Let’s talk about Will Brooks

[walkenvol]

Where all you Negas that trashed Brooks in this thread now that his 85yard pick six blew the game wide open last night??? I was there and loved it btw.

Where yall Negas saying Banks is no good ? Our defense hasnt surrendered a TD in 3 plus games. Nico has scored more points AGAINST UT than the defense has allowed in the last 3 games.

Bunch of posters in this thread looking really damn stupid right now for trashing Brooks, Banks, Martinez, and our defense. Brooks in particular blew that game WIDE open. NCSU was down what 10-3 and in our redzone...that HUGE pick six flipped it from likely 10-6 or 10-10 to instead 17-3 VOLS and the rout was on. I lost my voice in the 3rd quarter, but my NCSU grad little brother sitting next to me screamed " that was a backbreaker" when Brooks ran past us for that TD. Game. Over.

Don’t forget, Brooks led the team in tackles last week.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Maybe this camera angle will help, as this is the one I had referenced in a previous comment that showed a better view of the play.

The "immense" pressure was one d-lineman who was still 3 yards away. And the "deep support" couldn't be seen from the other camera angle because the other safety was at least 10 - 15 yards away.

I am not taking anything away from Will Brooks' interception, I'm simply trying to point out that if the QB had decided to throw to the other receiver he had an untouched path to the endzone.



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If he holds the ball he is sacked. He had to throw the ball. He did not have time to do that. You all kill me and act as if you want our dbs to be aggressive. Yet then say they don't turn their heads or have poor technique. This was a picture perfect play as to putting a qb in a position to make a bad play. 19 had a free run to the qb, pressure and had spacing enough to cause a bad throw and Brooks is where he is supposed to be to clean up the play or get a turnover.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

If he holds the ball he is sacked. He had to throw the ball. He did not have time to do that. You all kill me and act as if you want our dbs to be aggressive. Yet then say they don't turn their heads or have poor technique. This was a picture perfect play as to putting a qb in a position to make a bad play. 19 had a free run to the qb, pressure and had spacing enough to cause a bad throw and Brooks is where he is supposed to be to clean up the play or get a turnover.

This video game analysis was posted in the recruiting football talk thread. His take on the play in question starts at the 5:33 mark. His comment... "Tennessee gets lucky." If you disagree with my perspective perhaps you can take it up with him. I'm finished discussing it... Go Vols!

 

[FLVOL_79]

Exactly. He was HIM yesterday. Broke their backs man. Don't know if you were there bro, but that TD opened the floodgates. Totally deflated their offense, totally pumped our VOLS up til they were a pack rabid dogs.



I am gonna rewatch the game today. I couldnt tell from the stands yesterday who forced and recovered those fumbles etc. Same for some of the plays on offense when they were on the far end of the field. Just too far away to tell...my vision may have been a little blurry as well though in all honesty. Haha. GO VOLS

Sadly no I was in Atlanta. BUT I could almost metaphorically hear the lamentation of their team and fanbase after that TD.

 

[BigALWiLson]

This video game analysis was posted in the recruiting football talk thread. His take on the play in question starts at the 5:33 mark. His comment... "Tennessee gets lucky." If you disagree with my perspective perhaps you can take it up with him. I'm finished discussing it... Go Vols!

All I can tell you is be in the qb shoes and see what decision you make when it's live bullets running 1000. He had to dump the ball. Hell he had to jump pass the ball he did throw. Sure you say 3 yds between the defender and him which is probably a single step and a reach. If he throws to either the rb or wr in the flat it is picked off. That was the design of the play. If another safety or whoever didn't cover the ez that's another discussion but Brooks is where he was supposed to be. Idgaf what some internet guy that does a few analysts thinks. Do you not think McCall as good as he has been prior would have atleast looked there if he had time to do that ?

 

[butchna]

Predicted Kitselman was signed for more than depth and wouldn’t sit on the bench. Predicted nothing beyond that. I saw a blocker with size and most likely unrealized skills who left Bama for a bigger role.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

All I can tell you is be in the qb shoes and see what decision you make when it's live bullets running 1000. He had to dump the ball. Hell he had to jump pass the ball he did throw. Sure you say 3 yds between the defender and him which is probably a single step and a reach. If he throws to either the rb or wr in the flat it is picked off. That was the design of the play. If another safety or whoever didn't cover the ez that's another discussion but Brooks is where he was supposed to be. Idgaf what some internet guy that does a few analysts thinks. Do you not think McCall as good as he has been prior would have atleast looked there if he had time to do that ?

