liberals are children.

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#52
IPorange said:
There may not be. I'm just pointing out that not all liberals/conservatives fit an archetype, which is what you insinuated.
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There are two main types of liberals. When I say liberal, I also don't mean middle of the road people. I mean far left Obama types.

The first type has no money and either does not have a job or makes very little. They view the rich (anyone making more than them) as a group that owes them some of that money. They feel they got a raw deal in life and should be allowed to live the same life as the "rich" guy.

The second type is the George Soros type. They are so wealthy that they cannot be touched by the government or taxation and over the top regulations actually helps them because it kills an equal playing field. They also know that even in a communist country there is a small group that still runs things and live in the lap of luxury. They realize they will be part of this group and feel they're decisions should impact others decisions.

Those are the two main groups. The ones who feel they got screwed and deserve the rich guys money and the over the top rich guy who wants to kill the equal playing field.
 
#53
#53
NEOCON said:
There are two main types of liberals. When I say liberal, I also don't mean middle of the road people. I mean far left Obama types.

The first type has no money and either does not have a job or makes very little. They view the rich (anyone making more than them) as a group that owes them some of that money. They feel they got a raw deal in life and should be allowed to live the same life as the "rich" guy.

The second type is the George Soros type. They are so wealthy that they cannot be touched by the government or taxation and over the top regulations actually helps them because it kills an equal playing field. They also know that even in a communist country there is a small group that still runs things and live in the lap of luxury. They realize they will be part of this group and feel they're decisions should impact others decisions.

Those are the two main groups. The ones who feel they got screwed and deserve the rich guys money and the over the top rich guy who wants to kill the equal playing field.
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Way off.
 
#54
#54
NEOCON said:
There are two main types of liberals. When I say liberal, I also don't mean middle of the road people. I mean far left Obama types.

The first type has no money and either does not have a job or makes very little. They view the rich (anyone making more than them) as a group that owes them some of that money. They feel they got a raw deal in life and should be allowed to live the same life as the "rich" guy.

The second type is the George Soros type. They are so wealthy that they cannot be touched by the government or taxation and over the top regulations actually helps them because it kills an equal playing field. They also know that even in a communist country there is a small group that still runs things and live in the lap of luxury. They realize they will be part of this group and feel they're decisions should impact others decisions.

Those are the two main groups. The ones who feel they got screwed and deserve the rich guys money and the over the top rich guy who wants to kill the equal playing field.
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right on.
 
#55
#55
NEOCON said:
There are two main types of liberals. When I say liberal, I also don't mean middle of the road people. I mean far left Obama types.

The first type has no money and either does not have a job or makes very little. They view the rich (anyone making more than them) as a group that owes them some of that money. They feel they got a raw deal in life and should be allowed to live the same life as the "rich" guy.

The second type is the George Soros type. They are so wealthy that they cannot be touched by the government or taxation and over the top regulations actually helps them because it kills an equal playing field. They also know that even in a communist country there is a small group that still runs things and live in the lap of luxury. They realize they will be part of this group and feel they're decisions should impact others decisions.

Those are the two main groups. The ones who feel they got screwed and deserve the rich guys money and the over the top rich guy who wants to kill the equal playing field.
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Broad, sweeping generalizations. Do you believe these generalizations help bring people to the table to discuss ideas?
 
#58
#58
NEOCON said:
There are two main types of liberals. When I say liberal, I also don't mean middle of the road people. I mean far left Obama types.

The first type has no money and either does not have a job or makes very little. They view the rich (anyone making more than them) as a group that owes them some of that money. They feel they got a raw deal in life and should be allowed to live the same life as the "rich" guy.

The second type is the George Soros type. They are so wealthy that they cannot be touched by the government or taxation and over the top regulations actually helps them because it kills an equal playing field. They also know that even in a communist country there is a small group that still runs things and live in the lap of luxury. They realize they will be part of this group and feel they're decisions should impact others decisions.

Those are the two main groups. The ones who feel they got screwed and deserve the rich guys money and the over the top rich guy who wants to kill the equal playing field.
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I'm neither one of these so I know your wrong. Admitting am liberal on this board=death sentence but oh well.
 
#59
#59
mreed90 said:
I'm neither one of these so I know your wrong. Admitting am liberal on this board=death sentence but oh well.
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It's spreading... slowly the liberals are coming out. I, for one, welcome you.
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#60
#60
In this thread, VN politicos attempt to argue that there is actually some kind of substantive difference between left-wing and right-wing cry-babyism.

Get it through your heads people. Your "side" isn't innocent.
 
#62
#62
emainvol said:
In this thread, VN politicos attempt to argue that there is actually some kind of substantive difference between left-wing and right-wing cry-babyism.

Get it through your heads people. Your "side" isn't innocent.
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Wow. GREAT POST! BOTH radical sides need to meet in the middle where progress can be achieved.

