural children in response to widespread school closures.
March 17: The Treasury Department:
  • Contributed $10 billion through the economic stabilization fund to the Federal Reserve’s commercial paper funding facility.
  • Deferred $300 billion in tax payments for 90 days without penalty, up to $1 million for individuals & $10 million for business.



    March 17: The Department of Defense announced it will make available to HHS up to five million respirator masks and 2,000 ventilators.
March 18: President Trump announced:
  • Temporary closure of the U.S.-Canada border to non-essential traffic.
  • Plans to invoke the Defense Production Act in order to increase the number of necessary supplies needed to combat coronavirus.
  • FEMA has been activated in every region at its highest level of response.
    The U.S. Navy will deploy USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy hospital ships.
  • All foreclosures and evictions will be suspended for a period of time.

    March 18: Secretary of Defense Mark Esper confirmed:
  • 1 million masks are now immediately available.
  • The Army Corps of Engineers is in NY consulting on how to best assist state officials.

March 18: HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines.
March 18: President Trump spoke to:
  • Doctors, physicians, and nurses on the front lines containing the spread of coronavirus.
  • 130 CEOs of the Business Roundtable to discuss on-going public-private partnerships in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Despite all that the Trump administration has done, there are people who are so consumed with hatred for him that they are either convinced he's done "nothing" or has "botched" the response to the pandemic. It's time for his critics to put politics aside.
TIMELINE: The Trump Administration's Decisive Actions To Combat the Coronavirus Pandemic
 
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Stew Cook said:
Now how the hell do you figure that. Let's say one person contracted it from someone from an airport, who was already recovering from the flu, and that person died when they caught COVID, and otherwise would have lived.

You can say I'm giving an extreme scenario, but Trumps claims of millions of lives saved because of shutdown measures must really be off base.
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Easy. Any scenario under which logic would say that Trump's actions saved lives is due not just full credibility but to be embellished upon and exaggerated; whereas, any theory under which Trump's slow reaction and minimization of the virus for weeks cost lives, well, that's a bunch of left wing media bull crap right there.
 
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volinbham said:
At this point yes to me. It was one day of ranting. He took no action on it and prior to, during and after has said it's a state decision. All his actions have favored states making their own choices.
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So, if he says it again, they you'll condemn it more than just calling it wrong. I only ask because you seem to get irritated when someone brings it up. I just don't see it as something that should be glossed over. It isn't that he has made that suggestion just the one time, after all.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Easy. Any scenario under which logic would say that Trump's actions saved lives is due not just full credibility but to be embellished upon and exaggerated; whereas, any theory under which Trump's slow reaction and minimization of the virus for weeks cost lives, well, that's a bunch of left wing media bull crap right there.
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another fact free analysis.

why not lay it out - what actions were delayed and how did that lead to additional deaths. how many are we talking.
 
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Stew Cook said:
So, if he says it again, they you'll condemn it more than just calling it wrong. I only ask because you seem to get irritated when someone brings it up. I just don't see it as something that should be glossed over. It isn't that he has made that suggestion just the one time, after all.
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i'm not irritated at all when someone brings it up

not sure why you reached that conclusion.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Easy. Any scenario under which logic would say that Trump's actions saved lives is due not just full credibility but to be embellished upon and exaggerated; whereas, any theory under which Trump's slow reaction and minimization of the virus for weeks cost lives, well, that's a bunch of left wing media bull crap right there.
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Well, now it makes more sense. The "he did the best he could do" is equal to "no one could have done better".

I better stop, because I know I'm playing petty politics similar to "Open up America Again", maybe there is room on the stimulus checks to add that in there along with text "TRUMP" to whatever, or whatever is on there.
 
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volinbham said:
another fact free analysis.

why not lay it out - what actions were delayed and how did that lead to additional deaths. how many are we talking.
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He hasnt answered that for awhile. Hes incapable of being a rational adult. Sad, really. Hes worthless to real, legitimate discussion.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Well, now it makes more sense. The "he did the bets he could do" is equal to "no one could have done better".

I better stop, because I know I'm playing petty politics similar to "Open up America Again", maybe there is room on the stimulus checks to add that in there along with text "TRUMP" to whatever, or whatever is on there.
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TRUMP KILLED PEOPLE!
 
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BeecherVol said:
No bigger than the former VP claiming we need a national shutdown.
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It is definitely more of a biggie what a former VP says than what a sitting president says. When Biden says that from behind the presidential seal, I'll be raising the same objection.

But hey, Biden would probably threaten to dismiss Congress to get a new head of Voice of America too, and nobody would make a peep.
 
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evillawyer said:
I'm not saying he's a Nazi, but the Nazis are saying he's a Nazi (or they at least think he's sympathetic to/advances their cause). Otherwise, they wouldn't support him.
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I can play that game. Democrats enjoy the electoral support of communist/socialist groups domestically, and their 'moral support' globally.
I'll compare the Nazi regimes swath of destruction to the commies & socialists any day of the week.
 
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