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If we locked down for 60-90 days, we would just see an uptick on day 91. The ideal that if your lockdown is long enough you’ll see no spike is absurd.
The only point of lockdowns are to give the hospitals a chance to deal with the sick without running out of beds or equipment. If you don't lock down the virus spreads very quickly overwhelming the health care system.
 
I wasn’t scared and went on a trip, now dealing with the consequences. Having to go to the doctor this week to see what the heck is wrong with me. Had active Covid symptoms for two weeks and now 21 days later have elevated heart rate, tinnitus, headaches, and numbness and bizzare feelings of nausea and fatigue. Hope to god I don’t have heart damage and neurological damage from Covid. I’m scared and I’m just sick of hearing my fellow vol fans try to downgrade or outright say this virus is a hoax. I’m 38 years old and healthy with no underlying conditions whatsoever before I contracted Covid. Go Vols.
Praying for a full recovery. Stay strong.
 
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It seemed Cuomo did ok in the spring. I have not kept track since, So IDK. I obviously have strong feelings about the Federal nonresponse.

One thing I read has stuck with me. The response to this serious health threat affecting everyone shows Americans have lost their fear/respect for communicable diseases. That is dangerous. We were lucky for a good run of public health safety (barring HIV). We had some close calls, but they were contained. Scientists and officials worked hard to protect society and now the immunological arms race has gone up a notch.

You lost me at “it seemed Cuomo did ok in the spring”.
 
Your ignorance is breathtaking. I personally know of 3 people under the age of 40 that have died from covid. Several more that almost did and spent a week or more in the hospital. Nevermind all the other more at risk people that asymptomatic carriers will kill. Family and friends all.

Quit spreading lies and educate yourself.



You know more people that have died from covid than I know who have gotten it.
 
He has been the head of NIH for 6 administrations (both republicans and democrats in the executive branch) and you want to denigrate him based on a random photo with his mask off for a few seconds.... everyone can see through your dumba** agenda... maybe you should go pal around with Dr Immanuel... watch out for those sex crazed demons though bro...
Fauci is just a long term Bureaucrat that has coasted on his reputation and not brought any value to his position for several administrations. He has been detrimental to the US in 2020.
 
Ether you are wrong or Facui is wrong. He said he took his mask off to drink water to get hydrated but nobody seen his bottle of water or drink any. His wife was holding hers on her finger. You can defend that fraud all you want but nobody is buying what they are selling anymore
I am buying what they are selling. There's no reason for him to be wearing a mask in that situation. I'm sure he's been tested a ton and knows he isn't sick. Wearing a mask isn't to prevent you from getting sick it's to prevent you from infecting others if you are asymptomatic. Plus he's with people he knows and there's literally Noone else in the stands. This is a non issue and proves absolutely nothing.
 
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If we locked down for 60-90 days, we would just see an uptick on day 91. The ideal that if your lockdown is long enough you’ll see no spike is absurd.

We did stop travel from China early. Give Trump some credit for that. It would have grown much faster & broader. We should have protected and quarantined the elderly & those with health conditions first, not last. Masked up and continued on.
 
I am buying what they are selling. There's no reason for him to be wearing a mask in that situation. I'm sure he's been tested a ton and knows he isn't sick. Wearing a mask isn't to prevent you from getting sick it's to prevent you from infecting others if you are asymptomatic. Plus he's with people he knows and there's literally Noone else in the stands. This is a non issue and proves absolutely nothing.
It is when you come in close contact with others. This picture is just political and I’m anti-Fauci. Same way with the Trump picture a few days ago where he was not wearing a mask.
 
Yes, with CTE the players also had a choice to "just not play" and not risk head injuries. The NFL is still facing CTE lawsuits anyway. I'm saying I could see the same thing happening here, with a league generally charging forward without knowing/doing much investigation into the risks.
Actually the bigger threat to college football will be when the players who did not go to the NFL bring suit against the colleges for CTE. Just due to the numbers that could financially destroy the game. Only 5 percent of college players make it into the NFL. The rest have yet to seek financial compensation.
 
Yet states that didn’t reopen experienced the same spike? Seems the real correlation is geography not policy. Southern states were hit hard because people went inside.