Point 1: He wouldn't have had to jump pass the ball if he'd thrown to the other receiver.

Point 2: If our d-lineman can cover 9 ft with a sing step and reach, then he needs to be playing basketball.

And Point 3: You talking about this guy???

 

[EastTNVol6240]

Where all you Negas that trashed Brooks in this thread now that his 85yard pick six blew the game wide open last night??? I was there and loved it btw.

Where yall Negas saying Banks is no good ? Our defense hasnt surrendered a TD in 3 plus games. Nico has scored more points AGAINST UT than the defense has allowed in the last 3 games.

Bunch of posters in this thread looking really damn stupid right now for trashing Brooks, Banks, Martinez, and our defense. Brooks in particular blew that game WIDE open. NCSU was down what 10-3 and in our redzone...that HUGE pick six flipped it from likely 10-6 or 10-10 to instead 17-3 VOLS and the rout was on. I lost my voice in the 3rd quarter, but my NCSU grad little brother sitting next to me screamed " that was a backbreaker" when Brooks ran past us for that TD. Game. Over.

Look at you joining the Negas. “Nico has scored more against us than other offenses.” Clown.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Maybe this camera angle will help, as this is the one I had referenced in a previous comment that showed a better view of the play.

The "immense" pressure was one d-lineman who was still 3 yards away. And the "deep support" couldn't be seen from the other camera angle because the other safety was at least 10 - 15 yards away.

I am not taking anything away from Will Brooks' interception, I'm simply trying to point out that if the QB had decided to throw to the other receiver he had an untouched path to the endzone.



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I saw that, and let out a deep breath because I knew we had dodged a bullet.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Point 1: He wouldn't have had to jump pass the ball if he'd thrown to the other receiver.

Point 2: If our d-lineman can cover 9 ft with a sing step and reach, then he needs to be playing basketball.

And Point 3: You talking about this guy???


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1. His feet and foundation as he is rolling to his right are not there.
2. 6'5 240 ish lbs closing fast 1 stride is covering a yard plus 3 ft arms you do the math. He literally had about about 3 or 4 tenths of a second to get his feet set and thrown the ball accurately to the streak. In which the analyst said you never throw the go on this.
3. Check out McCall career vs a game or two. He isn't a bad QB.

 

[LeannaVol]

I think we could probably freeze frame 75% of offensive plays and see a cut a running back could make or see a receiver coming open downfield and say, they should have done that. The reality is qb’s and running backs have tenths of seconds to react. Once a qb is on the move, it is even harder to see those opportunities.

 

[thunder5]

Man…that was a real lunch pail effort on his part last night

 

[BACKDOC]

Pruitt is the gift that keeps on giving; he brought in Hooker, 2 star Cedric Tillman, and Will Brooks as a preferred walkon from Bama.

 

[LittleVol]

Maybe this camera angle will help, as this is the one I had referenced in a previous comment that showed a better view of the play.

The "immense" pressure was one d-lineman who was still 3 yards away. And the "deep support" couldn't be seen from the other camera angle because the other safety was at least 10 - 15 yards away.

I am not taking anything away from Will Brooks' interception, I'm simply trying to point out that if the QB had decided to throw to the other receiver he had an untouched path to the endzone.



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Much better angle.

- The defender as you said was 3 yards away. Clear from that shot.
- Why does a QB need 1.5 seconds minimum to throw a football? Because of getting his OWN body in position to throw an accurate pass…
3 yards is not enough distance to properly go through the body mechanics before getting sacked.

- he literally was just throwing it OUT OF IMMENSE pressure. So let’s say he does see that deeper WR. And LOFTS it to get it deeper. You don’t think Turrentine can cover 15 yards in 2 seconds ? He was already heading in that direction. And the ball was a floater…

- Will Brooks knew all of what I’m saying and could see the QB was just trying throwing a high prayer…(WHICH IS WHY HE LET THE WR GO)

Football is game of inches and decisions are made at milliseconds speed.

It wasn’t a blown coverage.
It was an instinctive player making a decision and choosing right.

 

[LittleVol]

Man…that was a real lunch pail effort on his part last night

Yup.

As I was watching him strut down the sideline…I was just thinking internally, “This dude just wants it!”

