Lipscomb dismisses top 3 point shooter in D-I

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Daloth said:
He'll go to the league still. If you are elite at one thing, the NBA will find a spot for you, regardless of how much you screwed up in college.
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Chris Loften disagrees.:no: Well maybe that's only if you play at Tennessee, I think you are all right if you play in the state of Tennessee.:whistling:
 
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VOLatile said:
Many atheists are well versed in the Bible. Studies even show that atheists as a whole know the Bible better than Christians as a whole.
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very well could be true but an atheist wouldnt want their young child's mind being formed by Christian principles. There are plenty of private schools that are not religious based they could attend and still get the child a good education.
 
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Are there any C of C's out there these days that have a piano or organ as a part of the regular Sunday morning worship service?
 
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Jackson_Harris said:
Are there any C of C's out there these days that have a piano or organ as a part of the regular Sunday morning worship service?
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I dont believe so but there are some that are incorporating other instruments. Its not something that's widely publicized though. One of the more modern midsets is that many congregations recognize the new christian music of these days as a good alternative to many of the other genres that a bit more risque ie singing about drinking, cussing, etc... A very large church near my house has tvs all in the young people's wing with christian vids running all the time. The thought is its music and its not being used for worship.


Keep in mind that with COC there's not a 'central office' that dictates the direction the church goes. Each morphs in its own direction .
 
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GreveHaller said:
I dont believe so but there are some that are incorporating other instruments. Its not something that's widely publicized though. One of the more modern midsets is that many congregations recognize the new christian music of these days as a good alternative to many of the other genres that a bit more risque ie singing about drinking, cussing, etc... A very large church near my house has tvs all in the young people's wing with christian vids running all the time. The thought is its music and its not being used for worship.


Keep in mind that with COC there's not a 'central office' that dictates the direction the church goes. Each morphs in its own direction .
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Yes, that was what was really scary about the little church I grew up in...it was stuck in 1955.

San Diego...am I really going to hell for having an organ in my church?
 
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Jackson_Harris said:
Yes, that was what was really scary about the little church I grew up in...it was stuck in 1955.

San Diego...am I really going to hell for having an organ in my church?
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I'll give you my answer - I dont know.

Put it like this - I play an instrument (played in the POTSB back in the early 80s). In fact still play today in a big band/swing band. Love playing and have a great time doing so. Many of my fellow band members also play in their church band on Sundays and I've thought that too would be fun to do using a gift from God to praise him....

....except......

there's that pesky little thing about music in church. Do I think those people are doing something against God? Not at all. But that's not the point. Does God want us to worship him like that? Errrr. Dont know. I know he said to make melody in your heart but he didnt say bang a drum or toot a horn. In the end is it worth it to roll the dice on this? On that day when we're standing in front of him there's a chance he might tell us we all did well singing and praising him thru song and instruments. On the other hand he might say "folks, I said melody in you heart. Never said instruments". IMO, I'm covered either way. The risk is less.

I wont ever condemn someone for using instruments and I hope to heck they are right. Jealous too that my conscience wont let me do it. But that's just me. You have to make the decisions on your own not from what me or anyone else tells you is right or wrong.
 
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GreveHaller said:
I'll give you my answer - I dont know.

Put it like this - I play an instrument (played in the POTSB back in the early 80s). In fact still play today in a big band/swing band. Love playing and have a great time doing so. Many of my fellow band members also play in their church band on Sundays and I've thought that too would be fun to do using a gift from God to praise him....

....except......

there's that pesky little thing about music in church. Do I think those people are doing something against God? Not at all. But that's not the point. Does God want us to worship him like that? Errrr. Dont know. I know he said to make melody in your heart but he didnt say bang a drum or toot a horn. In the end is it worth it to roll the dice on this? On that day when we're standing in front of him there's a chance he might tell us we all did well singing and praising him thru song and instruments. On the other hand he might say "folks, I said melody in you heart. Never said instruments". IMO, I'm covered either way. The risk is less.

I wont ever condemn someone for using instruments and I hope to heck they are right. Jealous too that my conscience wont let me do it. But that's just me. You have to make the decisions on your own not from what me or anyone else tells you is right or wrong.
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So using that logic, shouldn't you also remove your mic and PA system from your church service? He never mentioned that those were ok.

But I do admire you for not judging others. The church I grew up in didn't even let us join with the other churches in the area for events. They had judged the others to be wrong.

Are there still those in the C of C who think they are the only ones going to heaven?
 
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I will never understand the thought that God wouldn't want people to worship him if they came to him through music. Like He wouldn't take a church drummer in Heaven? So you wouldn't want to push your chances of going to Paradise by playing drums? I doubt you think that, really.
Just my 2cents. Not trying to get in a religious debate, but I find various silly things like that in every religion, not just C o Christ.

