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[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

And the countries not wearing masks were never decimated.

Again not a correlation between wearing or not wearing masks and the effects of COVID on those countries. Too many other factors may play Into those statistics and that information is not known at this time. False assumption on your part.

 

[joevol33]

We had so much fun with subs. We had one that would tell us how the Japs controlled the weather in America with satellites to get us back for WWII. One guy was a Vietnam vet who would jump under the desk if someone slammed a door or dropped a book. Another was brain dead so we harassed her constantly, she made me write down my name to report it to the teacher so I put Peter Warrick.

We had one named Mr Frost. He made his own aftershave, and we'd get him talking about it. He'd spend the rest of the day on that.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Sweden never locked down and never shut down schools.

You know how many people 20 and younger died?

One.

My best friend lives in Stockholm and they are not wearing masks. He was in northern Sweden today in a town and said it was like the virus had been forgotten.

Sweden didn't manage the virus in the nursing homes in the beginning. They have appeared to have fixed fhat. They had zero deaths today.

For the fear mongerers, please research T Cells. It is looking like we would only need 20 percent of the population to contract the virus to achieve herd immunity. EXPERTS have said this. Not all experts are doom and gloom.

We are also getting better and better at treating this thing.

Also, can someone PLEASE. FINALLY answer this question finally? How would players not playing football actually make them safer? Are you suuuree the vast majority won't just continue to hang out as they have done throughout this thing, with all their friends and family regardless as the virus continues to spread? Please answer this. It's been avoided everytime.

 

[Vol8188]

Again not a correlation between wearing or not wearing masks and the effects of COVID on those countries. Too many other factors may play Into those statistics and that information is not known at this time. False assumption on your part.

Lmfao but with reopening there’s 100% a correlation right? It’s not just that they’re all in similar climates, it’s that they reopened too soon even (even though some of them didn’t reopen)

 

[turnuptheVOLtage]

I saw an article the other day where it was recommended that people wear eye goggles or face shields to cover their eyes in addition to the mask.

Once I saw that, I knew it was over.

Moving the goalposts hahaha. Wait until election is over and it will go away

 

[99gator]

Because of hippa laws MLB isn't releasing the names of the players. The only way you're going to know is when one of them turns up dead.

Just like my school district announced they won't tell the public when kids get the virus.

School district is going to have to. They can't tell them who, but they can sure tell them someone tested positive.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Lmfao but with reopening there’s 100% a correlation right? It’s not just that they’re all in similar climates, it’s that they reopened too soon even (even though some of them didn’t reopen)

Reopening as a cause is just my personal opinion or memory of the progression of COVID through the last several months.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Again not a correlation between wearing or not wearing masks and the effects of COVID on those countries. Too many other factors may play Into those statistics and that information is not known at this time. False assumption on your part.

Correlation? Maybe he's using his life experience.

 

[ohhbother]

I keep waiting to hear the status of these athletes. They’ve tested “positive”...are they ill? Hospitalized? At home with terrible fevers and body aches? Or literally completely 100% unaware they ever even contracted the virus until they were forced to take a mandatory test? And would otherwise remain entirely unaware and asymptomatic?

If the story is going to be reported, then give the relevant details.

Here’s one.
https://www.si.com/mlb/2020/08/01/eduardo-rodriguez-red-sox-out-for-season-covid-19-heart-issue

 

[LargeOrange1]

If you saw this morning the Cardinals became the third MLB team to have a large outbreak of Covid in just the FIRST week of MLB starting its abbreviated season. This is obviously not good news seeing that baseball is a non-contact sport where players are naturally "distanced" from one another while on the field.

Couple things being observed that may provide a glimpse into what may happen when football begins.

1. Clearly the issues with baseball have more to do with the dugout/locker room where the virus is going to spread rapidly, rather than players infecting players from the opposing team. So the threat in baseball is more one-dimensional. With football, since its a very close quarters high contact sport, the threat will come from within and from the outside. With 22 players on the field for every play and with over 100 players/personnel/staff along each sideline and in the locker rooms one player who is an asymptomatic carrier can infect a dozen people during a game and those people go on to affect more team mates in the locker rooms. Anyway, this is obvious how things could get so much more out-of-hand in football because of the issue of number of players on a team and extreme close contact.