 

[CincinnatiVols]

You're all seeing something different than I am... he was wide open running torward the endzone, with the ball still in the QB's hands.

Yeah there is a middle safety who starts slightly to the wide side of the field but rotates to middle 3rd, and then you can tell the corner is getting depth because he is responsible for his deep third, I'm assuming the Middle safety was responsible to pick up that seem route. We used to call that coverage cover 3 sky, the alternative would be both safeties taking deep third with the strong side corner sitting in the flat we called that cover 3 roll. These are looks where you show cover 2 but then play cover 3

 

[pimo1]

Ah yes the ever so weary STAR wars. My HOPE as a vol fan is as he completes his college career he is one of the low star guys that passed the MAJORITY of the 4 star guys in his class and gets dollars instead. It happens a lot.

ON3 data for ease…… 24 draft

5 star 14 at 43.8%
4 star 81 at 22%
3 star 131 at 6.5%
2star 31 at 4%

More exceptions than the rule. Playing a guy after several years of growth, training table, weight room, and on field experience is not the same as taking a shot at the end of HS career, maybe before first shave.

Of course the data is skewed some by the fact each year the no brainers from the JR class get drafted, and some 5th year guys too. But that rolls forward year to year.

Bottom line, I hope THIS PLAYER is one of the draft worthy lower star guys. That should make him NOT a liability. TBD of course.

just FYI not sure what those percentages are but they don't match those numbers. I would guess its the percentage of those people that make it aka 43% of 5 Stars make it in draft but only 6.5% of 3 stars.. which would make sense... But the way its posted (without that context) makes it look as if 43.8% of drafted players are 5 stars.. when in fact more 2 stars get drafted than 5 stars. But yeah most of the NFL is 3 former stars.

 

[red butler]

This video game analysis was posted in the recruiting football talk thread. His take on the play in question starts at the 5:33 mark. His comment... "Tennessee gets lucky." If you disagree with my perspective perhaps you can take it up with him. I'm finished discussing it... Go Vols!

To me, it looked like we were in cover 3 and Brooks had responsibility for the curl/flat. So he was right where he was supposed to be. Maybe the lucky comment was because the QB didn’t throw the seam. Of course, to throw the seam you have to be on time and have a strong arm or you’re in trouble.

My expertise comes from playing years of Madden though so take it for what that’s worth

 

[1vol]

What is our scholarship situation? If we have one available he deserves to finish the year on one

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

What is our scholarship situation? If we have one available he deserves to finish the year on one

If not I bet he would be happy with an NIL equivalent, maybe from a safety equipment company.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

What is our scholarship situation? If we have one available he deserves to finish the year on one

Absolutely deserves a scholarship

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

just FYI not sure what those percentages are but they don't match those numbers. I would guess its the percentage of those people that make it aka 43% of 5 Stars make it in draft but only 6.5% of 3 stars.. which would make sense... But the way its posted (without that context) makes it look as if 43.8% of drafted players are 5 stars.. when in fact more 2 stars get drafted than 5 stars. But yeah most of the NFL is 3 former stars.

Don’t give a hoot about 3 star percentages, counting all billion of them in any calculation is bogus. Only use 3 stars with multiple p4/5 and g5 visits and see what you get. All the 3 stars that get attention after SO seasons and sit there are not valid, bet you don’t see a bunch of those guys get cut back to 2 stars. Bad look for the services. So using the total in the calculations is fuzzy math.

 

[pimo1]

Don’t give a hoot about 3 star percentages, counting all billion of them in any calculation is bogus. Only use 3 stars with multiple p4/5 and g5 visits and see what you get. All the 3 stars that get attention after SO seasons and sit there are not valid, bet you don’t see a bunch of those guys get cut back to 2 stars. Bad look for the services. So using the total in the calculations is fuzzy math.

I have no idea what you are arguing lol.. Maybe read my post again?

 

[#1n51&98]

One third of the way through the regular season , Mr Brooks is third on the team in tackles , behind only Pili and Carter . And has a game changing pick six on his resume. I think the young man is not only legit , he is a team leader !

 

[strkr]

One third of the way through the regular season , Mr Brooks is third on the team in tackles , behind only Pili and Carter . And has a game changing pick six on his resume. I think the young man is not only legit , he is a team leader !

It takes players of all kinds to contribute and play a role. He has done very well.