And the only correlation with masks is a negative one. Meaning people who are most likely to wear masks are the ones who live in countries that have been decimated by this. Countries that handled this really well have citizens who have been less likely to wear masks.

So the two main media narratives (this is because people aren’t wearing masks and republicans reopened their states) are both false narratives.
What states are experiencing the same spike which did not reopen?
Your logic is still flawed. What would the statistics have been if masks were not worn? That is a number no one knows.
 
Why they tolerate players dying from other reasons. Like the flu, drunk driving, heat exhaustion, diabetes, heart disease, all those lead covid deaths by a mile. They are 6 x more likely to die of the flu and 10 x more likely to die in trauma than covid
First of all you can't give heart disease or diabetes to someone else. Those are things you do through poor life choises. You kill yourself. Car accidents aren't contagious and also your idea thst you're 6x more likely to die of flu is just not tru

I keep waiting to hear the status of these athletes. They’ve tested “positive”...are they ill? Hospitalized? At home with terrible fevers and body aches? Or literally completely 100% unaware they ever even contracted the virus until they were forced to take a mandatory test? And would otherwise remain entirely unaware and asymptomatic?

If the story is going to be reported, then give the relevant details.
They are most likely just fine right now. Because they are tested daily they caught it very early. The incubation period is 2 weeks. So I guess we will know in 2 weeks.

They aren't contracting it from playing. We're talking about wealthy men here. Sex and partying.
Yes one player contracts the virus from the outside world and then gives it to everyone else in the locker room/dugout. It's like gonorrhea but without all the fun parts.

Exactly what I’ve been saying. Nobody follows up. Ever.
Because of hippa laws MLB isn't releasing the names of the players. The only way you're going to know is when one of them turns up dead.

Just like my school district announced they won't tell the public when kids get the virus.
 
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What states are experiencing the same spike which did not reopen?
Your logic is still flawed. What would the statistics have been if masks were not worn? That is a number no one knows.

California.

And sure, no one knows that. Idk how you think that’s a point in your favor. Here’s what we do know, there’s zero sign that face masks have worked anywhere. If you look at European countries who wear masks the least, you’ll see they have the lowest numbers (Nordic countries for example and Germany). If you look at the ones that got destroyed (Italy and Spain for example) mask wearing is much more common.
 
People can develop decent opinions about human behavior which more times than not is right when you have had nearly 60 years of life experiences.
You took a story about 4 or 5 players and extrapolated it to 600 players. My 54 years life experience says you're full of it and even more so because you're unwilling to admit it
 
California.

And sure, no one knows that. Idk how you think that’s a point in your favor. Here’s what we do know, there’s zero sign that face masks have worked anywhere. If you look at European countries who wear masks the least, you’ll see they have the lowest numbers (Nordic countries for example and Germany). If you look at the ones that got destroyed (Italy and Spain for example) mask wearing is much more common.
Still flawed logic. The countries started wearing masks after they were decimated. The damage had already been done.
 
Fauci is just a long term Bureaucrat that has coasted on his reputation and not brought any value to his position for several administrations. He has been detrimental to the US in 2020.
Completely laughable. And you do realize Dr Fauci is not merely musing about his personal opinions? He is not one physician, but rather a spokesperson for the NIH. I suppose you’d rather just have unfettered 24 hour access to an idiot whose entire administration is antithetical to science or reason tell us we should hold out hope for injecting disinfectants without being challenged on these asinine assertions? Or should we ascribe to the twitter teachings of “doctor” Immanuel since it’s more expedient to your political persuasions?
 
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He rounded up ventilators. Established emergency overflow capacity for hospitals. I bet he made lots of mistakes. Maybe some major ones. It was June before Covid-19 was confirmed to be a circulatory disease. So the earliest patient treatments were more often ineffective. I don't know much about NY since end of April. Been too busy watching my local numbers grow everyday.

I am stating I don't have deep info.
I don’t understand how anyone can say he did anything right in April...roughly 25% of the total deaths come from NY...his nursing home move was essentially murder. Sure, NY has been declining, but it was the state with the highest mountain to begin with. Steadily declining since April, yet no other state is remotely close to their deaths, even after 5 months of this..
 
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