2. MLB is not taking a "next man up" approach. In other words, if multiple players on a team get infected, they are cancelling/postponing games, not just sticking in backup players and moving on. Which brings up an interesting question. If 10 or 15 players on a team get infected right before a road game, is the opposing team going to let the game happen? Are they going to invite you to come or are they going to force the game to be postponed/cancelled?

3. Baseball has 60 games. Football has 10. So, how many cancellations have to occur before everyone says, "it's no longer worth the risk" and cancelling the rest of the season

Who gives a ratsrectum about MLB?. When they kneeled i was 100% DONE. Same with NBA/NFL.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Correlation? Maybe he's using his life experience.

Not all are creating equal with life experiences and the ability to apply logic.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

That is much more common than you think. I have been teaching in public schools for 15 years. I usually average 100 students per year in middle school; high school about 200 students per year. I figure I have taught roughly 1800 students in those 15 years. I would estimate that 60-70% of those students were obsessed with social media (Instagram, Vine, MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, etc.), well over 90% were obsessed with their phones, I cannot tell you how many parent/teacher conferences I have been involved with were attended by grandparents, and meetings where students openly degraded their parents/guardians. It has gotten progressively worse the last five years or so. Schools are now responsible for providing meals for students to take home on the weekends and during the Summer. Corporal punishment has to be approved by the parent, assuming the school district allows it at all. I can’t tell you how many times I have been cussed out by another student and parents. Coaching provides its own set of headaches, many parents are unbearable over playing time and have to be escorted from games regularly. Many of you are naive as to what happens in schools on a regular basis

What teachers have to put up with in the classroom is directly related to how much a parent appropriately parents their child. School is for education, raising the child to be respectful even in disagreement is on the parents.
I've seen what some of the teachers have gone through with kids whos parents were not engaged with their kids. The kids are belligerent and mouthy. Quite frankly, they didn't have their butts spanked the first time they decided to show their butts at home. Jerking kids back into reality is necessary and quite frankly I just amped up my response until mine got the message. Then we talked about whatever issues they were having.
I was a warm and fuzzy parent to a point but there's a line.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Not all are creating equal with life experiences and the ability to apply logic.

Oh, so you get to make stuff up citing "life experience" but demand logic and facts from those who disagree with you. Gotcha.

 

[The Original Fade]

I’m glad I checked out of this thread a long time ago. Its stunning to read the level of ignorance of the conspiracy crowd.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Completely laughable. And you do realize Dr Fauci is not merely musing about his personal opinions? He is not one physician, but rather a spokesperson for the NIH. I suppose you’d rather just have unfettered 24 hour access to an idiot whose entire administration is antithetical to science or reason tell us we should hold out hope for injecting disinfectants without being challenged on these asinine assertions? Or should we ascribe to the twitter teachings of “doctor” Immanuel since it’s more expedient to your political persuasions?

I stand by my comments. I blame Fauci more than anyone else for his inability to take firm positions in handling this pandemic. He has provided nothing but weak and ineffective leadership. Review my posts the last couple of hours for more points.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Oh, so you get to make stuff up citing "life experience" but demand logic and facts from those who disagree with you. Gotcha.

Not making stuff up, it’s called debating.

 

[Envolronment]

If you saw this morning the Cardinals became the third MLB team to have a large outbreak of Covid in just the FIRST week of MLB starting its abbreviated season. This is obviously not good news seeing that baseball is a non-contact sport where players are naturally "distanced" from one another while on the field.

Couple things being observed that may provide a glimpse into what may happen when football begins.

1. Clearly the issues with baseball have more to do with the dugout/locker room where the virus is going to spread rapidly, rather than players infecting players from the opposing team. So the threat in baseball is more one-dimensional. With football, since its a very close quarters high contact sport, the threat will come from within and from the outside. With 22 players on the field for every play and with over 100 players/personnel/staff along each sideline and in the locker rooms one player who is an asymptomatic carrier can infect a dozen people during a game and those people go on to affect more team mates in the locker rooms. Anyway, this is obvious how things could get so much more out-of-hand in football because of the issue of number of players on a team and extreme close contact.