Having said that, I foster some liberal ideas as well as some conservative ideas and my head hasn't exploded........yet.
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#63
#63
IPorange said:
Okay. Which group due the legions of liberals known as "university of faculty" fall in, if it's "right on?"
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Have no clue how the real world works kinda people. Those who can do. Those who can't teach.
 
#64
#64
NEOCON said:
Have no clue how the real world works kinda people. Those who can do. Those who can't teach.
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Trite and quite wrong.

For the most part, the only segment of university faculty that ridiculous and overused saying could apply to would be the professional colleges (Business, Law, Medicine, etc.). However, for the most part, in the world of Humanities, Math, and Science (aside from Engineering), those who can, teach; those who can't, get MBAs, JDs, and MDs.
 
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JayVols said:
Wow. GREAT POST! BOTH radical sides need to meet in the middle where progress can be achieved.

Having said that, I foster some liberal ideas as well as some conservative ideas and my head hasn't exploded........yet.
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Sad thing is the only time the middle is achieved is when its that or lose power. In a lot of cases keeping a seat is put above doing whats better for the country.
 
#67
#67
NEOCON said:
Have no clue how the real world works kinda people. Those who can do. Those who can't teach.
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This elitist attitude is very disturbing and all too common. Disagree with public unions all you want. That's fine. However, thank teachers for equipping you with the tools to be successful. No such thing as a totally self-made man. Everyone has had help and education from some form of teacher. As long as this attitude is pervasive in our society, our education system will continue to degrade. No one will want to take a very difficult and thankless job that is one of the most critical to the survival of our nation.
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#68
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JayVols said:
This elitist attitude is very disturbing and all too common. Disagree with public unions all you want. That's fine. However, thank teachers for equipping you with the tools to be successful. No such thing as a totally self-made man. Everyone has had help and education from some form of teacher. As long as this attitude is pervasive in our society, our education system will continue to degrade. No one will want to take a very difficult and thankless job that is one of the most critical to the survival of our nation.
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yeah, God forbid anybody attend a private school that doesn't have to deal with a teachers' union. Those poor kids are really getting screwed.

In other words, a union doesn't make a teacher better.
 
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#69
MG1968 said:
yeah, God forbid anybody attend a private school that doesn't have to deal with a teachers' union. Those poor kids are really getting screwed.

In other words, a union doesn't make a teacher better.
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WTH? I said NOTHING in defense of public unions. I was defending TEACHERS of all ilk. You are seeing boogeymen that aren't there.

The OP didn't differentiate union/nonunion teachers either.
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therealUT said:
Trite and quite wrong.

For the most part, the only segment of university faculty that ridiculous and overused saying could apply to would be the professional colleges (Business, Law, Medicine, etc.). However, for the most part, in the world of Humanities, Math, and Science (aside from Engineering), those who can, teach; those who can't, get MBAs, JDs, and MDs.
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Makes no sense whatsoever. Weren't you the one bemoaning absurd generalities? Does it only apply to everyone else?
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#71
#71
I don't view an elementary teacher or middle school teacher or even to a certain degree a high school teacher the same as a Professor.

The first three normally love children. The good ones at least. They normally want to help develope a child and add to the great American cause. You normally don't see 3rd grade teachers giving their socialist slant on the state of the Union.

Professors on the other hand, over 70% in my opinion, are more about the job and less about the individual learning. They have an agenda and want to push it. I view them as lpeople who ( on a whole) have washed out in the real job force or were too scared to step out into the real work force and just kept learning and became faculty.They become little demi-gods that relish being able to control the fates of a student for that semester or quarter and relish the fact that they can inflict their views into the persons psyche. I once had a business professor who was a flat out socialist. He made no bones about it. Half the students, still young and impressionable bought his crap, the other half had to swallow the crap and just get through it.
 
#74
#74
NEOCON said:
I don't view an elementary teacher or middle school teacher or even to a certain degree a high school teacher the same as a Professor.

The first three normally love children. The good ones at least. They normally want to help develope a child and add to the great American cause. You normally don't see 3rd grade teachers giving their socialist slant on the state of the Union.

Professors on the other hand, over 70% in my opinion, are more about the job and less about the individual learning. They have an agenda and want to push it. I view them as lpeople who ( on a whole) have washed out in the real job force or were too scared to step out into the real work force and just kept learning and became faculty.They become little demi-gods that relish being able to control the fates of a student for that semester or quarter and relish the fact that they can inflict their views into the persons psyche. I once had a business professor who was a flat out socialist. He made no bones about it. Half the students, still young and impressionable bought his crap, the other half had to swallow the crap and just get through it.
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You remind me of a guy in my graduate program, who imagines elaborate conspiracies and communist fascist professors saturate the department and university. It's sad, because it is all in his head.
 
#75
#75
The problem is all inside your head
She said to me
The answer is easy if you
Take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free.
 
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