I just don't think God cares about some of the things that various religions teach.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I will never understand the thought that God wouldn't want people to worship him if they came to him through music. Like He wouldn't take a church drummer in Heaven? So you wouldn't want to push your chances of going to Paradise by playing drums? I doubt you think that, really.
Just my 2cents. Not trying to get in a religious debate, but I find various silly things like that in every religion, not just C o Christ.

I just don't think God cares about some of the things that various religions teach.
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I hope you are exactly right. Problem is it isnt you call, my call, some preachers call, or even the Pope's call. Its the Big Guys call. All we can do is hope that what we are doing pleases him. Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt. We'll see one day.

JH - I've never been to any COC that thinks they're the only one going to heaven.
 
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GreveHaller said:
I hope you are exactly right. Problem is it isnt you call, my call, some preachers call, or even the Pope's call. Its the Big Guys call. All we can do is hope that what we are doing pleases him. Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt. We'll see one day.

JH - I've never been to any COC that thinks they're the only one going to heaven.
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Very well put, I completely agree with this line of thought. Whether musical instruments are acceptable or not, I choose to attend a congregation that does not use them but will not condemn someone who disagrees. Scripture can be interpreted many ways, I just choose to be as literal as possible and not worry about whether I'm doing something that may or may not be acceptable in His sight.
 
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mchandl7 said:
Not going to lie, I was shocked your family let you go off to that Godless Baptist College in Jefferson City.
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I originally chose Faulkner because it's coC and because of the baseball program. A coaching change that I didn't like occurred the summer after my freshman year and as a catcher, the opportunity to be closer to home and play for the best catching coach around led me to transfer to CNC.

My folks let me make my own choices in that regard, and if I had chosen to leave the coC for a different denomination or faith they would have accepted it (though they wouldn't have been thrilled, haha). I feel that going to a non coC-affiliated school actually strengthened my faith and belief that the coC is the closest to the 1st century Church based on Scripture.
 
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Psalm 150
New International Version (NIV)
Psalm 150

1 Praise the LORD.[a]
Praise God in his sanctuary;
praise him in his mighty heavens.
2 Praise him for his acts of power;
praise him for his surpassing greatness.
3 Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
4 praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
5 praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals.

6 Let everything that has breath praise the LORD.

Praise the LORD.
 
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GreveHaller said:
I'll give you my answer - I dont know.

Put it like this - I play an instrument (played in the POTSB back in the early 80s). In fact still play today in a big band/swing band. Love playing and have a great time doing so. Many of my fellow band members also play in their church band on Sundays and I've thought that too would be fun to do using a gift from God to praise him....

....except......

there's that pesky little thing about music in church. Do I think those people are doing something against God? Not at all. But that's not the point. Does God want us to worship him like that? Errrr. Dont know. I know he said to make melody in your heart but he didnt say bang a drum or toot a horn. In the end is it worth it to roll the dice on this? On that day when we're standing in front of him there's a chance he might tell us we all did well singing and praising him thru song and instruments. On the other hand he might say "folks, I said melody in you heart. Never said instruments". IMO, I'm covered either way. The risk is less.

I wont ever condemn someone for using instruments and I hope to heck they are right. Jealous too that my conscience wont let me do it. But that's just me. You have to make the decisions on your own not from what me or anyone else tells you is right or wrong.
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3 Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
4 praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
5 praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals.

Ps 150:3-5


edit: OK, nm. I clicked "reply" too soon.
 
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missourivol said:
Since this ha taken a COC and instrumental music in church path. I will bring this in here.

Chairs.wmv - YouTube
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^^And that's why there are so many different denominations.

The coC tries to replicate the worship methods of the 1st century church. As the Bible was written by multiple authors and translated in so many different ways and languages, it is near impossible to worship exactly as the 1st century church did. While I agree that He wants unity rather than a million denominations, He certainly does not like the way so many with a base Christian faith fight and bicker over these issues.

That is why I will engage in a discussion/debate/study with anyone about such issues, but if that person is not willing to see my side and critically think about it, I will not waste my energy by getting mad and fighting over it. That does not mean that if you don't agree with me that I will not talk or debate with you; I just don't want it to turn into a fight or screaming match (great job to all in this thread of remaining civil and having insightful, critical discussion :good!: ).

Members of the coC believe that when the day of judgement comes, we can be confident that we have done our best to correctly interpret and follow His commandments, and have not added to or subtracted from His Word.
 
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San Diego Vol said:
I'm C of C and I knew Spart was just joking. We catch a lot of flack for being strict but that was more so back in the 50s, etc. My whole family went to Lipscomb and they do have some pretty silly rules IMO. C of C has gotten much more liberal over the years, or at least I have. Definitely not a cult, but try to follow the bible to a T
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do you go to a coc in san Diego?
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The C of C church that I knew up in believed that the C of C were the only ones going to heaven. I am surprised that is no longer an issue. Hopefully, that was the older crowd.

How does the C of C view a little light alcohol use these days? An occasional beer...what have you...?

Thanks for the info. Sounds like things have moved to a much more moderate view over the last 25 years.
 
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