2. MLB is not taking a "next man up" approach. In other words, if multiple players on a team get infected, they are cancelling/postponing games, not just sticking in backup players and moving on. Which brings up an interesting question. If 10 or 15 players on a team get infected right before a road game, is the opposing team going to let the game happen? Are they going to invite you to come or are they going to force the game to be postponed/cancelled?

3. Baseball has 60 games. Football has 10. So, how many cancellations have to occur before everyone says, "it's no longer worth the risk" and cancelling the rest of the season

I see two things here. The first is that social distancing doesn't work and much of all of the stuff that we're doing is a big waste of time. The second is that there really is very little risk at all. Most of these players are healthy young men who are at virtually no risk at all and the coaching staff knows the risks and are free to accept them or not. Hopefully the opposite effect that you're speaking of will take place and people will start to realize that we need to go on living our lives. In other words, whether we cancel games or not people are still going to get covid and and whether we cancel games or not the mortality rate will still remain very low just like it does with other diseases we live with every single day.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Hopefully by September 26 we will have herd immunity.

For herd immunity to kick in the experts (if there really is such a thing) say that 20% of the population must be exposed to the virus.

20% of the US population is roughly 65MM people, and there are currently right at 4.5MM cases in the US. However, antibody tests are suggesting that the number that have been exposed is 13X that amount. That puts the number exposed at roughly 58.5MM.

Sweden and some other Europeans countries are regretting the herd immunity strategy. It may work if you completely disregard the death toll. Check Fortune.com for the report. I’m not taking a position , just paraphrasing from the article.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Hopefully by September 26 we will have herd immunity.

For herd immunity to kick in the experts (if there really is such a thing) say that 20% of the population must be exposed to the virus.

20% of the US population is roughly 65MM people, and there are currently right at 4.5MM cases in the US. However, antibody tests are suggesting that the number that have been exposed is 13X that amount. That puts the number exposed at roughly 58.5MM.

Sweden and some other Europeans countries are regretting the herd immunity strategy. It may work if you completely disregard the death toll. Check Fortune.com for the report. I’m not taking a position , just paraphrasing from the article.

Hopefully by September 26 we will have herd immunity.

For herd immunity to kick in the experts (if there really is such a thing) say that 20% of the population must be exposed to the virus.

20% of the US population is roughly 65MM people, and there are currently right at 4.5MM cases in the US. However, antibody tests are suggesting that the number that have been exposed is 13X that amount. That puts the number exposed at roughly 58.5MM.

I just read herd immunity levels need to be 70 to 90% and that is with an effective vaccine.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Not making stuff up, it’s called debating.

Taking a story citing several players and saying you know it's really 600 isn't making stuff up? Gimme your "logic" to support going from 4 to 600.

 

[VolFootballIsLife]

I stand by my comments. I blame Fauci more than anyone else for his inability to take firm positions in handling this pandemic. He has provided nothing but weak and ineffective leadership. Review my posts the last couple of hours for more points.

With all due respect isn’t Trump the leader?

 

[Hacksaw]

I’m glad I checked out of this thread a long time ago. Its stunning to read the level of ignorance of the conspiracy crowd.

Congrats on taking the high road!

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

With all due respect isn’t Trump the leader?

Read my other posts this evening on Fauci. Explains everything. His position requires a firm position founded in his expertise regardless of other viewpoints in Government. This is where he has failed us the most.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Taking a story citing several players and saying you know it's really 600 isn't making stuff up? Gimme your "logic" to support going from 4 to 600.

LOL, It’s not a stretch to believe anyone playing a contact sport in the midst of a pandemic would have deep concerns about catching the virus themselves. Duh !

Now I know , your post was blue font, right? Good one !

 

[VOLnVANDYland]

I stand by my comments. I blame Fauci more than anyone else for his inability to take firm positions in handling this pandemic. He has provided nothing but weak and ineffective leadership. Review my posts the last couple of hours for more points.

No thanks, I’ll pass